CHART: Economy Has Recovered All Private Sector Jobs Lost Since Obama Took Office

reply to post by snusfanatic


1) The Republicans screw up the economy.
2) Fed up with Republicans, Americans elect Democrats to fix the economy.
3) Republicans blame Democrats for not cleaning up the Republican mess quickly enough.
4) Democrats eventually fix the economy. Republicans ignore the recovery, and run on abortion, guns and gay marriage.
5) Americans forget how bad the economy was and who caused it. They elect Republicans again.

Repeat at step 1 ...

reply to post by Aliensun


Where did I say believed it?

All I was doing was showing an article that related to the upturn as seen on the graph.

It adds some validity if nothing else...

Originally posted by timetothink
It's called cooking the books....manipulating data to get the results you want.....people stopped looking for jobs and are now on unemployment for two years.


And I even missed the part that it was only 5000!

edit on 5-5-2012 by timetothink because: (no reason given)

Those mumbers include people that had to accept underpayed jobs and young professionals working in fast food chains. You are right, they are cooking the books. Also they probably considered the people with part time jobs.

I like folks that hide behind charts and numbers, but have a hard time facing reality.

I help manage a farm supply store that sells a lot of stuff to a lot of non- agricultural people.

Stuff like dog food. We have some of the most competitive prices on dog food and buying habits have shifted in the last 3 years. At one time people were buying a lot of the high protein and non filler dog foods which sold for a premium price. Now they have mostly switched to the mid level and low end priced dog foods. Basically switching from 44.99 bags to 24.99 bags. They don't have the extra money.

I look at our own set of charts reflecting sales at our store, our neighboring stores in our district and region... and they all say the same thing. Sales are down. We have sold $30,000.00 fewer mowers than we did compared to last year. They don't have the extra money.

The new mantra from Corporate is "manage payroll"... that means cut hours and no overtime. That means my part-time team members get 5-10 fewer hours per person. Last week, because sales were down, I cut about 50 hours from my team. Now they don't have the extra money.

The reason corporate is not willing to stick it out is they don't know what Obama and company are coming up with next...punitive tax increases, over regulation on growth and building and expansion, how the upcoming Obamacare will actually impact them...so they are sitting on the money... like all the other businesses. Plus all the proposed new rules for farmers from the EPA and Dept of Labor.really do impact our customers... farmers. Will hay dust really be considered pollution? Will the kids working on family farms be forced to quite? Yes, these proposals will be pulled back...but what if Obama is re-elected?

Fact of the matter is...people are hurting. They are buying what they need, but that is it. Further, we have seen a giant increase in customers starting to raise their own food...They don't have the extra money.

All of these things have come about the last couple of years... Obama has been there about 4 years now...if there is improvement... nobody sees it. About half of my customers are black and a goodly portion are disgusted with Obama and they will be glad when he is gone also...maybe they are racist and just don't know it.

In closing, there are charts showing Planet X is about to crash into the Earth... I am sure they are every bit as factual as the one showing an economic recovery.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


I was going to offer kudos, until I realized I knew better. Then I became slightly optimistic and decided that perhaps I'd been wrong and should look into it. Then I hit the source: ThinkProgress.org... an Obama re-election website. Being sceptical, I decided to look into the source of the data and the methodology employed to arrive at such a conclusion. My suspicions confirmed when none were offered.

Then I took a moment to think back to how the bigger unemployment number had been played by simply reducing the size of the "working" population to reduce the unemployed percentage. From there it was simple to surmise that this "Chart" is a load of crap and nothing more than re-election propaganda. The ultimate result being my sadness that so many morons will believe this and accept it as fact and vote for this fraud.

This country has certainly been reduced to its lowest common denominator; ignorance and stupidity.

reply to post by HangTheTraitors


title of thread,

Economy Has Recovered All Private Sector Jobs Lost Since Obama Took Office

fact: my employee's and myself worked in the private sector, and our job's have not been recovered.
working for some else, that is part time or minimum wage is not the same as owning your own business, or being able to pay someone well who is skilled at what they do. and by the way our business required us to be multi talented. that means more than one skill set.

SO the FACTS presented here are a "load of bs" just because you (out of MILLIONS of others) closed your shop??

fact: there are thousands if not millions of small business's that have closed. never to be recovered.
there again i say to you, going from a job that paid well to a job that is just above or right at the poverty level
is not recovery.

Maybe you should have tried harder.

fact: for your information i did. i went from drawing a pay check 4 times a month to 1 for 8 months, then i went from 1 to not drawing any thing for a year and a half, i was robbing peter to pay paul, lost everything that i had, now i still owe everybody, had to move back in with my folks during that time.and i never even applied for unemployment. i nor any body on both side of my family have drawn a single dime of unemployment. we take care of our own.

Dont blame Obama and the FACTS for your errors.

fact: i don't blame him, i blame everybody that is part of the government, from politicians to bureaucrats, that passed and interpret the laws allowing big business to pack up and move over seas. that allow them and foreign companies to import goods and sell them cheaper than U.S.goods with out having a import tax to make more of said goods more competive in the market place. i blame the greedy corporations, greedy unions that made it so they need to move to china, mexico, veitnam, thiland, or any other nation were they only pay pennies on the dollar verus 25, 35 40, or even 75 dollars a hour when you count the benefits. i blame the union members who think they deserve that 75 dollars that includes benefits, when all the know how to do is run one machine on the assembly line, well maybe they can run two. i blame the banks who it has been shown time and time again they they are just ripping people off. i blame the car manufacturers who needed a bail out. i blame the banks and real estate brokers who have inflated the cost of housing to unrealistic prices. but most of all i blame those who feel that a global economy is essential for the world to survive.

fact: if you notice i also answered your second post in my reply to try harder.

SIGH!

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by snusfanatic

 

1) The Republicans screw up the economy.
2) Fed up with Republicans, Americans elect Democrats to fix the economy.
3) Republicans blame Democrats for not cleaning up the Republican mess quickly enough.
4) Democrats eventually fix the economy. Republicans ignore the recovery, and run on abortion, guns and gay marriage.
5) Americans forget how bad the economy was and who caused it. They elect Republicans again.

Repeat at step 1 ...

The Republicans had nothing to do with the housing bubble, which was created by Democrats (specifically Clinton and Obama before he became president). They also had nothing to do with 9/11, which caused the economy to tank. Democrats have been in charge since 2006, so you can;t keep blaming the GOP for all the problems created by Democrats.

Your problem is watching too much MSM, which seems dedicated to keeping Democrats elected and Republicans out of office. It's also pretty hilarious how ATS members so willingly accept propaganda when it's pro-Democrats propaganda. This chart comes from a site that's pretty clearly biased in favor of Obama's re-election.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
CHART: Economy Has Recovered All Private Sector Jobs Lost Since Obama Took Office

As of April, there are now more private sector jobs in the United States than there were in January 2009, when President Obama took office. You read that right. We have now replaced all of the private sector jobs lost while Obama has been president. And that was no mean feat, given that over the course of 2009, the private sector shed about 4.2 million jobs.

Unfortunately, the news is not nearly so good when it comes to the public sector, where there are currently 607,000 fewer people working than there were when President Obama took office.

Saying that Obama ruined the economy is becoming a harder and harder sell each day.

But at what reduction of pay? It's one thing to say there are lots of jobs, and quite another to say those jobs can actually support a family. In six years I've seen the price of coffee go from $4 to $7 dollars a can. That's a 75% increase. I haven't received a 75% increase in my pay.

Jesus Christ. Even when its proven that Obama hasn't destroyed the country people still try to weasel their way out of accepting it.

I showed that the U6 was down too. It shows people who have fallen "off the radar" and who weren't included in the U3. Accept it or not, but those are facts.

I would also like to say that it is very sad to see a lot of you scramble for reasons to hate Obama. I expect better of people like wrabbit and beezer.

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
I would also like to say that it is very sad to see a lot of you scramble for reasons to hate Obama. I expect better of people like wrabbit and beezer.

Scamble for reasons? There are ample reasons. For me the main gripe against this president is how divisive he is. He's done nothing but divide this country along racial, religious, sexual and class lines. Not to mention how slavish and ridiculous our media has become in their mission to crusade for this president and his party. Going as far as to attack anyone in this country who doesn't support him as vile racists. By the way, what ever happened to that outrage over Gitmo? It's all good as long as Obama is doing it, right?

Maybe you're just to dismissive of all the president's negatives?

The perfidious, misdirecting nature of the left never ceases to amaze. The president doesn't create job or destroy jobs. What comes ou of congress is much more important than anything the WH does. Bush was pilloried by the left for bailouts bu the left applauds obama for the same thing. If you want to point out job growth then show the whole picture. Official unemployment had almost doubled under obama and that doesn't include the number of people who are unemployed and who hav dropped out of the job market and are no longer counted as unemployed. You also fail mention that Bush was saddled with a democrat congress while obama has a GOP congress. Dems always show the correlations that suit them and ignore the ones that refute them. The same thing goes for GDP. The numbers are poor but the underlying stats are even worse. GDP is an aggregate of all goods and services. Government spending skews it upward while adding debt to the economy. Bush's debt was bad but obama's far exceeds Bush's. Stop cherry picking the data and tell the whole story. Your guy has royally screwed this economy and the next 4 years will see an increase in the loss of civil liberties, growth of debt and the complete destruction of the US as we knew it. Obviously you don't care. You'll be quite happy seeing the US made into a 2d rate nation under the thumb of a fascist president.


reply to post by Blackmarketeer

Originally posted by jiggerj
But at what reduction of pay? It's one thing to say there are lots of jobs, and quite another to say those jobs can actually support a family. In six years I've seen the price of coffee go from $4 to $7 dollars a can. That's a 75% increase. I haven't received a 75% increase in my pay.

Not to mention 6 years ago
gas was $1.50 a gallon
now its around $4.00..
That alone will kill an econmy
and i have only seen gas keep
going up since obama took office..
Where did the policies help gas prices?

Originally posted by pacific_waters
The perfidious, misdirecting nature of the left never ceases to amaze. The president doesn't create job or destroy jobs

Don't you love how they spend months deflecting criticism by claiming the president doesn't have control over jobs, but then try and convince us all otherwise when they can spin news as positive?

And who could forget this? (besides the MSM)

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Not to mention 6 years ago
gas was $1.50 a gallon
now its around $4.00..
That alone will kill an econmy
and i have only seen gas keep
going up since obama took office..
Where did the policies help gas prices?

And what was the reporting like then?

Originally posted by PvtHudson

edit on 6-5-2012 by PvtHudson because: (no reason given)

Forgetting were suppose
to be optimistic about these
high gas prices, they are a good
thing.. Now getting BENT OVER that
same barrel of gas is a good thing..

This chart holds no water, its cannon fodder..

Only the most shrewed winger would hang onto
this chart as any type of proof*** the economy
is recoverying, really I WISH i could say it was..
WISH IT WAS...I would love to say thank you obama
for fixing this nation.. He has not gained that respect yet..

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


no one with half a brain believes that BS...they don't count those who's unemployment ran out after two years but still don't have a job.. they lie about inflation too, DC can't tell the truth about anything anymore.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


An Escher painting is more realistic than that chart.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


It's becoming harder to sell?! So this chart is the end all be all? I don't believe this chart for a second, because they already skew the unemployment numbers. How many times have they changed the math, or the formula used to calculate unemployment, to suit their needs. If all of the jobs have been recovered then how is it possible that the unemployment rate is still so high? Why isn't it back to where it was the day he took office? Even if all of these jobs have been recovered, people that were making $50,000 a year are now working for $13.00 and hour. Hardly a recovery.

Your source is thinkprogress.org? Next time pick an unbiased source, if that is even possible. Your source is the most left leaning, commie loving 503c in the nation, and is completely in the tank for Obama and every other progressive politician out there. I can show you charts that contradict yours from the Cato institute and the Heritage foundation, both ultra right organizations. The truth is in the world around us, and as I look around I see high unemployment, foreclosures, high gas prices, 5 trillion dollars in additional national debt, and more war. I see a President blaming banks for high student loans, when it is the college that sets the price, not the bank. You and the rest of the cancerous trash that support our Marxist in Chief WILL lose in the end. Even if you win this election you will lose in the end, because evil, and Obama epitomizes evil, never wins. (so did Bush, by the way... he is an evil SOB too) This has nothing to do with the R and D

I just want to say that while things still suck, they suck about the same amount as when Obama took office. Anyone who glorifies him or disses him for this partuicular news isn't being intellectually honest.

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
well that is a load of bs.
i had to close my shop, and me and my employees were out of work.
me and two others still haven't found jobs yet.

OH, how I wished this was true but I too have to call BS on this.We just had two stores that had to close. One was a general store that had been open for over 40 years and the ltehre was a lumber yard that has been open for 75 years. I do not see any HELP WANTED signs in fact I have seen a few NO HELP WANTED signs put up just to keep people from asking all the time.