Q&A Session with John Lear

Hey big guy ! A shame you even have to justify your actions , but nice of you to do so . Kinda wierd to see this happening while you take the role that so many others have taken in my short time here (skeptic) .

I thought ATS was about comparing notes and sharing knowledge as well as the often needed debunking . Coulda pulled the plug and ended things long ago , but you didn't.....

Some people are fiercely proud of their belief in even the most absurd notions , and close the brain gate to anything other than an agreement .

I think you look out for the integrity that this place needs to have to avoid becoming a science fiction forum .

Not a sad day , just a difference of opinions .

Skeptisism is good in this day and age . We would be cattle without the ability to make up our own minds ( or maybe that's republicans instead of cattle) .

oddtodds 2 cents

Originally posted by jumpspace
And responded by telling Kano (blah blah)

And no you didn't.

(If you reply to the warning u2u it goes to 'FORUM STAFF' or whoever the 'From' field is in the u2u, noone recieves it, you have to reply to the staff member in question.)

It nice to see how retarted some can be, makes me feel good about myself.
THANKS!


Why is this thread going on? SO, you have nothing to prove, you have done nothing, that you wouldnt have another member do. You are ATS, so dont let these bad apples get to you.

I always thought Simon Gray was ATS. Or is Simon SO? Or is Masked Avatar Simon? and SO is William? Or is William SO?

* Walks out Scratching head mumbling about Tin Foil Beenies *

Originally posted by Janus
I always thought Simon Gray was ATS. Or is Simon SO? Or is Masked Avatar Simon? and SO is William? Or is William SO?

* Walks out Scratching head mumbling about Tin Foil Beenies *

Simon and SO, are ATS, cant have it with out both.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Originally posted by Janus
I always thought Simon Gray was ATS. Or is Simon SO? Or is Masked Avatar Simon? and SO is William? Or is William SO?

* Walks out Scratching head mumbling about Tin Foil Beenies *

Simon and SO, are ATS, cant have it with out both.

He he, i was just funnin you Cobra. Of course ATS would not exist without the two.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra Why is this thread going on?

To show we are always interested in the truth, no matter how ugly that search may get. We make mistakes... we know that. And if/when that happens, we want to know what members think about it. No one learns anything from brushing unsavory events under the carpet. Our motives were 100% for the betterment of ATS, nothing more, nothing less. We certainly should have noticed this thread sooner, worked harder to confirm Mr. Lear's identity in a non-public way, and had better control over the flow of discussion (for both our members and Mr. Lear). These observations would not have come from quickly locking or modifying the thread as soon as it became ugly.

S.O. ,

You can hardly act as the offended party, as you were, by definition, the offender. Now don't get me wrong, I know why you had to make a response in this thread, I respect that you had to say something. But I think again, you could have responded with more tact. Rather than try to discuss TOS semantics and tout yourself as a wronged party, you could have just as easily said that you felt the actions were needed, but you'll take this situation into account for future moderation duties, still saving face and restating your postition.

Why you chose to take the route of "victim" is beyond me. But if that's truly your position, I can hardly say I respect what you've said. I was hoping you'd respond with more tact than you did.

I do like ATS, and I've even agreed with you in other threads(even if in quiet), but this was all handled poorly.

Maybe I should disclaim that these above words are my opinion, nah, that'd be too "over-the-top" eh?

TS

I know people like to assign blame in situations like this but it seems inappropriate to do so in this case. The administration of this site were merely attempting to verify his identity because we get many people claiming to be people they aren�t, and it seems John Lear was reluctant in providing proof of his identity and quick to leave the discussion.

You aren�t seeing both sides of the issue. No one party is to blame; the most we can hope for is an understanding of how this thing happened and an attempt to prevent it from repeating in the future. SkepticOverlord is bending over backwards to understand and rectify the problem. NO ONE PERSON IS TO BLAME.

For those wishing to resume questions and read my opinions I am on ufo-forums.com. Thanks.

Heheheh, that hurt

John,

You should consider providing proof of your identity to the ATS administration and resuming your discussion on this site. This is the largest most active conspiracy discussion board on the internet; it would be a shame not to utilize it.

Originally posted by kinglizard
John,

You should consider providing proof of your identity to the ATS administration and resuming your discussion on this site. This is the largest most active conspiracy discussion board on the internet; it would be a shame not to utilize it.

I will be happy to prove my identity but Iwill not posting anything to do with UFO's or aliens on ATS. I will be posting on other ATS threads as usual. Please email the picture of your choice to [email protected], I will email you back a picture displaying your picture on my monitor with me in the background in my den. Visible on the wall behind me will be FAI and NAA Certificates for 17 world speed records I held in the Lear Jet. Also visible will be the letter Gen. James H. Doolittle sent to me wishing me speedy recovery from a serious plane crash near Geneva, Switzerland in 1961; between the two paged letter is a picture of Doolittle taking of from the carrier Hornet on his way to bomb Tokyo. Also in the background is a shadow box with wings from the 25 or 30 airlines I have flown for during my career. Next to that is a glass display case with a 1/2 scale model of the anti-matter reactor/propulsion system of the alien flying saucer that Bob Lazar worked on up at S-4. Further to the right, if its in frame, is the commendation from the Department of the Air Force to the company I worked for delivering Cessna O-2's to Viet Nam for 4 years. You'll also need to know from an independant source what I look like.

[edit on 19-9-2004 by johnlear]

Mr. Lear,

I'm sure you can see that many are not happy with what has transpired here. I will be following up your interesting view of our world and current universal situation on the other forum you mentioned, I'm certain others will want to as well.

TS

Thank you John, the image is on its way to you now.

Well it seems the e mail adress is is real enough, here is a link with some pictures apparantly sent from the email address provided to us. included is a pic of Mr Lear.

Pictures from [email protected]

John has already prooved his identity to someone (a skeptic that didnt believe it was him) in this thread already.
No need to really ask any more questions since he has already stated he wont talk about alien/ufo topics here anymore.

Originally posted by SMR
John has already prooved his identity to someone (a skeptic that didnt believe it was him) in this thread already.
No need to really ask any more questions since he has already stated he wont talk about alien/ufo topics here anymore.

I understand that but doubt has been raised, and not everyone has seen the picture. The least we could do is let Mr Lear prove to everyone he is who he says he is.

Ok I have just received an email containing evidence that John Lear is who he says he is. I have something to tend to right now, as soon as i'm done I will post the information.

btw - John gave me his permission to share this with you.

He already sent someone an e-mail proving he is who he said he is before all the scuttle butt with SO. I'd like to go ahead and see it though.