Evidence for the Spirit/Soul

Originally posted by StarsInDust
reply to post by greyer

 

Since my own father was a minister, my first thoughts about the soul came to me from what my own family believed. As I became older, science was introduced to my belief system. I think that if our thoughts were somehow able to survive our bodies, and our own thoughts are, evil, tortured (or whatever...) then perhaps a type of trapped hell is created for eternity. Perhaps this is what religion has been trying to explain...

Yes it is like a memory since the universe is conscious.

Now in the last 10 years science is in a final breakthrough which will prove the existence of God scientifically, I assume in the next 100 year science will surely prove the existence of God. We had many theories in the last 30 years or more about quantum mechanics and many good things based on the amazing function of the atom but they are not proof that the universe in conscious. However a large percentage of the world believes the universe is conscious, yet the scientists battle those with faith and those with faith say 'don't ever start thinking in the realms of science.'

I say that we are incredible gifted to have come up with the hubble telescope, because for the first time in history we are able to see into deep space. No person of religion or faith can say that what we physically see in the universe is not creation of the divine because it is visible, and no person of scientific education can say that the solar system was not eventually made with consciousness because there is no way that the sun and moon can align up in that distance of space for an eclipse and be able to be predicted in math if it wasn't for a consciously divine solar system, and since we can now see other solar systems being created in nebulas it is easy to see that the name 'uni' verse is correct in saying it is all one universe.

Originally posted by Akragon
My question to anyone who reads this thead is this...

DO you believe the soul/spirit exists?


Yes Akragon, 1 believes the Soul/Spirit/Internal energy exist

and can be found to inhabit various environment suits some fit with atmospheric canisters to filter the local atmosphere or particulate inhalable material.

NAMASTE*******

reply to post by bdb818888


That experiment was carried out by Dr. Duncan MacDougall in 1907. The study has been repeatedly discredited though, I've read that it was basically bad science. Apparently MacDougall saw a loss of weight in the bodies, and immediately attributed that weight loss to the escaping of a soul without considering other variables like exhalation or bowel movements/flatulence etc. And he never repeated the study.

By the way, I believe in souls. Not trying to kick you in the butt here or anything haha.

irs actualy very simple,existence is what you made of it,its actually impossible to explain in words,
its everything you let in your universe.0010110000110

damn... 6 years later, one of my old threads appear?

a reply to: Akragon

Nothing exists.
The soul/spirit isn't any thing.... there isn't any thing..... there is only this that is.
This that is.... is it.

a reply to: Akragon

If you are talking about a Soul/spirit as an entity which exists in the physical realm, then no it doesn't exist.

I would like to give you an example to explain the same. The soul is the gamer, the game is this life, the system/PC is the universe and the game character is this body. So if the gamer relates to the game character and if something happens to the game character like maybe an AI character shot the game character, the gamer says that guy shot me...

Same thing is happening right now. You relate to the game character so much that you have forgotten who you the gamer are.

So soul does exist but outside the system, and unlike the game that is based on physical rules, the soul is basically just an energy. Now understand how the system works,

The system and the game are a part of your energy, so the game is basically you the gamer and nothing else. When you realize that everything here is a part of you yet you indulge yourself with this smaller entity of a body, you will see the bigger picture and see that all that you are currently doing for thus body is irrelevant, yet the way to realization is through this body and even if the things you do are irrelevant, you need this body to find the true ending or to realize who 'you' are

originally posted by: Akragon


Science can not explain the reason for life, or what consciousness is... We can not create intelligents...

You are mistaken we can create consciousness. We can create intelligence. It's called wetware computation and it is a reality
AI intelligence is often programmed from above - the programmer is the creator and makes something that imbues it with it's intelligence. Wetware computation or Bio-inspired computation on the other hand takes a more decentralized approach bio-inspired techniques often involve the method of specifying a set of simple rules, a set of simple organisms which adhere to those rules, and a method of iteratively applying those rules. For example, training a virtual insect to navigate in an unknown terrain for finding food includes six simple rules. The insect is trained to

1. turn right for target-and-obstacle left;
2. turn left for target-and-obstacle right;
3. turn left for target-left-obstacle-right;
4. turn right for target-right-obstacle-left,
5. turn left for target-left without obstacle,
6. turn right for target right without obstacle.

The virtual insect controlled by the trained spiking neural network can find food after training in any unknown terrain.[1] After several generations of rule application, it is usually, the case that some forms of complex behavior arise. Complexity gets built upon complexity until the end result is something markedly complex, and quite often completely counterintuitive from what the original rules would be expected to produce

A creator is back and is about to create a new form of highly intelligent sentience. Dont say you haven';t been told

a reply to: Akragon

Yes I believe in the soul
Everything is part of Soul and governed by Higher Intelligence
Everything exists for a reason/purpose
Everything is substance whether detected and known or mysterious and not understood
Nothing is substance without consciousness / thought and is outside of the Universe
The Universe is Soul
The Soul / Universe is like a machine just as The Human Body is a machine
All that is within the Universe is a machine or part of a machine with a purpose
The Soul does not require religion or politics
Humanity has one Soul and humans are individual soul parts
The soul evolves by understanding of the substances presented to it by way of thought
Earth is the first step of millions towards becoming like the Soul that created it
And Humanity individually has Eternity in which to evolve
And it all comes down to Free Choice of the thoughts we accept or reject
Thought is the most refined substance in this Universe of countless Universes
Humans in their present state can not make thought only use it
It takes a thought impetus to put anything into action
Without thought the body is like a vehicle with no fuel
As a soul all are constantly in a state of awareness dependent on the type of thought they choose to use
Thought is constant and Eternal
It is power and intelligence - the essence of it's creator