State officials shut down shrimping in Gulf amid scientists finding deformities and ‘horrifying cr

In my area BP has been running tourism ads about how the gulf is thriving...i get sick every time i hear it, knowing what those assholes did to our country and all the people, as well as the animals that depend on the G.O.M

# BP

Take away the fish, take away the crops, make it illegal to grow and supply your own, well it looks like they are well on their way to the big food takeover, if you want to eat, you will have to buy it from THE MAN. I am now starting to believe that they are serious about the depopulation program, soon, when all of the markets start to crash around us, if you don't have the mark ( or chip ) you won't be allowed to buy any food. It's a good job the Aliens will be arriving soon to " Help " that is if the world does not end in December. It is a classic case of misdirection, we are watching their left hand waving, whilst they are stabbing us with their right.

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You're right, but the depopulation is necessary. It is inevitable. The issue is one of efficiency. How to you control the demise of 60-70% of the world population? The developing nations are not so much of an issue. They will be left to self-destruct to sustainable levels. The developed countries face more of an issue. Hence, the need to control all food, to know who is who. To mark the possible agitators right up front.

People tend to think of the police state as an end in itself. It isn't, it is a means to an end. The means to control a volatile population during the demise of civilisation.

I wonder if they are shipping this stuff out to the world? Or are they going to start now that the home landers won't be buying it.

Where is in the hell were they.. state officials at the start of this back in April,2010 when BP had a presume handle on all of this?

Each one of these thread spoke on the obvious outcome... We already knew it.

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Add to this, its clear why very little is said regarding Japan..
Until its to late... Well really, it already is. What makes this twice as worse,,,
it's both in the air and water!

Not looking good right from the start.

Jesse

Originally posted by RawkMan
reply to post by Qwenn

 

You're right, but the depopulation is necessary. It is inevitable. The issue is one of efficiency. How to you control the demise of 60-70% of the world population? The developing nations are not so much of an issue. They will be left to self-destruct to sustainable levels. The developed countries face more of an issue. Hence, the need to control all food, to know who is who. To mark the possible agitators right up front.

People tend to think of the police state as an end in itself. It isn't, it is a means to an end. The means to control a volatile population during the demise of civilisation.

Depopulation is not necessary. Just because the elites (who lie to us constantly even when the truth sounds better) says that there is a population problem that's only because it is......FOR THEM. Too many people for them to rule and still have an upper hand. If it were not for the fact that they hoard all of the resources and food, and then destroy the remaining foods we have left (Monsanto) ...there would be no problem with resources or food. Its the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and the Chase and Cheneys and Clintons that are the ones that there are too many of in this world. One of each is way too many for this earth to handle. Each one of these members of the families listed above are weapons of mass destruction in their own personal right and the world has to pay for their greediness and gluttony. As a whole though, without the supposed elites (although it doesn't take an elite to destroy, seems a bit generous of a title for me but I digress) the world would be just fine and we would have MORE than enough.

Yuo know it seems to me that BP used this Corex or whatever stuff to make the crude sink to the sea floor. Well gravity, surface tension and the propensity of crude to stay in one large mass. This mass would flow into the lowest possible topographical underwater location. Over several years or maybe a decade a crust of sand and organic life decay would seal this massive reservoir of crude into a contained envelope as it were. Then with minimal machinery it could be sucked up off the floor and captured to be sold again as crude oil. Meanwhile the Gulf suffers the consequences of this 'storage'. Of course we should not be eating the sea life from a contaminated Gulf. But I'm pretty sure with currents, there is likely an area that is not contaminated or subject to the toxins and deformaties. this area could still be in use if it was shown no contamination was present. But I fear the whole of the Gulf is in one way or another beyond hope.

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Plotus, you and the many that have shared their insights are spot on all of this..

While the Officails continue to wonder why the mass die of that has occured around the world..
Most recently, 800+ Dolpins of the coast of Puru.. They have to eat the food source their depended on,
Their not aware it's toxic. We do.

What I regret..
Nature is outwardly tell us... Your killing us in your ways of this world.

Jesse

all the sadden and heartbroken people who are upset about BP who drive cars on gasoline, need to look in the mirror and check themselves, as I blame the consumer, just as much as the supplier, as there would be lot less drilling, if we all stopped buying gasoline... so next time you are at the pump, think about what you have done to our planet by your dependency on petro, stop blaming BP and anyone else, as you are to blame just as much, imho...

Change is about the inevitable, not saying electric cars are the best solution, however if you have two working legs, and even if they are not that good at working anymore or missing them or one or part, riding a bicycle, walking or strolling, etc., get your there without destroying us all and supporting the ones who do not care about what happens, other than their profits.

So get the # out of your cars and stop pumping the #.

Originally posted by Phenomium

Originally posted by RawkMan
reply to post by Qwenn

 

You're right, but the depopulation is necessary. It is inevitable. The issue is one of efficiency. How to you control the demise of 60-70% of the world population? The developing nations are not so much of an issue. They will be left to self-destruct to sustainable levels. The developed countries face more of an issue. Hence, the need to control all food, to know who is who. To mark the possible agitators right up front.

People tend to think of the police state as an end in itself. It isn't, it is a means to an end. The means to control a volatile population during the demise of civilisation.

Depopulation is not necessary. Just because the elites (who lie to us constantly even when the truth sounds better) says that there is a population problem that's only because it is......FOR THEM. Too many people for them to rule and still have an upper hand. If it were not for the fact that they hoard all of the resources and food, and then destroy the remaining foods we have left (Monsanto) ...there would be no problem with resources or food. Its the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and the Chase and Cheneys and Clintons that are the ones that there are too many of in this world. One of each is way too many for this earth to handle. Each one of these members of the families listed above are weapons of mass destruction in their own personal right and the world has to pay for their greediness and gluttony. As a whole though, without the supposed elites (although it doesn't take an elite to destroy, seems a bit generous of a title for me but I digress) the world would be just fine and we would have MORE than enough.

I totally agree with you that this is another one of those many untrue problem/solution scenarios which they constantly force feed us. Another way of saying that feeding a doomed village is a total waste of food and that " what would you rather have, a dying person eating YOUR food, if they eat it, they are stopping YOU from eating it, well one day that doomed villiage will be US, all of us and they will be deciding which one of us gets the food. I am damned sure that none of it will be coming my way as I am old, a loudmouth when it comes to dishonesty, I question things which I am told and above all, I would always find someone more worthy of my food, than myself. They won't tolerate people who have nothing to lose !

Would it not be ironic if the ruling elite were really the advance foot troops of an Alien invasion, where they were not only Terraforming the Earth for the invasion force to comfortably use, whilst slowly wiping out the Earth's population to a managable minimum. At least it would make it more comprehendable as a motivating factor, if it is only for the aquisition of money and power, well that seems so shallow and unfulfilling, your'e only as rich and as powerful as others allow you to be, so they can never win their own game, what a smack in the face for them !

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
When the EPA told BP to stop dumping the corexit, BP told them no and kept right on doing it.

So the government bowed out and let BP do what it wanted. Yet if you or I were to dump a quart of motor oil in a storm drain, we would be fined big money and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The whole time this disaster was happening, my husband had the live cam showing the blown well on his computer, and he stated that they were handling it all wrong from the beginning, and the way they kept playing with different caps and such was an obvious failure. My husband's family has been dealing with oil since the 1940s when his family drilled some successful wells in west Texas, so he understands oil and wells.

He feels it was done on purpose, to sabotage the Gulf, and I have to agree with him. By allowing the oil to flow unchecked, and then dumping a crap-ton of corexit into the waters, BP effectively killed the shrimping and seafood industry in the area.

Once it is deemed unfit for human consumption, the oil companies can drill, baby, drill, without any more worries about some pesky family shrimping business suing. It will be a dead zone, so the government cannot deny permits for deep-water drilling for fear of damaging the environment, because it's already destroyed.

Diabolical, evil, and totally on purpose.

This is a damn interesting theory actually FissionSurplus. I always had suspicions around this whole event, though could never actually figure out exactly 'Why' someone/thing/group would knowingly, wantonly or intentionally sabotage their own operation in such a spectacular manner...

... and yours (or your husband's) theory rings the truest and most logical that I've heard or considered to date. I think you're on the right track... unfortunately... horrifically... criminally.

All the pollution in the Gulf of Mexico seems to have been attributed to BP, presumably because the dollar signs are in neon it’s easy.

In fact, the Gulf has been polluted for decades by US industry flowing out along the coast from rivers like the Mississippi. In fact, the dead zone caused by agricultural and industrial pollution has been long in existence in the Gulf

BP is just an excuse. The US people need to be a bit more intelligent about this and try to remedy the underlying problems rather than blaming all on one spill, because if this happens then they will never sort out the polluted Gulf and the systematic polluting of the Gulf will continue. The real culprits will get away with, but I suppose many will be enriched in the process.

Regards

So how much did the government got payed by BP ? .. Looks like we are heading to another pandemic situation.

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One question, how will we roll HUGE distances, or in case of a terrorist attack or something, where we need to get out of the city quickly, what will we do? Think abit, even tho it's a great idea .

I think the executives at BP should hold a seafood festival on the gulf coast to prove how safe it is, and prove it by consuming the deformed seafood. That would go a lot farther than the propaganda media barrage of "come on down to the gulf coast". It could be a pay per view event, and the proceeds could go to help the shrimpers and fishermen. Just an idea.

Originally posted by olliemc84

Originally posted by SkipperJohn
looks like you left everyone speechless on this one. I am glad the local states are doing this as the government is standing back... didn't BP just settle law suits the other day? and now after they are in the clear they do this? poor shrimping industry. .

Poor shrimping industry? Try poor everyone that has lived and sustained themselves with the Gulf. Its not just the shrimping industry.

I believe BP settled with the collective group of business people that are now devastated by the spill and will more than likely never be able to do what their families have done for generations. Their back yards have been ruined. And yet BP still exists.

When will we wake up and tell America enough is enough?

But then again, what can we do??

Vote?

pfft....I want to move to Denmark.

edit on 27-4-2012 by olliemc84 because: (no reason given)

It may end up like the same situation after Vietnam when the government brought in refugees from Vietnam and set them up to fish ... hell the locals couldn't compete against a person who literally had everything given to them debt free while the Americans were stradled with debt to run their business..

What happened?

the shrimpers and fisherman started running to Columbia for loads of contraband...

reply to post by FissionSurplus

I'm with you on that. Big mining corporations do the same thing. Here in the Upper Peninsula corporations were created to take all the trees off the land to make pellets for a ECO-friendly alternative to coal. Trees soak up carbon dioxide, how can that be ECO-friendly. After all the trees disappear they won't come back because they are taking all the branches. After that there will be no problems with tearing up the land to build mines. These plans are way more complex than most people think. Regular people can't foresee the long range plans of these companies. I agree with the concept you portray fully.

I am not paranoid, I am aware. I think mankind is soon going to discover that all the wealth and metals in the world won't do him good if there is no food or water. What are the wealthy going to do if there aren't any suckers around to sell things to. Why would any good person help an individual who caused the destruction of our foodchain either by physically doing it or ignorance. Cutting a few tree to heat your home is acceptable but deforesting an area to run a mine or power plant is crazy. Destroying an ECO-system to acquire fossil fuel for humans is also dumb. We can have big homes to hold junk that has memories attached to it but we don't have to heat the whole house in the winter. They have designed our heating systems to promote dependence on the oil industry. Everything is a sham and people don't even know it. We have been conditioned well. Only heat what you need to heat and turn down your thermostat. If you want to be nice and warm all the time, move to somewhere where it's never cold. Hell

This is not the creation of BP. They are just some of the players. This is a creation of greed coupled with lack of common sense. We need to get rid of the yes men in the middle that cause companies to go corrupt. Sometimes the owners don't realize what's happening. Stockholders only see gaining profits for themselves and even good companies have to please their stockholders. The system of ownership that has been created is the biggest problem of all. We have to go back to private ownership to keep liability for corrupt actions in play. We have sidestepped common sense by making corporations into entities.

Originally posted by paraphi
All the pollution in the Gulf of Mexico seems to have been attributed to BP, presumably because the dollar signs are in neon it’s easy.

In fact, the Gulf has been polluted for decades by US industry flowing out along the coast from rivers like the Mississippi. In fact, the dead zone caused by agricultural and industrial pollution has been long in existence in the Gulf

BP is just an excuse. The US people need to be a bit more intelligent about this and try to remedy the underlying problems rather than blaming all on one spill, because if this happens then they will never sort out the polluted Gulf and the systematic polluting of the Gulf will continue. The real culprits will get away with, but I suppose many will be enriched in the process.

Regards

absoultly correct!...

what stick breaks the camels proverbial back?

I see the Mocondo well disaster as the final nail in the Gulf's coffin. There is a tipping point where the is no return. One big problem is that now that the waters are poluted that this will lead to relaxiation of enviromental regulations creating a steady decline of the water quality even from the point where they are now.

Originally posted by paraphi
All the pollution in the Gulf of Mexico seems to have been attributed to BP, presumably because the dollar signs are in neon it’s easy.

In fact, the Gulf has been polluted for decades by US industry flowing out along the coast from rivers like the Mississippi. In fact, the dead zone caused by agricultural and industrial pollution has been long in existence in the Gulf

BP is just an excuse. The US people need to be a bit more intelligent about this and try to remedy the underlying problems rather than blaming all on one spill, because if this happens then they will never sort out the polluted Gulf and the systematic polluting of the Gulf will continue. The real culprits will get away with, but I suppose many will be enriched in the process.

Regards

Oh, it seems that I have misunderstood this whole scenario, I thought that all of the Billions and Billions of tons of oil from the leaking well and all of the Millions of barrels of Corexit which BP then sold to themselves for the supposed cleanup, were at least a contributble factor to the pollution, but it seems not. By the way, my change of opinion had nothing to do with the new job I have just been offered by BP ( to shut my mouth ) and the huge salary !

reply to post by paraphi

People want to blame others for their own misdeeds. You are right about the other sources of the pollution. The increased flooding has sent many toxic chemicals down into the gulf also. I am not blaming this all on BP myself but the risk taking by the oil industry also plays a part. If BP would have taken more steps to safely remove the oil it would have been wiser. I hope this has been a lesson for the Oil industry but I fear all they learned is to hide things better.

Our country has to stop making so much chemicals and stop creating things that pollute our environment. We see The Pollution from BP but do not see the pollution from the chemicals we create. I will state again that god will never let someone who doesn't respect their "Garden of Eden" into their realm. God can't take in souls that will trash and destroy heaven. Would you if you were God?