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Originally posted by The Sword
... instead of getting all worked up over the fact that others don't share their worship of an invisible deity.
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by colbe
If children are such a blessing, why are so many born into broken homes to irresponsible (or in some cases, non-existent) parents?
American society is full of people who treat children like commodities or expressions of their own sick and twisted views. It doesn't matter if they're a churchie or godless liberal. They're all one and the same when it comes to using their own children as pawns.
If life is so precious, why does war exist?
If life is so precious, why are the poor treated like dirt?
If life is so precious, why don't these religious types flinch when people are blown to bits everyday in Iraq or Aghanistan?
Originally posted by anthonygillespie2012
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by colbe
If children are such a blessing, why are so many born into broken homes to irresponsible (or in some cases, non-existent) parents?
American society is full of people who treat children like commodities or expressions of their own sick and twisted views. It doesn't matter if they're a churchie or godless liberal. They're all one and the same when it comes to using their own children as pawns.
If life is so precious, why does war exist?
If life is so precious, why are the poor treated like dirt?
If life is so precious, why don't these religious types flinch when people are blown to bits everyday in Iraq or Aghanistan?
Are you in another country? Why are you so anti American? No this is not an anti American discussion and not everyone in America's society is the same.
Every country's society has a problem, don't just say America.edit on 22-1-2012 by anthonygillespie2012 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FlyersFan
I"m all for secular laws running the country, but the fact is that the laws pushing religious organizations to provide birth control are unconstitutional and interfere with those institutions right to freedom of religion.
This is a case where the government is overstepping and interfering with religious freedom.
The legislation doesn't have a right to dictate religious beliefs or practices.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
If someone works at a Catholic hospital and wants birth control covered by their work insurance, then they need to find a job elsewhere. Catholic hospitals are just that ... CATHOLIC ... and therefore it is expected that they will follow Catholic beliefs.
The plan is to force Catholic hospitals to provide it.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Wouldn't YOU be trampling on the rights of Catholics by forcing them to go against their beliefs?
Forcing them to do that when all you have to do is work elsewhere and leave 'em alone?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
You don't think people have a right to freedom of religion?
You don't think people have a right to freedom FROM the government intruding on their beliefs?
Originally posted by colbe
The Church has not changed on her teachings.
Contraception is an intrinsic evil. God decides life and death.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
This law requires Blue Cross/Blue Shield (and other providers) to include birth control as preventative care with no copay. It has nothing to do with religious organizations providing birth control.
Whose religious freedom is being interfered with?
In this case, St Joseph's Hospital can no longer USE religion to restrict certain medical benefits from their employees.
A nurse who takes a job at St. Joseph's should have the same benefits in preventative health care with BCBS as they would working at another hospital or university.
It's actually taking religion OUT of the law.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
But it does not include freedom to discriminate, nor does it include freedom to control other people.
"Intruding on their beliefs"? What does that mean? They are free to believe whatever they want AND they are free to practice their religion, they just are not free to USE that religion to control the behavior of others.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
You mean all the employees of a Catholic hospital are practicing Catholics?
The hospitals don't provide it. The insurance companies do...
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Forcing them to do WHAT? What is this forcing Catholics to do?