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Originally posted by worldwatcher
reply to post by humphreysjim
to prove or disprove, science would have to test every religion, every known prayer, every ritual ever known to man to figure that one out imo. Maybe God has silly rules before he/she answers prayers, maybe you had to take a shower, wear white and say the prayer X amount of times before he listens???
Originally posted by KaelemJames
reply to post by humphreysjim
As a believer in our Creator, i support science, too.
To know under these many scientific tests that has been done with prayer, how many of these people had the faith that it will be answered, actually had the faith that it HAS been answered.
I have said many prayers and most times i found nothing to be answered, but my faith was weak and doubt surrounded me. If one asks and believe it is, it is answered.
It is not something i can prove to science as i cannot prove my faith. It is spiritual, not of flesh.
But, i am not good in debates, so i will be wiped off this debate in one go. Still, i know that i am being answered when i truly am in a deep meditative state with our Creator.
When i talk to God they call it prayer, when He talks back they say i am crazy. So be it.
Originally posted by humphreysjim
Originally posted by worldwatcher
reply to post by humphreysjim
to prove or disprove, science would have to test every religion, every known prayer, every ritual ever known to man to figure that one out imo. Maybe God has silly rules before he/she answers prayers, maybe you had to take a shower, wear white and say the prayer X amount of times before he listens???
True, but why give such outlandish ideas more respect than say, leprechauns? If I came on here and said leprechauns were not real, and scientific tests which should be able to detect them showed they were not present, would you dictate to me that we just need more and better tests, and in the mean time we should treat leprechaun belief as a reasonable, and sane thing? Maybe teach the existence of leprechauns to our children, and open churches of worship?
Hey, maybe humans can fly unaided, and all we need to do is say the right mantra to ourselves as we jump from a window. The possibilities are endless when you reason like a fool.
How about we just test, say, Christianity, and Islam? Quite simple, the Bible tells us God answers prayers if we ask sincerely. So, why when we test that notion and show it false, do we still treat the Bible as a book of facts, and its God as a reality? This is insanity, we need to grow up.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by humphreysjim
I understand, but there are so many prayers that have been answered, my brother has brain cancer and lung cancer, about three months ago I was called to say my goodbyes,
He was hallucinating, and bedridden, now he is alert and functioning,and going to church twice a week, what can I tell you?
However, what is faith that can move mountains, but is as small as a mustard seed?
Why are some answered and some not?
I don't know, perhaps all part of some divinely inspired plan, why am I in horrible pain everyday, I don't know, but I cannot imagine life with out prayer.
Here's hoping you experience it some day.
GB
It doesn't have to be some long drawn out prayer, sometimes all you need is a hug.
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Originally posted by smyleegrl
I've never heard the voice of God. I have no idea if He exists or if He answers prayers.
I do know that sometimes, when I pour my heart out in prayer....I feel peace. It could just be the peace of finally acknowledging my feelings,,,,or maybe its an answered prayer.
I would imagine, if God exists, He is so far out of our understanding that an answered prayer might be completely unrecognizable.
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Just my two cents worth.
Originally posted by Zeer0
Come on you people dont really think prayer works? Dont you think the starving kids in Africa pray? Dont you think the Jews killed in the Holocaust prayed? Why would God ignore the prayers of people in need to focus on answering your prayers? Thats faulty logic in of its self.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
God personally answer my prayers??? probably NOT, I think he/she has way too much to do than bother with than little ole me, but God's agents or the universe in general has definitely answered my prayers. Things don't happen immediately, I think God and his minions works on a very different schedule, so I'll pray for something, think that my prayers went unanswered and then months and sometimes even years later, my prayers get fulfilled.. now that I think about it, the answer should be Yes because even if he/she didn't personally answer my prayers they gave the authorization to whatever forces did
Originally posted by tyranny22Try being a bit more positive in your attitude. Do good. And believe me ... you'll get what you deserve.
Originally posted by jazz10
Yes.
There is a change coming and soon. Certain people are trying to run along side what is written by orchestrating events to fool masses. There is i believe a scheme and its being played out now.
The thing is the people that we including me have been blaming may not be where the buck stops. We are all humans and someone somewhere is playing a very dangerous game indeed that involves countless lives of unsuspecting people.
Truth is divided into religions to preserve the truth.
We however are being fooled on a massive scale. Anti eastern propaganda is not against the people but rather trying to rid the earth of their part of truth. Leaving one piece. I am sorry if i am speaking in riddles here.
Imagine a pie chart.
Seperate that into the religions we have today. What have you got? The opposite of all eggs in one basket. On the flip side imagine there was only ever one religion, would we even be aware of God now if Hitler succeeded?
I have a lot to say and just wanted to share that small piece with you. I will be posting my thoughts on my blog unless asked to do so here.
911 was about shifting conciousness of the masses to change their view of middle eastern countries, particularly those that followed the other part of religion.
Religion itself isnt corrupt, its those that are trying to rule the world that is mocking God.
Alias? AKA?
Are you only known by one name?
Me, i am known as Lee,the name i was born with
Jazz10,my user name here on ATS
Dad, to my children,
Doba, to my friends
I am also son and brother. Yet we argue about whose name is right regarding God and argue over whose slice of truth is better.
Hopefully you will understand what i am getting at here.
All i know is that this year, Satan and his system of things will come to an end. It will be like someone turning the light on.
End of the world? No. Thats what they want you to think. They want you to believe the fear as its what they thrive off. They thrive off fear, fear is what gives them leverage. End of the world literally?NO.
I believe its "End of the world as we know it". No more wars, poverty, famine, illness, divisions. No more divisions through color, class, language and last but not least RELIGION.
I AM ALL RELIGIONS. I FOLLOW AND BELIEVE ALL RELIGIONS AND I BELIEVE THAT THE DAY ALL RELIGIONS PUT ASIDE THEIR DIFFERENCES AND COME TOGETHER AS ONE THE MASTERPIECE WILL BE ALL TO CLEAR. Until that day..........we need to learn that we are all as important as each other.
In that case, the word "prayer" needs to be redefined in both religious and semantic senses.