Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants

Originally posted by muse7
Those children that the governor is cutting aid for are U.S. Citizens.

If we're going to get rid of birth right citizenship then it would only be fair if we went through all the records to find out if your grandparents came here as immigrants, and if they did, then we should also revoke your citizenship as you did not inherit your citizenship because your ancestors came here as immigrants.

I think this would greatly reduce the burden on our infrastructure, hospitals and welfare

edit on 1/22/2012 by muse7 because: (no reason given)

Since those children are already here and have citizenship, why not have them grandfathered in, sort of like how people already in healthcare programs are grandfathered in their programs, or like how the Revolutionary Patriots and Presidents were grandfathered after the Constitution demanded that a US President would have to be natural born(that is both parents citizens of the US at the time of birth). .

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
But Rush implicated the Obamanomics as creating more dependence on welfare with his policies.

Didn't Rush say about a year ago he would rather the US fail, then be under a Obama rule?
So safe to say what his word is worth!!
I know this may be hard for some to grasp, but Presidents, Dem and GOP, do not induce polices to hurt the populace.

At times in our Global Economy , things are happening at a grander scale that despite polices, things do get worse.

I'm not at all surprised by this response from you based on your posts I've read recently elsewhere.
Are you disputing the point because you have so much hate for Rush? Are you going to not look at the statistics just because it was on Rush's show?

Are you trying to say that Presidents and both parties really care about all of us and therefore all that is happening is just some bizarre freak of global economy?

I believe that is an attempt to explain away the effects of One World govt policies made by Internationalists and the UN as being just an odd anomaly. Will it be fixed as oddly and spontaneously as well?
Are you an advocate of the Free market or an advocate of Statism and centralized planning?

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I think you are wanting me to clarify what I wrote, np.

Rush is one of the most disgusting waste of skin to breathe air, ok, thats clarified.

Open your eyes a bit, countries are defaulting, countries are being downgraded , war drums are beating, so ya, on a Global scale, the Bovine Excretment has hit the Rotating Device.

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Actually, I think I heard just yesterday something about France being downgraded.

I will overlook the obvious jab at my character. But again, you have clarifired your abject hatred of Rush, ok you have that right, but what about your position on the economic scale between free market and not so free market?
Your position seems to be that the global excrement hitting the rotating device is more or less accidental? or Mismanagement? Or planned by the Ruling Elite?

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Open your eyes a bit,

You honestly see the quote above as a shot to your character?

And France was just 1 of 17 countries down graded, as I said, global troubles.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Open your eyes a bit,

You honestly see the quote above as a shot to your character?

And France was just 1 of 17 countries down graded, as I said, global troubles.

No, more or less that because you view Rush in such manner, then my quoting him I must be of similar manner.... perhaps you didn't mean it that way.

Anyway to address your idea that my eyes are wide shut, I wonder if you noticed my little post about Nafta and the other one about the IMF, to which I was slapped in the face so insolently by the OP.

Just for a bit of fun

Man-made boundaries and hatred and subjugation and corruption are useless

So you are for no boundaries? NAU? One World Govt ruled by an Elite?

kansas, right in the heart of the Bible belt, where over 86% claim to be Christian.

what better example to show the people of the world your version of feeding 5000 people with a few loaves of bread and some fish by starving innocent children because of their race and citizenship status.

but i shouldn't condemn a whole state. it only takes a few disciples of satan to hijack an entire government and to harm, while claiming to be "Christian".

but there's no excuse to vote and elect them when their actions speak for their character and true nature.

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Who says Christians aren't feeding children? The difference between a conservative Christian and a liberal atheist is the atheist usually wants the govt to handle it and the conservative Christian usually wants the private sector to handle it.
www.google.com... l=0l0l0l20407034lllllllllll0&aqi=g4

14,400,000 results in 17 seconds

As a sidenote, Biden was more generous in charitable contributions than the Obamas.


As for Satanists hijacking an entire govt, sure that could be the case if you are talking about the federal govt too. After all, Soros is connected to the Rothschilds. That's probably not what you were insinuating though.

While I understand the do good mentality, I have also seen citizens
of this country turned down for benefits and illegals approved.
There is a double standard.

What part of "No" and what part of "illegal" do you not understand?
If you were "illegal" you would expect exactly what to happen to
you? Get the prize behind door #1, get deported or go to jail?

Welcome to the Third World of being PC.

Not being down on you personally, just being realistic.

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La Raza is one of those dreaded lobbyists certain 99 percenters hate so much these days.

Things to consider

The Mexicans are coming and I’m sorry

Posted on February 10th, 2009 by Ron

...Just who do these people think they are? We stole this country fair and square. Our forefathers came over boat by boat and ship by ship to this land. They slaughtered scores of native Americans by introducing them to the business end of the firearms that they brought with them. They desecrated those heathen savages in every way possible, many times raping their women and killing their children until there was nothing left of them and leaving them nothing. Not even their pride. We stole this land fair and square right?

Our fore fathers brought slaves over from Africa. Ship by ship and boat by boat, cleared farm land, planted food and cotton with the aforementioned slave labor. They built this country on that stolen land and made it in to what it is today and that is something we can all be proud of right?

This is a blog written by an American regarding the conflicted feeling that we should have. He starts the article by describing how an Arizona rancher has assisted in the arrest of 12,000 people crossing the border illegally. He was being sued by 16 Mexicans he held at gunpoint while he waited for border patrol.

He goes on to say:

You can tell that I have mixed feelings about this. As a young man I thought I had seen poverty in America. I thought I knew what poverty was. I’d seen homeless people before. Not a lot, but I’d seen them. I didn’t know # [jacksquat from my own nose]

I strayed a little farther past the outskirts of town than most Americans travel and that is where I saw true poverty. I saw true fear, hunger and despair in the eyes of innocent children. I saw an old woman in her 70s holding a baby in one hand and a tin cup begging for coins in the other while her daughter and grand daughter were trying to hawk up some business in the whorehouse a few doors down the street. These people’s best days don’t even come close to our worst. I sympathize and empathize with them. I’ve seen how they live and I can understand their desperation. I understand why they are willing to risk their lives to cross our border to make a few dollars an hour picking beans and chilies on our farms. I hold no animosity toward these people at all. They are just people, who are a lot worse off than we are, trying to survive.

Having said all that, do I feel that they deserve a free ticket to the US? I don’t know. I don’t know that I even deserve to be here. I don’t know that you deserve to be here either. If I steal your car like our great great grandparents stole this land, do I deserve to keep it just because I have a bigger gun? Is posession really nine tenths of the law?

The final thought offered in this small essay by an American, privileged individual.
Open your eyes, people, please.

These are tuff economic times, not only in this country, but world wide. Does anyone really think that a laid off GM worker is going to pick lima beans for three or four dollars an hour? Who’s jobs are they really taking or are they actually doing work that Americans are to fat and spoiled to do?

I have no answers on this. I feel sorry for the rancher whose land and belongings are being ravaged and vandalized by these people. I feel sorry for the Mexicans because I’ve seen the horror they are trying to escape. I feel sorry for the Americans who feel they deserve the luxury of $5 cups of Starbucks coffee just because their forefathers sodomized the native American culture. I feel sorry. I feel sorry that I’m somehow part of it and I don’t have the answers. I am sorry.

Don't we owe it to the children of the world to help solve this mess?
Yes, the answer, is yes. We do.

In my god honest opinion those illegals should have become citizens before they had their child/ren here. I think it's great that their benefits have been cut, maybe then it would go to someone who is an actual citizen who needs the help.

I don't think we will ever advance as a society, a race, until we understand that everyone inhabits the SAME planet. We are ALL brothers and sisters, we face the same problems as one another, and must help one another if we want to rid this world of all the atrocities that we face. It breaks my heart seeing hungry people, poor people, war and disease stricken people when we HAVE the capability right NOW to feed every single person on this planet, house them, end all wars, cure diseases, to live happily, in peace. It doesn't matter which "boundaries" you live within, you are no different than anyone else on this planet. EVERYONE deserves to be helped. That's just mho and I will stick with that for as long as I live.

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Thank you for chiming in. I agree with you entirely.
peace

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I think it's great that their benefits have been cut, maybe then it would go to someone who is an actual citizen who needs the help.

It was the children who were receiving the benefits. NOT the parents. The CHILDREN are actual citizens.

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In fact you completely disregard the entire point made by Rush and consequently by me, that under Obamanomics, that many people are on food stamps. Thus any one who happens to be out of work, illegal or not, are struggling.

It wasn't Obama who caused this mess, friend. It was the corruption in the banking/investment industries, and the people who accepted loans that they knew they could not repay. It was the utter irresponsibility of those using a fiat currency to create a smoke-and-mirrors illusion of accumulating "wealth."

You are blaming one person for the actions of the racketeers that run the world. The bailouts were wrong. Congress and the Federal Reserve are dishonest charlatans. Obama is a tool of the shadow government, nothing more. A convenient scapegoat, put into office for exactly that purpose.

Do I believe in redistribution? Yes, I do. There is no reason on this earth that ANYONE should be starving.
And ANYONE who points a finger or ridicules without coming up with ideas for solutions is a part of the problem, in my opinion.

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You have been extremely rude to me the whole time, ridiculing all my positions, misrepresenting my positions, rewording my statements, calling me names, slamming me with insulting comments.

You quote a Tibetan Buddhist and yet you are mean spirited when your positions are challenged and you pull the guilt trip over Texas and California to boot.


Obama IS responsible for much of the economic chaos. The healthcare mess is going to further put us into debt because we cannot fund it and the costs are going to spiral out of control, it will end up worse than Social Security. I think if it continues without repeal we will eventually see the big mistake in Nanny Statism it really is.
Then there is the giving away of tax dollars to a socialist Brazilian oil compnay while putting our own oil rigs out of business. It is incomprehensible how people like you don't see the devastation this one man is causing with the help of other socialist Nanny Staters like Pelosi. And that's just part of what he has done.
I am not excusing Bush either, but I'm certain now with your positions that you didn't mind his spending on entitlements either.

I will agree with you that the banking industry is corrupt and has contributed greatly to the general downfall of the world economy.
So maybe we can just agree on that one point.

Originally posted by apollo7keep
I agree with your points about how bad a situation it is for these people, and how they are coming to this country out of desperation. However, my question to you is why is it right for them to dump their problems onto U.S. citizens? If they were in such a destitute situation, I would think the only logical thing, if they cared about their family so much, would be to not have children in the first place! What right do they have to come to a foreign country, have a child, and then demand that every citizen of said foreign country takes care of their children? I hope other states follow Kansas' lead on this issue.

+1 on that...why not arrest the parents, take the kids to...put on bus headed south...drop off at border...Send bill to there native country for what it cost us to deport them...if they don't pay....close border completely...and do this...
Personally I think we should have a 300 yard mined kill zone...if your in it and not passing through to the USA the correct way, you should be shot...If any of us entered Mexico illegally, we would be thrown in a Mexican jail...you ever been in one of those? In every country I can think of, you get jailed for being there illegally...except for maybe Canada.
In some places husbands can kill there wives or children....if they dishonor them...
We need to take care of Americans first...let the other countries worry about there people

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
If you want illegal mexican immigrants to stop jumping borders to the U.S., you make mexico safe for their people and help them build their economy to maximize their potential. The root of their problems are the massive amounts of drug cartels that terrorize the people for power and wealth. After you take down the drug cartels...

Um... Take down one cartel and three crop up in its place. The whole idea of "taking down the drug cartels" is absurd. The only way We can end Their reign is by making drugs (ALL of them) legal. Either by passing "laws" or getting rid of the need for money in all its forms through free energy (do a search here for "electrogravitics Amaterasu" to grasp that We have the tech hidden and why free energy will end the need for money).

...you stabilize their government and ...

Not as long as drugs offer the lure of money.