Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
The fact that so many things have been misrepresented in this case leads me to wonder if the media at least aren't trying to fulfill some kind of agenda with this.
#1) Why do they only show older pictures of Trayvon?

Because that is the pictures
treyvons family lawyers gave
out to the press and that is what
they are using...
Treyvons picture they are using
when he was 12 and 13 now 4-5 years
later he actually towered over zimmerman
weighed another 80-90 lbs and was bigger
then zimmerman..

This new witness has no reason to lie..
Not even really knew, just knew to us.
The police have known this witness since
the beginning but we just get to find out about it.

THE MSM, obama, the lawyers are using
this poor boys death to booster there political
career and ego..

they make me sick...

Watching everyone trying to hang zimmerman
without his due process kills me!

Pops....You are preaching the same words since the beginning of this thread...whats the point of making one if you refuse to have an objective disscussion on an issue. You obviously refuse to have an rational view of the whole situation, also obviously didn't read or chose to ignore a lot of previous posts that raised some good points.

reply to post by popsmayhem




I'm sorry but It's crap.


The kid had some sweets and a drink.


If Zimmerman was so threatened then shoot his legs, shoot to maim... not to kill.


The guy was wondering around thinking he was a bad--ass, neighbourhood watch tool, with a gun.

He's sees a black kid (must be up to no good right?) and goes to tackle him... even AFTER police told him not to.

Now kid is dead.

And this dick head is wandering around a free man.


What a load of BS

Pops, if only you showed this zeal in outing banksters and wallstreet criminals, exposing the illegal wars, denouncing warmongering regimes using american man power and wealth to their ends, questioning police brutality against peaceful protesters, etc.

As another poster stated, you are one of the most hard core propagandists on ats yet expect people to believe you dont hold a malicious agenda wrapped up in this apparent insane fanatism over this issue? By now, considering your posting record, any issue you support should raise alarms and be suspect by the more rational ats member.

In conclusion, you are not to be trusted.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


The aggressive racist you reffer to has two black children he mentors and black family members,As to" prusuing"
all Zimmerman did by Trayvons girlfriends account was ask a question.The next witness puts Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating him.Huff and buff speculate all you want.I preffer to stick to the facts.

reply to post by rebellender


For once or at least in a long time, I agree with what the President did yesterday. There have been very large marches in different cities all over the country everyday this week with more planned for the weekend and next week The public outcry has become so loud that him addressing it, in my opinion, was the right thing to do. I also don't take issue with the MSM in the same way many in this thread and others are. The MSM is just retarded per usual.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
Uh hey dude.
Did you forget that all these people in the neighborhood have reason to back up Zimmerman? He is their neighbor and their neighborhood watchman.

Sorry, the neighbors in this particular neighborhood could be biased and have reason to support Zimmerman beyond being completely honest.

So? That's just pure speculation.

And even if it's true, you still have no actual proof, unlike this witness that provides actual first hand eyewitness testimony, along with physical evidence and 9/11 tapes that support his account.

reply to post by blupblup


Tackle him?It is speculation by people like you that has caused the racial tension.I guess that Trayvons girlfriend account is now ignored by you because it doesn't fit your wild speculation.She said when Zimmerman approached all he did was ask a question.Trayvons own words were a guy was following him not chasing ,prusuing or hunting him.The question on this thread is why if true or not has the MSM choosen to ignore the witness statements.If you are going to reply with speculation or your opinion don't bother I an interested in the facts or witness accounts.Not wild speculation.

Originally posted by blupblup
Well this murder did happen like a month ago... and it's only because of the tireless efforts of friends, family and others supporting the family and raising awareness that anyone (media included) is even talking about it.

The truth is here, the truth is,
al sharpton, the martin family lawyer,
they all see dollar signs now..
Obama sees this as a good crisis,
being used to booster his political race.
Make the public feed off anger..

They saw a case they can get the race war division going..

Zimmerman had every right to defend himself
and stand his ground. The witness they have known
since the beginning, and they are just now letting it out
that there IS a witness. A witness that backs up the story
that zimmerman was not the aggressor...

Originally posted by popsmayhem
The fact is zimmerman is innocent
That is why zimmerman was not arrested because it was
known that zimmerman was attacked.. A DEAD MAN CAN
NOT ATTACK YOU, SO obviously trayvon as per say
of the g/f's hearsay phone call went to confront zimmerman
zimmerman was afraid for him life after being punched multiple
times as treyvon tried to take his gun, gun went off treyvon dead..
proof
The cops would of arrested zimmerman
if zimmerman did not have the bruises
and beats on his face. They have it documented
people came running out of there house cops
showed up within min. after the shooting
zimmerman had no time to wound himself
and the cut marks on treyvons hands prove
he punched zimmerman. putting zimmerman
in a position where he assumed his life was at risk..
Was zimmerman and treyvon acting not to smart
yes. If treyvon would of never hit zimmerman zimmerman
would not of shot him.

He's not innocent, and look at your avatar, a bit obsessed yet? If I was being stalked and harassed by a stranger. I'd beat his ass too.

Originally posted by jesiaha
I feel this thread kinda backpedaled with people bringing back the race issue....Zimmerman being half hispanic and having black family members and friends rules out the hate crime. People making it a race discussion are just fueling unecessary fire.

Well the POTUS is the one pouring gas on this fire my friend... agitator-in-chief you can take the boy out of Chicago but you cannot take Chicago out of the boy. Way to stir-up racial tensions to push an agenda - Thanks Barry.

Originally posted by jesiaha

I've given the picture issue a thought, there's no agenda behind the younger picture of Martin. Simply put, it was probably the most recent ''physical'' picture his parents could provide. Everything is digital now...any other recent pictures are probably Face book pictures. Now we all know how young people tend to pose and how those pictures are for the most part goofy.

Wow are you really going to go there -

1. if the Parents don't have a recent school photo for their kid they are not doing it right. I get one (actually two i think) a year. Nice posed shots from a professional. You know the ones that go in the yearbooks and on parental desks at work and on the walls home. Then again - this may say something... Perhaps the parents needed to be more engaged in his life?

2. If your kid's FB page looks and sounds like a thug nation recruiting poster - again you are doing it wrong. Sorry, you walk, talk, act and portray all outward appearances of a "gangster" in dress and manner - people will take you for one. Can't dress and act like a thug then cry foul when people perceive you as one. Again, where are the parents?

Originally posted by jesiaha

Imagine if this whole thing happened to your kid and some random face book picture of him posing like a thug ended up on the news?

It’s called parenting - I have a daughter, she doesn't pose like a thug, in skimpy clothing, a bathing suit, or PJ's for FB posts. She doesn't purse her lips and pretend to be slutty etc.... She knows better - it sends the wrong message.

She has some FB friends who have questionable posts sometimes - won't be at all surprised when they end up 16 and pregnant to be honest. You reap what you sow as far as your image in concerned.

Act a fool, people will treat you like one, act a slut same goes - act a thug...not a hard leap to make either.

Again - this culture that kids have nowadays in which they speak, dress and act like thugs then cry foul when people perceive them as such astonishes me.

reply to post by blupblup


Exactly, people like the OP want to pretend there hasn't been a miscarriage of justice here that is upsetting A LOT of people, that it's just people getting frothy over a black kid getting killed as if the media and people nationwide always react this way.

you are right the truth is out and now the manipulators of truth are in action!

Zimmerman is just wrong .. he did not stand his ground but advanced and confronted... that is what "Jeb Bush" has stated!

and these residents are also on the hook since it was their "vigilante community watch" who committed the murder/assult will end up being sued by the family for wrongful death! The whole community is on the hook for this.......


the law does not apply in this case and the "stand your ground law" does not apply when someone pursues their quarry .....

Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
GF correspond with her account.
2. Where is the time stamp for the 911 call from Zims
3. The childs body was not positioned near a street or any curb where a car could be located, but rather right next to neighbors homes. Zims was not going back to his car.
4. That voice is that of a child. Not a man. That mother knows her own childs voice
5.The Department of Justice will interview this fake "Call me John" witness and when he get's asked real questions by REAL law enforcement because Florida has proven they are corrupt and incompetent fools, then we will see w

He is not fake they have known this witness
since the beginning, he just gave his first interview..
THAT VOICE IS ZIMMERMAN, what treyvons
mom is saying that *sounds like my son*
IS HEARSAY, THE WITNESS AND ZIMMERMAN
know that zimmerman is calling for help.
that is why the shots are heard AFTER the call for help
AFTER treyvon tried to kill zimmerman...
Quit listening to the hearsay... The only thing not hearsay
is the eye witness account, and zimmermans 9-11 tapes
that line up with zimmermans story that he acted in self defense..
Time stamps are all there.
THE GIRLFRIEND story is HEARSAY!!!
Believe the MSM propaganda believe lies.
If they could of arrested, or should of
they would have they cant because
the truth is he did not kill treyvon in cold blood
it was self defense.

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

 

The aggressive racist you reffer to has two black children he mentors and black family members,As to" prusuing"
all Zimmerman did by Trayvons girlfriends account was ask a question.The next witness puts Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating him.Huff and buff speculate all you want.I preffer to stick to the facts.

should some one who couldn't even get through a community criminal justice classes be allowed to act if he is a law enforcement officer? This is what happens when yahoos like Zimmerman are given authority ... oh wait ... he is a "self appointed" community watch captain......

this bozo got in over his head playing cop and now he is just trying to shield himself from prosecution

Originally posted by Snoopy1978
Pops, if only you showed this zeal in outing banksters and wallstreet criminals, exposing the illegal wars, denouncing warmongering regimes using american man power and wealth to their ends, questioning police brutality against peaceful protesters, etc.

As another poster stated, you are one of the most hard core propagandists on ats yet expect people to believe you dont hold a malicious agenda wrapped up in this apparent insane fanatism over this issue? By now, considering your posting record, any issue you support should raise alarms and be suspect by the more rational ats member.

In conclusion, you are not to be trusted.

Just read the news article in the OP...

Anything to say about the first hand account of a witness
who saw treyvon attack zimmerman, and zimmerman shoot
in self defense?

Who are you? A no body

Keep going on with hearsay i'll present truth
and facts, witnesses and the actual evidence
thanks. =)

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
reply to post by blupblup

 

Tackle him?It is speculation by people like you that has caused the racial tension.I guess that Trayvons girlfriend account is now ignored by you because it doesn't fit your wild speculation.She said when Zimmerman approached all he did was ask a question.Trayvons own words were a guy was following him not chasing ,prusuing or hunting him.

I don't mean tackle as in physically tackle... perhaps read a dictionary!
He asked the police whether he should "tackle" (Ie confront, approach, whatever YOU want to call it) Trayvon and the police said no.

He went against police advice because he is a tool with a gun who thinks he's above the law.... he IS the law in his neighbourhood.

Now a kid is dead because of him

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by blupblup

 

Exactly, people like the OP want to pretend there hasn't been a miscarriage of justice here that is upsetting A LOT of people, that it's just people getting frothy over a black kid getting killed as if the media and people nationwide always react this way.

The other people just want to see
a white/hispanic boy get hung..

That is what everyone is calling for
Hang that white boy zimmerman!!
he is not even white!!
sickening!!

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
The fact that so many things have been misrepresented in this case leads me to wonder if the media at least aren't trying to fulfill some kind of agenda with this.
#1) Why do they only show older pictures of Trayvon?

Because that is the pictures
treyvons family lawyers gave
out to the press and that is what
they are using...
Treyvons picture they are using
when he was 12 and 13 now 4-5 years
later he actually towered over zimmerman
weighed another 80-90 lbs and was bigger
then zimmerman..

This new witness has no reason to lie..
Not even really knew, just knew to us.
The police have known this witness since
the beginning but we just get to find out about it.

THE MSM, obama, the lawyers are using
this poor boys death to booster there political
career and ego..

they make me sick...

Watching everyone trying to hang zimmerman
without his due process kills me!

edit on 24-3-2012 by popsmayhem because: (no reason given)

what due process ??? if he would have had due process then he would have been in court and a fair hearing on the case would be heard ... but Zimmerman and the cops have a different idea of "due process" which only apply to those who stand on the otherside of the "thin blue line"

Originally posted by blupblup

He went against police advice because he is a tool with a gun who thinks he's above the law.... he IS the law in his neighbourhood.

Since when is a 9-11 dispatcher a cop?

They have no legal authority over you
and can only suggest what to do from a script..

9-11 dispatchers would tell you to sit there
and do nothing even if you had a gun and there was a man going through
your house trying to find you in the closet