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Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by odinson
So your solution is to take a defeatist attitude?
I guess you are right. We failed to achieve what we could have become. Now this world will be punished for it.
I will pray that God grants some mercy for us!
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by CaptainNemo
Maybe there would not be so much suffering in the world if people had not been sitting around waiting for the rapture the last thirty years. God gives you no credit for hoping to be relieved of your responsibility to lessen the suffering in the world.
Originally posted by CaptainNemo
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by CaptainNemo
Maybe there would not be so much suffering in the world if people had not been sitting around waiting for the rapture the last thirty years. God gives you no credit for hoping to be relieved of your responsibility to lessen the suffering in the world.
You don't even know the torment i've been through bro. My entire life has been plauged my indecision and great empathy, I have always been that person who cared too much. I'd give anybody the coat off my back and I have before. I've known the end was coming for a while now. And for a while I refused to talk about it with anyone of my peers. Only recently have I tried to iterate to anybody willing to listen that Jesus was the only way to salvation and that we are down at the end of days. NOBODY EVER listened to me but still i'd continue to try with different people but my efforts were otiose. I am done now, let the fools be fools. THey will be witness to the prophecy and power of Yahweh. I've committed myself to salvation. How can I be faulted.? Satan has deceived the entire world. Maybe there would not be so much suffering in the world if people were not so stubborn.
Originally posted by I Want To Believe
reply to post by IAMIAM
It is not my place to judge. I cannot see your heart, only God can which is why only He can judge you. Think about what I said and ponder on it as I will do for what you have said. God is love and God is Truth.
I know what you are saying but be careful when you say the number of people who go to heaven. The bible says that some will be taken prior to the tribulation. It says those that are left will go through many horrible plagues, but it does not say they will not go to heaven. We can’t know who will come out of the tribulation cleansed by the blood of the lamb and who will be cast into the lake of the fire.
I was brought up from birth being told Jesus was showing up to judge the world at any minute and now I am approaching 60 and it took me this long to realize that some people were reading things into the Bible that were just not there. So, I just spent fifty plus years ending up with nothing to show for my life as far as any substantial accomplishments or legacy or even kids seeing how it would have been just unnecessary torture for children who were going to have their life cut short as the world goes up in flames. So, what was that torment, again?
. . . I am done now . . .
What can you do?
32But of that day or that hour not a [single] person knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
33Be on your guard [constantly alert], and watch and pray; for you do not know when the time will come.
Originally posted by CaptainNemo
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by CaptainNemo
Maybe there would not be so much suffering in the world if people had not been sitting around waiting for the rapture the last thirty years. God gives you no credit for hoping to be relieved of your responsibility to lessen the suffering in the world.
You don't even know the torment i've been through bro. My entire life has been plauged my indecision and great empathy, I have always been that person who cared too much. I'd give anybody the coat off my back and I have before. I've known the end was coming for a while now. And for a while I refused to talk about it with anyone of my peers. Only recently have I tried to iterate to anybody willing to listen that Jesus was the only way to salvation and that we are down at the end of days. NOBODY EVER listened to me but still i'd continue to try with different people but my efforts were otiose. I am done now, let the fools be fools. THey will be witness to the prophecy and power of Yahweh. I've committed myself to salvation. How can I be faulted.? Satan has deceived the entire world. Maybe there would not be so much suffering in the world if people were not so stubborn.
Originally posted by CaptainNemo
I honestly can't wait till the end. So much suffering in the world. I'm just so so thankful Yahweh has allowed me to serve him for 18 long years.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by CaptainNemo
I was brought up from birth being told Jesus was showing up to judge the world at any minute and now I am approaching 60 and it took me this long to realize that some people were reading things into the Bible that were just not there. So, I just spent fifty plus years ending up with nothing to show for my life as far as any substantial accomplishments or legacy or even kids seeing how it would have been just unnecessary torture for children who were going to have their life cut short as the world goes up in flames. So, what was that torment, again?
. . . I am done now . . .
It may be too painful for you to contemplate that you are not getting points from God for telling people the world is going to end.
People just have ridiculously short lives as it is and no one needs a suddenly ending world to realize they need to start doing what is right, now, and anyone who acts under thread of punishment are not really repentant anyway, so the info is useless.
edit on 25-1-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by odinson
What can you do?
Follow Jesus.
Jesus was not waiting around for the world to end and he knew the world as they knew it in Judea was going to come to an end soon enough, so he told his disciples that they would not run out of towns in their country to go to before the time came when they would not be able to any more.
The example is to do what you need to do regardless if in the midst of your activity you suddenly find yourself on a cross. If everyone was that fearless the world would change for the better very quickly and evil people know that and is why they promote scary stories of the end of the world, where people stop caring about the world, the same world God gave His only begotten son to save.edit on 25-1-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
Being "caught up" could have multiple meanings.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by CaptainNemo
I was brought up from birth being told Jesus was showing up to judge the world at any minute and now I am approaching 60 and it took me this long to realize that some people were reading things into the Bible that were just not there. So, I just spent fifty plus years ending up with nothing to show for my life as far as any substantial accomplishments or legacy or even kids seeing how it would have been just unnecessary torture for children who were going to have their life cut short as the world goes up in flames. So, what was that torment, again?
. . . I am done now . . .
It may be too painful for you to contemplate that you are not getting points from God for telling people the world is going to end.
People just have ridiculously short lives as it is and no one needs a suddenly ending world to realize they need to start doing what is right, now, and anyone who acts under thread of punishment are not really repentant anyway, so the info is useless.
edit on 25-1-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
I don't know who you are or where you live or how old you are, I'm just saying I got this end-of-the-world-right-now theory rammed down my throat from the beginning and being someone who wants to love God, thought I should believe all that since it was an integral part of my religion. It caused a lot of problems in my life that I would have been better off without. I see no good whatsoever in preaching apocalypse and we have enough real life disasters and wars to realize we are not going to live forever and we should seek God in the hope of a future resurrection and to live good lives so we are not resurrected to shame but to glory. Going around preaching this additional doom and gloom type stuff as a substitute to actual good works is a nice ticket to hell in my opinion.
Just because you didn't get satisfactuion in life doesn't mean others can't. It only take one to see all these posts and change themselves for the better and I will be satisfied that I did a jiob well done.
This sounds like paranoid delusional sort of talk and I think you are probably trying to make up for a sinful past by inventing a martyr's path to walk as a way of penance but it is not real, there is no command by Jesus to go out into the world and proclaim it is coming to an end.
remember the path to hell is wide and the path to salvation is narrow. I would rather be hated by the world for what I believe in than be a sinner and be loved by them.