State officials shut down shrimping in Gulf amid scientists finding deformities and ‘horrifying cr

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You might want to review this partial list of other products made with petroleum before attacking anyone else.

www.ranken-energy.com...

Vitamin capsules(you take vitamins?)

fishing rods (are you a prepper with lots of stuff in your arsenal for survival after TSHTF?)

CD player(do you love music?)

Shampoo(only the most expensive natural stuff for you maybe?)

Soft Contact lenses(well who would give up seeing properly?)

wanna mess with the oil industry?

EVERYBODY BUY AN ELECTRIC CAR

Originally posted by roshambo
wanna mess with the oil industry?

EVERYBODY BUY AN ELECTRIC CAR

Oh yes, that's so sensible...right after Obama causes electric prices to "necessarily skyrocket". Good plan.

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Yes, the Green President handled everything so nicely. I guess it would have been so much worse under a Republican??? Oh wait, didn't the Prez sell off all his BP Oil stock? Oh yes he did...

Why did the Green President's EPA approve Corexit as the cleanup medium?

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
When the EPA told BP to stop dumping the corexit, BP told them no and kept right on doing it.

So the government bowed out and let BP do what it wanted. Yet if you or I were to dump a quart of motor oil in a storm drain, we would be fined big money and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The whole time this disaster was happening, my husband had the live cam showing the blown well on his computer, and he stated that they were handling it all wrong from the beginning, and the way they kept playing with different caps and such was an obvious failure. My husband's family has been dealing with oil since the 1940s when his family drilled some successful wells in west Texas, so he understands oil and wells.

He feels it was done on purpose, to sabotage the Gulf, and I have to agree with him. By allowing the oil to flow unchecked, and then dumping a crap-ton of corexit into the waters, BP effectively killed the shrimping and seafood industry in the area.

Once it is deemed unfit for human consumption, the oil companies can drill, baby, drill, without any more worries about some pesky family shrimping business suing. It will be a dead zone, so the government cannot deny permits for deep-water drilling for fear of damaging the environment, because it's already destroyed.

Diabolical, evil, and totally on purpose.

Shouldn't the entire fishing industry be able to file a class action suit against bp for all the money they would have made in the next 10 years or so as damages?

I found a PDF which contains the letter BP sent to the US regarding their choice of Corexit for clean up. It is interesting to note that the UK had banned Corexit based on its action on rocky shores as opposed to sandy shores. I'm not sure what the difference is, but that is stated reason for UK to ban it. It is stated to have a heavier impact on rocky shores.

The letter also states that Corexit does not break down to a toxic substance called NP which causes disruption of endocrine systems.

I am not stating any type of personal approval, just a notation of their point of view.

www.epa.gov...

Does the op have another source? I live close to the gulf and have not seen this anywhere else.

Originally posted by roshambo
wanna mess with the oil industry?

EVERYBODY BUY AN ELECTRIC CAR

Yeah, but where does the electricity come from? Oil, a cheap fuel. Think a few steps more.

I'm not shocked at all. There are big plans for The Gulf and the states around it. Did you know Louisiana has a mulit-billion dollar depopulation plan? It's to buy out property owners.

It's why I think FEMA left so many people out to dry after Katrina. The response to the BP event was just another part of that. Louisiana is going to be turned into an oil mavens paradise. No rules, no pesky citizens and lots of money to be made.

I had some fried shrimp a few days ago. I live around the area, so figure it came from the Gulf, although there are crawfish and shrimp and rice fields around here too. Just to see what I would be told, I asked whether they had "come from out of state or the Gulf." (I could have worded that better, knowing she would probably say the Gulf to try to support LA markets, but anyway...) She said the Gulf, so I asked what part, and she said she didn't know. I told her a lot of deformed seafood has been found, shrimp missing eyes for instance. She said they didn't come from the affected areas.

Oh, that's funny, because I thought you just told me you didn't know the specific part they came from...

I live on the Gulf Coast and have all my life. I have a friend high up in a disaster response company. His company pulled a very large contract to help with the oil clean up along the beaches and in the open ocean. He has told me personally that his company which handled a very large amount of clean up only actually "removed" about 10% of the oil they encountered. Most of the oil actually picked up and removed was the oil that reached the beach. They were instructed to clean 6-8 inches below the sand surface and not to go any deeper. There were police and BP officials on hand to make sure they didn't dig deeper than 8 inches. This rule was also enforced on the general public.If your child was at the beach during the spill and building a sand castle they would have gotten in trouble. There were actually law enforcement on the beach stopping the public from digging so they couldn't see the oil below the sand.

This is not the worse part. 90% of the oil they encountered on the open ocean were soaked up with fiber mats and then sunk per BP instructions. In reality they only removed about 10% of the total oil spilled. At least this was the case with the company he worked for. Like I said they were responsible for a very large area of clean up. He told me they never removed any of the mats and that they are sunk on the ocean floor. Exactly where the shrimp live. This is a very good friend and he is a very honest person. I believe everything her told me and I have actually seen a sunken mat myself while fishing a popular ridge in the Gulf.

This is very sad..

On another note I have friend who works at Auburn lab and they developed a natural fiber that absorbed the oil. This fiber was amazing. You could put it in a bucket of water and oil and the fiber would only absorb the oil. It would wick the water away like a ducks back but would soak up the oil. He also developed a method to extract the oil, clean it and allow BP to reclaim the spilled oil. I saw it work with my own two eyes and it floored me. He took this idea to BP and the Coast Guard in an attempt to help with the spill. Even though his invention was the best for recovery of the oil and the ability for BP to retain the lost oil they never called him back. I later found from my friends involved in the clean up that BP had no desire to recover the oil. They only wanted to sink it and get it off the surface.

It was similar to this product except it had the ability to remove the absorbed oil, clean it and re use it.

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While I understand your point and most definitely understand where you're coming from money wise, I am not for gm foods and I'm not a fan of Monsanto. Even if the foods didn't cause harm, they've been linked to too many things I don't care for - unfair wage claims and treatment of employees, etc.

I do have a hard time believing that altering the very DNA of a food is a good thing, but I don't know all the science behind it so I can't say for sure.

What I do know is I don't particularly trust the same people who produce/ed Agent Orange, DDT, bovine growth hormone, and plastics to mess with my food supply.

I also switched my diet up about 8 months ago. I've been eating organic and natural labeled products as much as I can (and afford) and I have given up sodas, etc. I personally feel better. I don't know if that's an indication that eating that way for extended periods can make you sick, but I know I don't want to go back.

I intend to plant a garden now that spring has sprung, so I can save money shopping for organic food.


But, on topic to the OP's post - This thread just makes me shake my head. Especially the line in your ex-content "I applaud the courageous move by state officials to put consumer safety first." Yeah, I'm glad it only took them 2 years to consider our safety. How thoughtful.

Ever since this Deepwater Horizons disaster happened, I've just felt like we are living on borrowed time. I don't know if we can survive the damage caused here in the long term...

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
The problem is that your alternatives suck.

You can get farm raised shrimp, which are soaked in pesticides and anti-biotics, which are routinely sold at supermarkets, or you can buy free range non-gulf/non-pacific shrimp which will be rediculously expensive.

At the HEB that I go to, they have 3 bins of shrimps in the seafood area, there is the brown shrimp, the sign says "product of Indonesia" and the white/pink shrimp that comes from the gulf.
I always buy the Indonesian shrimp, Ive always liked it better anyway.

It's about time!

I live on the east coast of Florida and I haven't really eaten seafood since. I had Mahi twice but it wasn't from the Gulf.

I knew that the seafood coming out of there would be bad. How can all that oil spill into the GOM and not affect the life that is in that body of waterI don't know why people didn't see this before. It's like having to wait for something bad before they do anything to prevent it. Sometimes it just takes common sense.

I posted this to my FB because many of my friends said I was paranoid for not eating seafood that came from there. Well now they can see I wasn't

This is really sad for the GOM and the people whose jobs are now gone. The Gulf was damaged because of greed and money. I wish they would stop drilling in the oceans period.

I find this particularly interesting since I live in New Orleans and know many people who fish for a living. They are continuing to fish, there is plenty of healthy shrimp in the seafood markets, and no one on the coast has reported this. In other words, this is complete BS propaganda.
Look folks, the spill was bad and will have some lasting affects, but this alarmism to the point of complete fabrication is getting ridiculous.

Originally posted by pierregustavetoutant
I find this particularly interesting since I live in New Orleans and know many people who fish for a living. They are continuing to fish, there is plenty of healthy shrimp in the seafood markets, and no one on the coast has reported this. In other words, this is complete BS propaganda.
Look folks, the spill was bad and will have some lasting affects, but this alarmism to the point of complete fabrication is getting ridiculous.

I find it very interesting myself since I am a recreation fisherman and have caught many fish with oil in them. Some have oil in the meat and some have strange lesions on them .I am not here to fear monger, only to tell what I have personally experienced. I'm not saying every fish I catch has oil on or in them, all I am saying is I am catching some.....one is enough for me IMO.

Originally posted by TheMindWar
And people wonder why us truthers and conspiracy dudes get pis**ed off with these people. They lie so damn much as you can see from the link below.

This is terrorism. This was a purposely released biological/chemical attack, its no different than if AL CIA-DA did it themselves!

FDA States Gulf Food Safe To Eat

They are damn criminals that should be charged with some of the worst crimes. This is no different than a terrorist biological and chemical attack.

Tell me about it! They've been telling people the food is safe to eat and the majority of people believed the FDA. Just a matter of time before some of us start growing tails or some other mutated body parts. This is insane

It's not like the FDA (Federal Death Authority as I refer to them) should ever be trusted! They weren't put in place to protect the public...they were put in place to protect the corporations. Their entire history just wreaks with corruption. Every since the FDA changed their name from the Division of Chemistry to the Bureau of Chemistry in 1901 to The Food, Drug, and Insecticide Administration in July 1927 to.....

Oh heck, it's to much crap to follow, just go check out some of their corrupt beginnings:

FDA's Origins & Function
Harvey Washington Wiley
FDA

The FDA is one of the most incredibly corrupted, dishonest and greedy agencies in existence if not the most corrupt IMVHO. Our protection and/or safety by these lying ass bastards is just a disguise they wear. They could careless about any of us!



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Originally posted by pierregustavetoutant
I find this particularly interesting since I live in New Orleans and know many people who fish for a living. They are continuing to fish, there is plenty of healthy shrimp in the seafood markets, and no one on the coast has reported this. In other words, this is complete BS propaganda.
Look folks, the spill was bad and will have some lasting affects, but this alarmism to the point of complete fabrication is getting ridiculous.

It is important to hear both sides, and we are trying to do that by getting the bad news out. Most people have not heard of the "bad side" because they choose to live in la-la land. On the other hand, here on this site, we need to hear that there is good shrimp out there. Then comes the question of, well, how do you know the condition of what you're being sold if you can't see the entire product? You can't. Even if the shrimp look healthy, are they?

Heck if I know, just let me eat... If I tried to steer clear of 100% of problem foods, I'd die of starvation. I think our bodies will do well against most of it, and worrying over everything is bound to cause the same problems you try to avoid in the first place.

In the past century.. america has gotten worse and worse ... sad country indeeed when one looks at it with open eyes. From getting into every war they possibly can, dominating all things with a tax entailed, raping their own people of wealth and health .. its sad. Being canadian, im not too comfortable about this country either, if anything happens with American, Canada will fall too.. they bomb, savage, pilgrim and rape a country like Pakaistan, and Canada follows on its leash and plays "peacekeepers". The past century has been terrible for the western-north continent .. but in the past decade we have to f**k with Mother Nature :O The oil spill was one of the saddest moments on Earth in modern history, all for $$ .. so a few men can stay rich and become richer then they already were While Earth, animals, food, health and human beings suffer for those greedy ones .. Its a sick world when we keep following those with the big dollars. Wouldnt it be nice if the people took control of their own World and Lives ?