State officials shut down shrimping in Gulf amid scientists finding deformities and ‘horrifying cr

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
When the EPA told BP to stop dumping the corexit, BP told them no and kept right on doing it.

So the government bowed out and let BP do what it wanted. Yet if you or I were to dump a quart of motor oil in a storm drain, we would be fined big money and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The whole time this disaster was happening, my husband had the live cam showing the blown well on his computer, and he stated that they were handling it all wrong from the beginning, and the way they kept playing with different caps and such was an obvious failure. My husband's family has been dealing with oil since the 1940s when his family drilled some successful wells in west Texas, so he understands oil and wells.

He feels it was done on purpose, to sabotage the Gulf, and I have to agree with him. By allowing the oil to flow unchecked, and then dumping a crap-ton of corexit into the waters, BP effectively killed the shrimping and seafood industry in the area.

Once it is deemed unfit for human consumption, the oil companies can drill, baby, drill, without any more worries about some pesky family shrimping business suing. It will be a dead zone, so the government cannot deny permits for deep-water drilling for fear of damaging the environment, because it's already destroyed.

Diabolical, evil, and totally on purpose.

Right, exept that the govt did it for them so they wouldn't be liable.

When the BP Oil Gusher happened last year -- I figured it would be year or two for the Gulf to show signs of "DYING" -- but I also figured it would show up first as a massive Red Tide that was too big to heal in a year -- and the next year it would get worse such that toxic clouds of anaerobic algae would cause respiratory and nervous system disorders up to 50 miles inland. I still don't rule this out.

But these deformities -- well that's a surprise. Either it's due to the Shrimp eating bacteria that has been somehow put out of balance by the oil and the oxygen starved water it creates -- or it's due to the massive use of toxic chemicals to disperse the oil so it looked better on camera.

Either way -- I don't think there is a better culprit than the BP Oil Gusher -- and I'm sure the MSM will tell us that it's anything but ... along with all the paid shills because the Oil companies could lose trillions -- they can afford to hire a few people for peanuts to get out here and tell us we're all crazy.

Originally posted by reitze

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
When the EPA told BP to stop dumping the corexit, BP told them no and kept right on doing it.

So the government bowed out and let BP do what it wanted. Yet if you or I were to dump a quart of motor oil in a storm drain, we would be fined big money and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The whole time this disaster was happening, my husband had the live cam showing the blown well on his computer, and he stated that they were handling it all wrong from the beginning, and the way they kept playing with different caps and such was an obvious failure. My husband's family has been dealing with oil since the 1940s when his family drilled some successful wells in west Texas, so he understands oil and wells.

He feels it was done on purpose, to sabotage the Gulf, and I have to agree with him. By allowing the oil to flow unchecked, and then dumping a crap-ton of corexit into the waters, BP effectively killed the shrimping and seafood industry in the area.

Once it is deemed unfit for human consumption, the oil companies can drill, baby, drill, without any more worries about some pesky family shrimping business suing. It will be a dead zone, so the government cannot deny permits for deep-water drilling for fear of damaging the environment, because it's already destroyed.

Diabolical, evil, and totally on purpose.

Right, exept that the govt did it for them so they wouldn't be liable.

But you and I KNOW who we are going to blame. We also know that we are going to be TOLD misinformation so that those with deep pockets and deep oil wells are not blamed.

... at some point meting out justice will be about survival rather than hoping someone with lobbyist dollars in their pocket will suddenly realize they have to do their jobs ... maybe it's well past that point.

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
When the EPA told BP to stop dumping the corexit, BP told them no and kept right on doing it.

So the government bowed out and let BP do what it wanted. Yet if you or I were to dump a quart of motor oil in a storm drain, we would be fined big money and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The whole time this disaster was happening, my husband had the live cam showing the blown well on his computer, and he stated that they were handling it all wrong from the beginning, and the way they kept playing with different caps and such was an obvious failure. My husband's family has been dealing with oil since the 1940s when his family drilled some successful wells in west Texas, so he understands oil and wells.

He feels it was done on purpose, to sabotage the Gulf, and I have to agree with him. By allowing the oil to flow unchecked, and then dumping a crap-ton of corexit into the waters, BP effectively killed the shrimping and seafood industry in the area.

Once it is deemed unfit for human consumption, the oil companies can drill, baby, drill, without any more worries about some pesky family shrimping business suing. It will be a dead zone, so the government cannot deny permits for deep-water drilling for fear of damaging the environment, because it's already destroyed.

Diabolical, evil, and totally on purpose.

You have to wonder sometimes if it's just greed up to and beyond the point where things fall apart -- or a plot to kill off jobs and lives in a seemingly accidental and random way such that nobody knows who to blame or what to do.

But if you wanted to make about 50 million people desperately poor -- killing the Gulf is one way to do it. Sure it could be MERELY to make oil drilling no big deal since things are dead in the Gulf -- but it could also be a way to make people desperate and institute martial law. Create a problem so that the people beg you to restore order at the point of a gun and under the watchful eye of thousands of drones aircraft.

Or, again, it could just be the inevitable catastrophe that occurs when Profits drive everything and nobody in charge is there because they are going to look out for the public good.

Originally posted by olliemc84
reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne

 

If oil permits start flying and we see lots of drilling take place in the gulf, I pray that we get a hurricane season with 5 category 5 storms that decimate the oil industry. That will teach em to f**k with nature.

Kill the oil industry and completely decimate the coastline with toxic storm surges breaking the levees??? Lets not wish that to happen.

What we need is a revolution.

A few dozen oil tycoons in oil drums would be a lot less "clean up" to deter these kinds of problems in the future -- that's for sure.

Any way you slice it -- there are going to be tens of thousand of people who will end up dying a decade or more earlier. There will be many more families torn apart by financial stress.

There is not a mass murderer in history who has killed more people than BP, Halliburton and that Deep Horizon drilling company (name escapes me at the moment) just did to the people of the Gulf states -- not to mention a massive atrocity done to an earth we all share. This is equivalent to a War Crime in my book -- but I doubt anything will be done, because there will be all these official papers with signatures telling us that "things followed procedure and BP is blameless." And the officials who made sure of that will retire with nice bank accounts for selling us out.

We keep polluting the planet as if it will have no effect on the environment.

List of oil spills in the last 7 years

Spill / Vessel Dates
Nigeria oil spill 02011-12-21 December 21, 2011
TK Bremen 02011-12-16 December 16, 2011
Campos Basin oil spill 02011-11-07 November 7, 2011 – November 15, 2011
North Sea oil spill 02011-08-10 August 10, 2011 – August 13, 2011
Yellowstone River pipeline spill 02011-07-01 July 1, 2011
Bohai Bay oil spill 02011-06-04 June 4, 2011 – June 19, 2011
Peace River Rainbow pipeline spill 02011-04-29 April 29, 2011
Mumbai-Uran pipeline spill 02011-01-21 January 21, 2011
Fiume Santo power station 02011-01-11 January 11, 2011

nz.answers.yahoo.com...

And we can't forget about Fukushima.

We also have the Russian nuclear lighthouses, which are basically mini nuclear power plants that have been looted and in some cases are unstable and/or leaking radiation.

Exactly ten years ago Bellona reported the whereabouts of 132 nuclear-powered lighthouses situated along the north coast in Russia. The closest one was just a few dozen meters from the Norwegian border. Since 1993 Bellona has warned of the possible radioactive leaks into the environment and the threat of theft of the radioactive strontium-90 in the unguarded and distantly situated lighthouses.

Last summer the Russian Nuclear Regulatory specialists inspected the lighthouses in Siberia. Inspection revealed terrible facts: most of them were described as in very bad condition. The radiation levels near the lighthouses exceeded the permitted level, which indicates the possibility of radioactive leakage.

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I'm with you on this... slowly we are being killed. Yet everyone just moves along like nothing is happening. Sad to saying the shiyt will hit the fan has no merit... It's been hitting for a long time and still coming.

Fox

Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst

Originally posted by reitze

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
When the EPA told BP to stop dumping the corexit, BP told them no and kept right on doing it.

So the government bowed out and let BP do what it wanted. Yet if you or I were to dump a quart of motor oil in a storm drain, we would be fined big money and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The whole time this disaster was happening, my husband had the live cam showing the blown well on his computer, and he stated that they were handling it all wrong from the beginning, and the way they kept playing with different caps and such was an obvious failure. My husband's family has been dealing with oil since the 1940s when his family drilled some successful wells in west Texas, so he understands oil and wells.

He feels it was done on purpose, to sabotage the Gulf, and I have to agree with him. By allowing the oil to flow unchecked, and then dumping a crap-ton of corexit into the waters, BP effectively killed the shrimping and seafood industry in the area.

Once it is deemed unfit for human consumption, the oil companies can drill, baby, drill, without any more worries about some pesky family shrimping business suing. It will be a dead zone, so the government cannot deny permits for deep-water drilling for fear of damaging the environment, because it's already destroyed.

Diabolical, evil, and totally on purpose.

Right, exept that the govt did it for them so they wouldn't be liable.

But you and I KNOW who we are going to blame. We also know that we are going to be TOLD misinformation so that those with deep pockets and deep oil wells are not blamed.

... at some point meting out justice will be about survival rather than hoping someone with lobbyist dollars in their pocket will suddenly realize they have to do their jobs ... maybe it's well past that point.

Yea, I think its well past that point... welcome to the hunger games, Agenda 21, population reduction looms.

Some background on the toxin Corexit
corexit

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Yes it is actually. I like having the freedom to buy and sell what I want without the government telling me what to do. The problem here is not Capitalism or the USA (Which is my home and I highly take offense to your worthless word. They are worthless so its a waist of emotion on my part.)

The problem is corruption. Corruption is every were in every form of government or "isim". Go ahead, give your right to buy what you want away and while your at it do the same with anything you ever want to sell.

~I don't like what it is that you might ever sell, so you should not sell it. Because I don't like it.~

~Oh and I don't like your religion ether, so you should stop that too........~

Don't worry, my fellow Americans....... Its sarcasm lol

reply to post by kn0wh0w


Thanks for sharing this important information.

Not only are they content with ruining the world's finances and upending societies globally, they also have to mess up the food system. They truly are the viruses of the planet.

Crab people, crab people, crab people



Seriously though, this is extremely bad!

This is all part of the big scheme, the end game, the prolonging of civilisation as we know it. The trouble is, for "civilisation" read "global infrastructure" as we know that it has nothing to do with the rights of mankind no matter the implications of a civilised society.

Oil is running out. Not in 5 years, not in 10 years, but it is running out. During these current times, the impetus is on finding new oil reserves and no matter where they are. As has been mentioned, there may be restrictions on Gulf oil drilling but if you turn it into a dead zone you can dig up the whole ocean floor if you want.

New wells will pop up in all sorts of currently 'protected' places. We've already seen wars started just to secure oil supplies. This is happening the world over and done by different governments. Without oil, our current infrastructure collapses and mostly due to the demise of the automobile.

The governments cannot admit to the collapse of the world as we know it and so will revert to every trick in the book to covertly/overtly maintain oil supplies. If you don't think oil can run out, think again. Even stars burn out eventually. Even the universe will disappear in the end. If our Sun can burn out then why do you think oil won't won't run dry?

The governments consider that the livelihoods of a few sea farmers is nothing compared to the infrastructure that supports hundreds of millions of people. They don't realise that those farmers who have been working for tens of decades in that industry will be the core of the new society once the oil deficit starts to really hit home.

Prices will rise ten, twenty fold as transport costs ramp up. You think that fuelling a transport ship full of crappy plastic toys from the far East is going to be the only worry? Look at *everything* you buy... What country of manufacture does it have on it? If it is not in your homeland, then kiss it goodbye - that counts for food as well.

The oil companies cannot be allowed to fail. They know too much. They know when their reserves will run dry. The governments do not want the people to know when that it is. They don't want panic.

The end *is* coming, probably within the next 100 years. Seems like a long time, right? However, that basically means it will directly affect possibly your children, most probably your grandchildren and definitely your great grandchildren. They will know a world that we have not seen since the late 19th century.

The trouble is, the governments don't see that as they protect the oil industry they are also destroying our only means of survival. Not the damn oil you can be sure. I mean "knowledge and natural resources". Each and every one of us needs to pass on the knowledge of how to cultivate the land and support ourselves. There are places for only so many people. The population of the Earth in the modern world is enabled by our infrastructure which in turn is predicated on the supply of oil. With oil, the infrastructure collapses and so does the population. Biology 101... Did you ever take time to consider our the wheat from the fields gets to your supermarket. How the meat from abattoirs gets to the freezers. Without transport it stays where it is. You think a 'wagon train' can support 300 million plus people?

Consider that in the future, at least 6 or 7 out of every 10 people will not longer be sustainable, possibly more.

Then wonder who is going to put food on your plate, fire in your hearth. Who is going to protect you? Not the oil companies and not the government!

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
When the EPA told BP to stop dumping the corexit, BP told them no and kept right on doing it.

So the government bowed out and let BP do what it wanted. Yet if you or I were to dump a quart of motor oil in a storm drain, we would be fined big money and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The whole time this disaster was happening, my husband had the live cam showing the blown well on his computer, and he stated that they were handling it all wrong from the beginning, and the way they kept playing with different caps and such was an obvious failure. My husband's family has been dealing with oil since the 1940s when his family drilled some successful wells in west Texas, so he understands oil and wells.

He feels it was done on purpose, to sabotage the Gulf, and I have to agree with him. By allowing the oil to flow unchecked, and then dumping a crap-ton of corexit into the waters, BP effectively killed the shrimping and seafood industry in the area.

Once it is deemed unfit for human consumption, the oil companies can drill, baby, drill, without any more worries about some pesky family shrimping business suing. It will be a dead zone, so the government cannot deny permits for deep-water drilling for fear of damaging the environment, because it's already destroyed.

Diabolical, evil, and totally on purpose.

And the sad thing is no matter who you vote for this type of thing will continue.

Regulations hurt profits.

People are not in any equations
(except command and control)

here, have some food stamps, and keep buying up those bargains.

And people wonder why us truthers and conspiracy dudes get pis**ed off with these people. They lie so damn much as you can see from the link below.

This is terrorism. This was a purposely released biological/chemical attack, its no different than if AL CIA-DA did it themselves!

FDA States Gulf Food Safe To Eat

They are damn criminals that should be charged with some of the worst crimes. This is no diffrent than a terrorist biological and chemical attack.

reply to post by kn0wh0w


Meh... who is to say that malformed or deformed creatures that I eat from the sea are harmful. I eat malformed/deformed food everyday via Monsanto. Not that I agree with this but hey I'm healthy what else can I do? I'm seriously too poor to eat organic. I am literally unable to eat organic because of the cost.

Prove to me that genetically modified foods are bad for me?????




-Alien

Not saying this is not happening - its possible. But the OP links to Energy News as a source - and that is about as credible as the EU Times. It is constantly full of rubbish that is entirely fabricated. Please can we have some better, more reliable sources?

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You're right. You are absolutely right. How do you know? OK, let me put it this way, you're in a bar and a guy comes and sits next to you. He starts chatting and then offers you a drink. Not from behind the bar where you can see the liquids in the bottles that people have been supping from all evening. No, he produces it from inside his coat and places it in front of you, free of charge. Are you going to drink it? Maybe you take a sip, maybe it tastes exactly like bourbon from behind the bar.

Tell me that you're not going to think, even for a moment, "Is their anything in this that could be harmful to me?"

This guy may be innocent, he might not be. Think of that that guy with the plaster cast on his hand who is asking you to help him load his furniture into the back of his van. He may well be totally innocent and looking for help, but, once you're inside and being battered over the head it is a bit late to consider whether you have just put yourself into a dangerous situation. "It puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again!"

OK, they are extreme examples, but the point is, we don't know whether genetically modified foods will cause us or the environment any harm. It could be harm that manifests in 25 years. Are you aware that smoking was once considered as a 'healthy' thing to do? Yeah, it seems way out there, but it was. GM needs time and not just research.

Yes, I know that our existing food sources are not exactly 'healthy'. We all know about the chemicals and pesticides that are being scattered across our food, but, better the devil you know.

The genetics of plants and animals have taken millions of years to develop to the point they are at now. We have only recently unlocked many secrets of the genetic code systems. To think that we have the knowledge to accurately and with full knowledge of the effect, change these codes is a dangerous leap of the ego.

Just because the GM marketing board, who stand to make billions out of their product, say that it is safe does it make it so? Of course, I can tell from your post that you are stuck between a rock and a hard place, can't afford organic and there is no proof either way for GM.

However, listen to your intuition... You have to make your own choice. Personally, I want to know what drink somebody is buying me at the bar and I make sure that the guy with the plaster cast on his arm is in the van first, at the other end of the sofa.

Although it just is not practical for most people, think about how you can change your life so that you know where the food you eat is coming from. Check out local markets. Organic does not need to mean expensive - if they are expensive it is because the sellers are playing on people's fears and ripping them off. Find those providers who treat the customer with some respect and sell their products at a fair price. Not always an easy task in this day and age.

Humans have survived for so successfully because they have been able to consider 'eventualities', cause and effect. Unfortunately, money has enabled certain groups of people to lie about causes and hide the effects. Think pharmaceutics for instance. With GM foods you are dealing with a patented product. They own the patent, they own the 'design' of that food. You can't just take a seed and grow it in the land of the free. Once they have a choke hold on the use of their product, they can charge what they want - you want to eat, you have to buy their product, you can just plant a field full of wheat, where you gonna get the seeds from?

GM has many unanswered questions, however, the one thing we *do* know is that greed will push people to do terrible things. Are you going to place the control of food for a nation into the hands of a money making machine? I'm not just talking about growing the food, they do that now anyway. I am talking about food that can longer grow *without* the intervention of the corporation.

If you still don't get what I'm talking about, remember Jurassic Park, where the 'designed' and genetically modified dinosaurs have been created so that they don't create lysine, a necessary building block for all protein the body. The idea was that without the Park supplying the lysine the dinosaurs would all die. OK, apart from the fact that most vertebrates cannot create lysine anyway, the film's concept was that man had control over the genetics of the GM reptiles. That didn't work out.

That was a film, of course, but do you want to trust an organisation that is doing this for monetary purposes to have *your* best interests at heart, that they have covered all the bases? Give me a carrot that nature provided anyday.

Originally posted by OliArtist
Not saying this is not happening - its possible. But the OP links to Energy News as a source - and that is about as credible as the EU Times. It is constantly full of rubbish that is entirely fabricated. Please can we have some better, more reliable sources?

Stick with the terms and agreements of this website and please interpret "EU" for me?

Please can you (as in you sir OliArtist) sight a better source for us? being that we are truly unable to. And on the real note, homie..... I feel so......



-Alien