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Originally posted by OhZone
Originally posted by colbe
FlyersFan,
I wish people would see God's plan as He has laid it out. All those
thinking oh yes, abortion is evil but there's nothing wrong with
Birth Control. To everybody who misunderstands God's teaching
on birth control. I am not making fun, it's God's choice, He decides
life and death. That's easy.
Would you like to tell us exactly how you know "God's plan"?
Where exactly does God say that abortion is evil?
Belief Systems are and have always been higly irrational.
When the results of anyone's Belief System encroaches upon the lives of other people their rights end.
If they have not the common sense to stop then government has to step in to stop them.
This is where the Constituion should be amended. That "free practice" of relligion is being abused to the detriment of the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness of others.
Yes, the world is overpopulated. Yes, the US is overpopulated. We are running out of room for our garbage.
Stuff in the Landfill areas are leaching into the ground water.
Our sewage systems are unable to properly process all that comes into them resulting in much overflow into our rivers, lakes and oceans. ALL of our waterways are polluted. There is no stream, even in the wildest wild that is safe to drink.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
[quoteOriginally posted by Annee
It is a hospital - - with specific purpose to treat the sick.
I would hate to think employment was based on religious belief.
Originally posted by colbe
The world isn't overpopulated, that is a myth. Everyone in the world
can fit into the state of Texas.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by colbe
The world isn't overpopulated, that is a myth. Everyone in the world
can fit into the state of Texas.
This is just PURE ignorance!
If all we did was stand shoulder to shoulder, then yeah, we wouldn't take up much room. But what about our resources? What about all it takes to live? Crops, landfills, fresh water, shelters, stores, cities... A growing population becomes unsustainable.
You should get your head out of the bible and read some facts for a change. The world is overpopulated and will not sustain the growing population.
Originally posted by anthonygillespie2012
U.S. Churches groups forced to give Birth Control by Government
us.m.yahoo .com
(visit the link for the full news article)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Obama administration on Friday ruled that religiously affiliated nonprofit organizations, including hospitals and universities, will have to offer birth-control coverage to women employees but gave the organizations an extra year to comply.
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Originally posted by HattoriHanzou
"The government's decision does not apply to churches, synagogues, mosques, temples and some religiously-affiliated elementary and secondary schools, which remain exempt."
From the article.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
A Catholic hospital is a social service provider, not a church.
Originally posted by vogon42
This thread is about NON-christian rights being trampled by christian people.
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by SplitInfinity
It may be that I don't understand the issue either. I'm always confused.
Your post makes a powerful statement for the idea that the state has the right to require churches to do this. It may be that the question will be examined by the Supreme Court, but let's assume for the moment that you're correct and that will continue to be the applicable regulation. (And as you know, regulations are easily changed.)
But is it the right thing to do? Remember that Obama received the majority of Catholic votes in '08, it doesn't look so easy in 2012. Even the liberal Catholic Bishops and Cardinals are upset with him about this. Their parishoners won't be happy, but the Republicans will be when they pick up those extra voters.
Secondly, and something that Obama usually forgets, what will be the results of this decision? Either the leaders of the Church go against their beliefs on a question of grave moral error, or......
The best guess now is that they stop providing any insurance at all. This means Obamacare has to pick up these new people. It also means that the church-run hospital will be fined. The hospital will have less money to operate with and will start shutting down services, maybe closing entirely. More people on Obamacare, fewer resources to treat them. Is there anything good that comes out of this?
Originally posted by DaMod
Well some religious organizations view the use of birth control as a sin.. Therefore offering this would circumvent their baseline doctrines..
I understand all individuals here supporting the use of birth control but forcing religious organizations to go against their core beliefs is a violation of the 1st amendment. Sad but true.
Originally posted by colbe
Here are BHO's lying words spoken at Notre Dame. Shame on whoever
invited Obama to speak. Notre Dame is a Catholic college in name only.
= = =
In his May 2009 speech, President Obama expressed a desire to “work through these conflicts” over issues like abortion and stem cells, in order to “join hands in common effort.”
“Maybe we won’t agree on abortion,” the president proposed. “Let’s honor the conscience of those who disagree with abortion and draft a sensible conscience clause and make sure that all of our health-care policies are grounded in clear ethics and sound science, as well as respect for the equality of women.”
Read more: www.ncregister.com...
Originally posted by anthonygillespie2012
U.S. Churches groups forced to give Birth Control by Government
us.m.yahoo .com
(visit the link for the full news article)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Obama administration on Friday ruled that religiously affiliated nonprofit organizations, including hospitals and universities, will have to offer birth-control coverage to women employees but gave the organizations an extra year to comply.
Related News Links:
Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
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Originally posted by colbe
Can't be compared to birth
control and abortion, both involve murder.
Originally posted by DaMod
Well some religious organizations view the use of birth control as a sin.. Therefore offering this would circumvent their baseline doctrines..