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Originally posted by Zeer0
What makes your kids so special?
Its as if, everything is infinite fractals, but we're soul shards of our greater self in turn of a Greater Soul, to that Unification, or the Love connecting us all.
God only seems to answers prayer requests for things that could have come to pass anyway,
People forget that prayer must be coupled with faith.
Originally posted by humphreysjim
Originally posted by worldwatcher
perhaps it's the method of praying or whom you pray to that makes the difference in these scientific test???
In all good science if the method is wrong, we change it, and test again.
What method do you suggest the scientists use for their next test? Or do you think these tests will always fail, even though prayer works? Why would that be so? Would God deliberately try to deceive us or to keep us from the truth?
When a belief stubbornly refuses to validate itself no matter how we put it to the test, we should consider rethinking that belief. And if a belief cannot be validated via a test of any kind, we have to wonder again, how the focus of that belief is distinguishable from something non-existent.
I could choose to believe that magical fairies dictate the way my coin falls when I toss it, but to believe such a crazy thing without being able to put the existence of those fairies to the test themselves, that's just absurd.edit on 4-5-2012 by humphreysjim because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by humphreysjim
God only seems to answers prayer requests for things that could have come to pass anyway,
Like my back being healed? Or the man Damon Thompson raised from the dead at a wedding reception? People forget that prayer must be coupled with faith. And not the Hellenistic version of faith which is basically wishing upon a star, but the Biblical model of faith.
Originally posted by primus2012
Originally posted by humphreysjim
Originally posted by worldwatcher
perhaps it's the method of praying or whom you pray to that makes the difference in these scientific test???
In all good science if the method is wrong, we change it, and test again.
What method do you suggest the scientists use for their next test? Or do you think these tests will always fail, even though prayer works? Why would that be so? Would God deliberately try to deceive us or to keep us from the truth?
When a belief stubbornly refuses to validate itself no matter how we put it to the test, we should consider rethinking that belief. And if a belief cannot be validated via a test of any kind, we have to wonder again, how the focus of that belief is distinguishable from something non-existent.
I could choose to believe that magical fairies dictate the way my coin falls when I toss it, but to believe such a crazy thing without being able to put the existence of those fairies to the test themselves, that's just absurd.edit on 4-5-2012 by humphreysjim because: (no reason given)
Religious folk do not require proof of their God. It is not mere belief that their God exists, it is faith.
Faith is the key to deity-based religion.
It is not mere belief that their God exists, it is faith.
Faith is the key to deity-based religion.
Originally posted by LastProphet527
Has God ever answered just answered 1prayer in your entire life, in which you can actually say it was the good lord that answered it?
Originally posted by LastProphet527
So, what has this…conjured pretend God ever done for you ,besides throw you in a big pot of sin and wish you well on your journey in life in the flesh of rules that will always be broken.
Originally posted by LastProphet527
What God are you really praying to?
Originally posted by dthwraith
reply to post by LastProphet527
YES! My mother had lung cancer, and one day it just vanished. If thats not God answering a prayer I don't know what is!!
Originally posted by BrianOrion
I would say that God has answered my prayers on many occasions...
This thread, by definition, is quite interesting...
I live in the UK and there was an incident in a football (Soccer) match recently. On 17th March 2012, Fabrice Muamba (a Bolton Wanderer's player) suffered a cardiac arrest and collapsed during the first half of an FA Cup quarter-final match between Bolton and Tottenham Hotspur at White Hart Lane. After receiving lengthy attention on the pitch from medical personnel including a consultant cardiologist who was at the game as a fan, Muamba was taken to the specialist coronary care unit at the London Chest Hospital. Bolton's club doctor later confirmed that Muamba had received numerous defibrillator shocks both on the pitch and in the ambulance, but his heart had stopped for 78 minutes. The player was initially kept under anesthetic in intensive care.
While Mwamba was receiving defibrillator shocks, an eerie silence descended upon the crowd. People were visibly shaken and many were crying. Then, from the Bolton fans came a chant of "Fabrice Mwamba!!!" which went on for some 5 minutes or so. There was an appeal to "Pray for Mwamba" and thousands, if not millions of people worldwide prayed for him...
Two weeks after the incident, a photograph was released of Muamba sitting up in his hospital bed and smiling. On 16th April, he was discharged from hospital. Muamba attended Bolton's home match against Tottenham Hotspur on 2nd May, where he expressed his gratitude for the support he had received.
Some people said this was a miracle and an example of prayer in action... I would agree... but others would say it was the efforts of the medical staff alone that brought him back...
My question is hyperthetical... if YOU were this man, would you believe in prayer?