Life Spotted on Venus - Russian Scientist

I find this to be highly unlikely, but I certainly would love for this to be true. Once we do find extraterrestrial life (single-celled or not), it will change the world in amazing ways (I hope).

reply to post by DJW001


Does the rover dig because it looks like the earth has been distrubed between the two pictures.

reply to post by purplemer


If you allow me to answer, the pictures are not from the same side. Look at the horizon also, it is not the same.

reply to post by NowanKenubi


Maybe the rover ran the object over and made it flip. It is a shame we cannot see the rest of the images.

reply to post by purplemer


That's where it becomes interesting. Since the foreground is different, it could be that it is 2 broken parts, that fell on each side of the probe, or it is something that walked its way to the other shot... And that is the belief of theis Russian scientist.

There is talk of other pictures showing some other creatures, but I only found one that is intriguing, but can't make anything of it...

reply to post by Josonic


Absolutely, and I expect it in my lifetime.

Here's a book foreword on that theme, that I wrote last year:

www.jamesoberg.com...

reply to post by NowanKenubi

That's where it becomes interesting. Since the foreground is different, it could be that it is 2 broken parts, that fell on each side of the probe, or it is something that walked its way to the other shot... And that is the belief of theis Russian scientist.

There were two cameras, one on either side of the landers. The crescent shaped objects are the cameras' damaged lens caps.

Originally posted by Josonic
I find this to be highly unlikely, but I certainly would love for this to be true. Once we do find extraterrestrial life (single-celled or not), it will change the world in amazing ways (I hope).

It will unify the people of Earth like never before, IMO.

Originally posted by purplemer
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Maybe the rover ran the object over and made it flip. It is a shame we cannot see the rest of the images.

There was no rover, it just plopped down and lasted about two hours. There were two opposite-facing cameras.

You can see the lens cover in all four Venera=13 and -14 views, but in one of them it's hard to find.

There's horse on Venus?

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by DJW001


Do you know what shape the cameras had? It may seem silly, but since we only see two half circles, for two cameras, where are the other two? Were they left on the probe?

Interesting topic!

I've no idea what we are looking at in the pics posted by DJW, but the idea that it is part of the probe seem to be a bit weird. When I say "weird", I don't mean that it's weird because it can't be that (broken parts of the probe), I find it weird that the astronomer quoted in the OP didn't come to that conclusion given the evidence about the broken lenses etc.

So if it is indeed a part of the probe we are looking at, we must assume that the astronomer (i'm not even going to attempt to spell his name) must realise that too. So why the statements given? What's his motive?

I would even go as far as saying that the 2 "crescents" are not the same object (look at the "jagged" edge, it's not the same in the 2 pics), unless this object that we are looking at can 'shape shift'.


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As for the pic posted by NowanKenubi (see above), I again have no idea (surprise suprise!), but I assume this is the object reffered to as "the flap" in the OP. It does look to be vaguely familiar - it looks kind of like a translucent virus under a microscope.

There should be another image of this object (assuming that this object is indeed the one talked about in the OP, and not just a random picture added to an article to give it false 'weight'), that should show that it moved from one location to another. That might give us a better idea of what we are looking at. It would be nice to see the whole picture as well, as this one appears to be cropped. Anyone having any luck finding the corresponding image or an uncropped image?


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So if we have seen "the crescent" and "the flap", has anyone located pictures of "the scorpion" yet?

here is a link to some of the images that have been processed.

mentallandscape.com...

I know they are different, but if you check the images, it looks to me that some part has broken off one of those legs.

Shame, I would love this to have been true

Originally posted by DJW001
But, yes, it is definitely a shattered titanium lens cap.

Curious... what forces were involved in "shattering a titanium lens cap"

Ever try to break that stuff? or cut it?

reply to post by zorgon


Don't you know? Venus is the planet of females!

No titanium caps will ever hold there... erm...

reply to post by zorgon

Curious... what forces were involved in "shattering a titanium lens cap

Venus' atmosphere is nearly 100 times denser than Earth's, with a mean temperature over 400 degrees Celsius. The wind can gust up to 400 km/hr. That might have something to do with it. As I said:

reply to post by DJW001


Look to one of my previous post. It is said that there is almost no winds on the surface.
On the pictures, you can see dust slowly accumulating, but nothing seemingly violent.

This one, with the link to the quote.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by zorgon

 

Curious... what forces were involved in "shattering a titanium lens cap

Venus' atmosphere is nearly 100 times denser than Earth's, with a mean temperature over 400 degrees Celsius. The wind can gust up to 400 km/hr. That might have something to do with it. As I said:

DJW, those gusts are in the upper atmosphere. The Russian probes, and NASA's, detected virtually NO horizontal motion at the surface, at about half a dozen different landing sites. Go check your info source, please.

reply to post by JimOberg


Hey Jim.


Given your background, what do you make of the astronomers statements? Particularly in regard to the crescent shaped object.


I find it very, very odd that given the shape, the evidence of failed mechanics and components etc and the likely hood of the object being part of the probe, that the astronomer quoted in the OP came to another conclusion entirely (and a pretty damned bold conclusion at that!).

What do people in the same field as this guy make of him? He must be pretty intelligent to be in the position proffesionally he was in, but he sounds like a complete nut job (i'm not talking about his statements on big planets next to the sun, as I don't know the science behind that, and won't pretend to), so what gives?

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

I was wondering wouldnt they be able to identify this peice if it was from Earth, also thanks for the NASA photos

Just to be clear, the US never had a probe successfully land on the surface of Venus. We can thank the Russian space agency for much of the information we know about Venus and all of the surface images.

Welcome to Venera: The Soviet Exploration of Venus.