Addicted Again. God I'm Pathetic.

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff

Im having trouble understanding why you would write this.

If you werent being a complete insensitive ass you could have perhaps clarified what you meant instead of making it sound like other members wouldnt care and she should take her problems elsewhere.

Sadly, I don't see how this thread doesn't fit the criteria of other threads that get dumped after a few minutes. I'm just pointing that out.

My message was written out in haste because I thought it was going to be canned pretty fast like all the other threads about drugs do. I don't regret anything I said, but if I knew I had more time I would have said more.

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff


Thanks! I really appreciate your reply. Like I said I know this isn't a addiction help site, but I really love ATS and all it has to offer, and also because of people like you and those who took the time to say some helpful things. I would do the same for any member on any subject and I like to be supportive. I'm gonna get better and get back to being an active member on ATS! Thanks again

Originally posted by Rising Against
reply to post by Ops4Ops

 

But I just wanted to let you know though that really we're not all like the first person who replied to this thread..

Apparently you're not, because you really don't care about my grievance, and you can't see that I do empathize with the OP. I don't even know why you're trying to white knight the OP, I don't think I've done anything to make the OP feel bad about what he's gone through.

What say you OP? I really thought this thread was going to be closed, but if it isn't, I'm going to make a mega thread about drugs.

reply to post by satron
If It helps you, by all means make thread about whatever you want. Could you just Please Leave me and my thread, and the people that are actually helping me alone now. I am sorry, still fairly new and I don't know all the guidelines and If I did I would have followed them. SORRY PLEASE FORGIVE ME AND LEAVE ME ALONE
And I am a female.

reply to post by satron

Apparently you're not, because you really don't care about my grievance, and you can't see that I do empathize with the OP. I don't even know why you're trying to white knight the OP, I don't think I've done anything to make the OP feel bad about what he's gone through.

You acted in an incredibly heartless way telling the OP that nobody wants to hear about her problems, right after she opened up to us all, and admitted to finding that incredibly hard to do so. Simple as that. If you can't even see how heartless you was being with what you said then I very much so feel sorry for you. I do. You need to grow up a great deal and remember that you're actually replying to real people out there, not just user names on a computer screen.

reply to post by satron


This thread has nothing to do with drugs so why are you even bring it up? The person is asking for advice about what sounds like a drink addiction which isn't against ATS's T&C's.

So please do this OP a favour and drop your insensitive bull and troll another thread.

To the OP, I have found ATS to be quite a caring community so if you ever feel low like you did today don't worry about starting a thread about it. xx

reply to post by mclarenmp4


Thank you!

Originally posted by Ops4Ops
reply to post by satron

 

If It helps you, by all means make thread about whatever you want. Could you just Please Leave me and my thread, and the people that are actually helping me alone now. I am sorry, still fairly new and I don't know all the guidelines and If I did I would have followed them.

Well, I'm sorry if you didn't like my reply, and you felt it was insensitive, but it's the truth about the policy here. When I said no one here want's to hear about it, I meant that is the vibe you get when threads like this don't exist for too long. I mean, try and do a search for what you're talking about.

What do you find? Zilch.

Does that mean you're the only person on here that has ever had problems like this?

Think about that.

They even had a forum dedicated to your subject, and it's shut down.

And in all my posts in your thread, I've never agreed with you saying that you're pathetic. I don't think that at all.

Originally posted by satron

Originally posted by Rising Against
reply to post by Ops4Ops

 

But I just wanted to let you know though that really we're not all like the first person who replied to this thread..

Apparently you're not, because you really don't care about my grievance, and you can't see that I do empathize with the OP. I don't even know why you're trying to white knight the OP, I don't think I've done anything to make the OP feel bad about what he's gone through.

What say you OP? I really thought this thread was going to be closed, but if it isn't, I'm going to make a mega thread about drugs.

edit on 18-4-2012 by satron because: (no reason given)

I will respectfully say....this thread isn't about you.

It's about a fellow member, in a time of need, reaching out for friendship, and companionship. I care about, and understand what she is feeling. The low self esteem, the loneliness....just needing to make a step in the right direction. And, hoping this is it. It is.

I send Prayers for Clarity and Strength...I care, and am here for you OP.

Des

Originally posted by Destinyone

Originally posted by satron

Originally posted by Rising Against
reply to post by Ops4Ops

 

But I just wanted to let you know though that really we're not all like the first person who replied to this thread..

Apparently you're not, because you really don't care about my grievance, and you can't see that I do empathize with the OP. I don't even know why you're trying to white knight the OP, I don't think I've done anything to make the OP feel bad about what he's gone through.

What say you OP? I really thought this thread was going to be closed, but if it isn't, I'm going to make a mega thread about drugs.

edit on 18-4-2012 by satron because: (no reason given)

I will respectfully say....this thread isn't about you.

I never said it was. Is this thread about you now?

reply to post by Ops4Ops

Hi.

You are a recovering addict. It sounds like you are having or heading for a relapse. No need to panic, no need to feel bad either. You've been there before and you also know the way back out.

As drugs (all drugs, not just the illegal ones) change people, your nearest and dearest have thankfully noticed the change in you. You telling them yourself too is only a good thing. Honesty.

Things are so hard and stressful and expensive because the world has been designed by greedy, evil people who live in highly remote and well-guarded ivory towers. But enough of the conspiracies and the apologist talk.

I get the impression, possibly trying to read between the lines too, that something is or has happened recently. Have you or your life undergone some recent unpleasant change? Could it be that that has led you back down familiar paths of feeling bad?

Speaking from personal experience for a moment, my first real experience with "drugs" was when I was 30 or so. I took one that I'd always been against for so many years it was just weird and very unlike me. I got into alcohol slowly. Hand on heart, apart from the odd beer at Christmas or some other festivity I never drank alcohol at all, it just wasn't my thing and I hated the taste of every "drink" that I'd tried. Long story short, I was doing a litre of whisky and 20-40 pints of beer a week, all after work in the evening. It's not as bad as some people have gotten but it's hardly in the healthy limits either. (2 or 3 units of alcohol per week are the maximum advised by health agencies)

The big question is "why?" In a word, unhappiness. Alcohol kicks it out. Easy. "Bad day at the office darling?" sums it up well. But it was a multitude of things, work life, home life, family life, and then some and for some reason I did something I never usually would have done. Hence my statement above, has something happened recently (out of the ordinary) that you are not happy with? Can something be done to address that problem which then also may have a positive effect on the other thing?

In any case, I wish you well, sympathise, empathise and hope it starts getting better soon. A rant is good, it still shows you have fire.

reply to post by satron


Well I'll just take a stab in the dark and let you know that your own personal feelings and agenda in relation to ATS and its policies are really standing out as a major issue for you. Dude, write a rant, tell your own problems to somebody in your own thread. You have worked pretty hard to try and steer this thread to your own agenda. Based on the replies to you, I'd say epic fail on your part.

So if this thread isn't deleted, your gonna go write something you think is then acceptable, blah blah, And then if your thread is deleted, your gonna cry whaa whaa why are you picking on me. One advance clue - cause you clearly don't understand what was really being discussed in this thread.

Asta la bye bye.

reply to post by Ops4Ops

To the OP: One advantage to someone so clearly misguided posting in your thread is the ability to see what an incredible minority they are in. I'm glad that you have received so many replies that might be able to offer you some needed support. I applaud your handling of it all, and sincerely wish you the very best. Some pretty great advice about getting to a meeting, and reconnecting with friends here. Just the act of reaching out for help is a tremendous step. I congratulate you for that, and wish you success on your journey to recovery. Just remember, one step at a time.

reply to post by Ops4Ops


I have been there and have had to be put on meds after dealing with my issues and still didnt fall back into that lifestyle. You know how I did it? I just didnt pick up no matter what. Dont bother going to meetings other than to socialize with people that arent using that is the only positive aspect of NA and AA. The rest is garbage the trick is to just not do it. dont talk yourself into it and dont play the "Im too weak to resist" crap. You just have to grow some balls and do it. Its all in the mind and the willpower is there. Practicing meditation and the buddhist precepts helps with those hard times. They say that you cant white knuckle it and make it but thats how everyone does it at first until they learn to deal with their desires in a more detached manner. Ive been clean for 4 years now besides the narcotics I had to take for my injury and had no problem getting off those even though it opened that door wide open again.

Originally posted by Open2Truth
reply to post by satron

 

Well I'll just take a stab in the dark and let you know that your own personal feelings and agenda in relation to ATS and its policies are really standing out as a major issue for you. Dude, write a rant, tell your own problems to somebody in your own thread. You have worked pretty hard to try and steer this thread to your own agenda. Based on the replies to you, I'd say epic fail on your part.

You say you're taking a stab in the dark, and then you berate me for doing the same.

Maybe I would rant about it, and maybe other people would rant about it if they thought it would actually stay up. Can you link me a rant of that type to this thread, or you can PM it. If you can't find any of the sort, then does that mean that I would be the first to rant about it.

Come on!

So if this thread isn't deleted, your gonna go write something you think is then acceptable, blah blah, And then if your thread is deleted, your gonna cry whaa whaa why are you picking on me. One advance clue - cause you clearly don't understand what was really being discussed in this thread.

Prove to me that it wouldn't be, do a search. What do you find? You can't tell me you think these type of threads are unique.

Here, I'll give you something to start with

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Dear, sweet ATS'ers, I think satron has got the point and also explained his reasons for the short and (possibly) misunderstood 1st post. I could be wrong but I think satron might not be a native english speaker, not that it matters either. We've all said things that sometimes come over a little wrong, surely? Please let's keep this about the OP.
ETA Nvm, apparently I was wrong, it could happen!

reply to post by Destinyone


Thank you so much, I was just telling my boyfriend about all your guys and started crying. ATS has made me feel better, and just reading other people threads and getting back involved has already lifted my spirits

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
I could be wrong but I think satron might not be a native english speaker, not that it matters either.

If you don't know and it doesn't matter, then tell me why you bring such self-evident absurdities up?

Thank you so much for sharing your story. I think that maybe your correct. I work 5 days a week, the night shift so I think my system is on a different schedule and I just get worn down. The bills piling up, doesn't help. And I live and work at a Lodge out in the middle of nowhere. Maybe I do need to make some changes to get out of this funk.

reply to post by Ops4Ops


Something that might take the edge off is to take benedryl. You might not even need a full dose. It's pretty good for people that get panic attacks, which I'm sure you get, because I've had alcohol affect me that way before.