12 girls in New York suddenly come down with spasm, Federal Health Law prevents disclosure of diseas

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by Gridrebel

 

Yup, doctors and parents told to keep quiet is really suspicious. This is most likely vaccine related, it's pretty obvious in my opinion. I could be wrong but what else could cause the same illness in 12 girls who have no association?

It's probably Gardasil or the flu shot that did this.

My first guess is Gardasil. No males were afflicted it seems. Maybe the real purpose of Gardasil is to render young women unable to bear children.

reply to post by badkittie748


When did the schools begin mandating flu shots? Oh never mind, I think I remember the whole H1N1 thing and school kids getting in line. We did this with oral Polio vaccine and I was only 7.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by Gridrebel

 

Yup, doctors and parents told to keep quiet is really suspicious. This is most likely vaccine related, it's pretty obvious in my opinion. I could be wrong but what else could cause the same illness in 12 girls who have no association?

It's probably Gardasil or the flu shot that did this.

This sudden? I think it's probably something like Mercury poisoning if it isn't some strange bacterial infection/virus.

However, if it were a bad vaccine batch (as many flu vaccines still have themerisol (mercury) adjutants in them), that had a lot of mercury, I'm sure that our CORPORATE-Friendly government would rush in and make sure nobody caused a backlash against a large company that pays lots of politicos campaign funds.

We don't have a system anymore that can look out for the common good -- and I think THAT more than anything else, has given rise to so many conspiracy theories.

>> IN a real Democracy, the priority would be on public information, and if some company were wrongly damaged -- their might be a safety net and a public service announcement. But what we see, is court ordered silence and people left in the dark - the next automatic step, is that if any conspiracy theories take hold, to discredit and ridicule the theorists.

Not that Conspiracy Theories aren't OFTEN full of hot air -- but they wouldn't be so company if our government had a handle on our corporations and transparency RULED us. Non-transparency is evidence of collusion and a police state.


>> My own theory of the reason that Vaccines don't show a direct connection with many allergies and things like autism, is because the Vaccine is indirectly causing the problem. What I think is going on, that will defy normal procedures of epidemiology to detect it -- is that the "adjutants" in Vaccines are blunt instruments. Whatever payload your vaccine is being used to inform your immune system about has to have OTHER JUNK that makes your immune system raise an alarm -- otherwise, your immune system would be reacting to every bit of dirt and speck of dust in your environment -- which it isn't. Small attacks are ignored. Only when there is a real invasion is the general alarm sent out and the immune system responds (sounds like the Opposite with our nations "war on terror" don't you think?).

Vaccines may be causing allergies and autism BECAUSE they are given to kids before they are 9 months old -- before the blood-brain barrier develops and children are introduced to new foods and histamines. How does your immune system tell the difference between the first peanut and the polio virus? I doesn't.

Autism might be an interaction in strange cases where seratonin (an important brain transmitter) producing bacteria in the gut create a low-level histamine while a kid is getting immunized. From then on, when large batches of these bacteria grow, or die off (all part of what creates the bio-rythm cycle in animals), the immune system will treat it as if it were Polio, Measles or anything else that caused the general alarm. You look like a terrorist -- people freak out on the airplane! The immune system attacks any levels of key ingredients for healthy mental activity that rise above a certain threshold and little Johnny stays at a 4-year-old level of concentration.

The PRO Vaccine people, fear that everyone will stop being vaccinated -- so they scream at anyone proposing a link. There is no money in investigating and some drug company might crush you. The reasonable CURE might be to stop immunizing kids until after they are a year old; pandemics are averted and a huge reduction in allergies and strange mental disabilities. Everybody but the drug companies and Monsanto are happy.

You see the problem, right? Compromise and rationality are leaving this nation.


>> I have NO IDEA yet what caused this particular event -- it could even be a slow news day at Fox, and freak situations get chained together and people think it's an epidemic when this stuff has quietly happened for hundreds of years. Stuff happens.

I do know that my son one day collapsed from an airborne pathogen and his lungs couldn't take in oxygen. It was sudden, out of the blue, and we were lucky we treated it quickly. To this day, we don't have a clue what caused it and neither do the doctors other than; sometimes these bacteria or viral infections stop kids lungs from working.

They at least know how to stabilize a patient until their bodies can fight it off.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by lynn112

 

sanevax.org...

At least Finland hasn't sold out, perhaps I should move there.

Hey CE... you might want to hold the moving van. There is a user comment in your link about those checks in the mail:

Typically, they use every opportunity to avoid paying compensation for vaccine injuries. Possibility for payment is always minimal, takes many years of discussion and if anything at all is paid the amount is pathetically small. As usual the situation is unfortunately that many sufferers and their carers will instead be propped full of psychiatric medicines.

Seems they in the same boat as we. Damn the Powers That Be that be holdin the key to our health and financial stability.

I wonder what the current "tally" is measuring those whose lives have been saved by the vaccines vs. those whose have been ruined by it?

Are these vaccines preemptive ? As far as I know there is no current plague outbreak (except all the STD's and cancer and stuff)

Food for Thought.

Over the last few decades I have increased my intake of Mt Dew. On some day/night gaming binges I can easily drink 8-12 litres of Mt dew. There was a few years that I do not think I even drank any water.
In the past 7 years I have had my hands and feet "explode" in blisters. (looks like I put them in boiling water)
Several dozen "spider bite" looking lesions on my body.
A "tic" in my left hand/arm and even 2 full blown spasms, on the floor flaying about.

The tic and spasm all happened in a 45 day period and I have not experienced these before or after this time.

Numerous tests by doctors showed that I have no neurological problems, did not get bit by spiders and did not have staph or MRSA. All my conditions, separately, were "undiagnosed"



Last month I ran across an article at the Scientfic American website. One paragraph really caught my attention:

After a few extreme soda binges—not too far from what many gamers regularly consume—a few patients have needed medical attention for skin lesions, memory loss and nerve disorders, all symptoms of overexposure to bromine. Other studies suggest that BVO could be building up in human tissues, just like other brominated compounds such as flame retardants. In mouse studies, big doses caused reproductive and behavioral problems.

Scientific American

Doing some research on Bromide and Bromism I have concluded that Bromide is the culprit and just yesterday had my doctor test for Bromism.
Whether I have Bromism or not, matters little to this thread, but let us look at the Neurological symptoms from Bromism:

Neurological abnormalities of "all kinds" occur, including headache, tremor, slurred speech, spontaneous movements, incoordination, ataxia (abnormal gait), tendon reflex changes (increased or decreased reflexes), and extensor plantar responses (abnormal reflexes that signify "upper motor neuron" disease, disease in the brain or spinal cord that affects nerve signaling to the muscles) (Horowitz, 1997; Fried and Malek-Ahmadi, 1975; Wacks, Oster, et al., 1990; Carney, 1973). Vision changes have included decreased visual acuity often in conjunction with enlarged and poorly reacting pupils; disturbances of color perception, photophobia (abnormal sensitivity to light), micropsia and macropsia (perception of things as smaller or larger than they are), blurring of vision, and the quite characteristic mydriasis (enlarged pupils) (Levin, 1960; Kunze, 1976).

Bromism
(warning: above link goes to .mil website)

tremor, spontaneous movements, incoordination, ataxia (abnormal gait), tendon reflex changes (increased or decreased reflexes), and extensor plantar responses (abnormal reflexes that signify "upper motor neuron" disease, disease in the brain or spinal cord that affects nerve signaling to the muscles)

Thats just the neurological symptoms, which sound like what these girls are going through.

I am not a medical "expert", but with my personal experience, and recent found knowledge, I conclude that many "undiagnosed" reports, of this kind, can directly be linked to Bromide.

Again, Just FOOD for thought.

reply to post by MRuss

It is quite possible that it is Gardisil.

I don't think I have heard anyone say something about birth control. Considering the ages of the girls I am almost leaning towards a possible shot or something else for birth control. It could also be something to do with a combination flu shot and Gardisil and/or Birth control and this combination in the girls caused this reaction.

I only say this because the girls have to give consent for even their parents to know what is wrong if the doctors know. It is the only reason I could think of they would want to save the families from shame or whatever was said when they sited HIPPA.

Originally posted by badkittie748
reply to post by mutantgenius

 

Gardasil could most definitely NOT be the only cause here, all over the world people have been having bad reactions to vaccines and in particular the Flu shot - as they are all female victims, it would be easy to say "Gardasil" but they are giving Gardasil to BOYS now too, so why are the boys not affected??? beacuse of the recent outbreak of Human to Human transmission of Swine flu i would hazard a guess that the flu shot would be to blame.. is it not standard practice for schools to require flu shots now that the Avian and Swine flu's respectively are starting to mutate and become transmissible between humans??? it makes perfect sense to my brain...

Your absolutely right, it could be anything. Any number of vaccines or a bad batch. Environmental causes, virus, etc..

They aren't really pushing Gardasil for boys yet, they just put the idea out there as far as I know, I could be wrong. The fact that they are all girls in the right age group led me to that suspicion.

Gardasil is available for girls over 8 (yes....8....even though you cannot get HPV until sexually active) Like I said, I have had my own symptoms since being vaccinated with Gardasil, both reproductive and nerve problems. I did look into it a bit and there is a group out there trying to fight bigpharma on this and as much as I would like to tell my own story on there I cannot be sure that Gardasil was the cause of my symptoms. Although the symptoms are very similar to what others are experiencing.

I found the news article to be very non-descript about who knows what about the cause and diagnosis of these young ladies. I don't think we will find out unless the parents come forth really hard against the DOH, FDA or similar group.

I did notice however that alot of other people on the forum deduced the same as I did. Preliminarily.

reply to post by Pervius

For sure if they want ME to pay the bill for MY minor child they'd be telling ME what the diganosis is. If I can't know.... I won't pay!

Sounds like a reaction to a vaccine.

hmm.... i'm still leaning toward gardasill. possibly that along WITH the flu shot. a new strain of flu shot along with their first or second dose of gardasil.... that really could send a system over the top. viruses are strange things. mixing a man made virus (in the gardasil) with a live virus (in the flu vax)..... seems like a bad idea to me.

wait.... wasn't the H1N1 vaccine responsible for a number of cases of Guillian-Barre????

maybe it was specifically the H1N1 vaccine mixed with Gardasil?? not just any old flu shot. i wonder if they all got their flu shots from the same doctor or clinic.

there is NO WAY this is random and 12 girls all in one area wound up like this due to coincidence. they only reason they would be so hush hush about something like this is if they knew the screwed up.

aaaakkkk!!! this article REALLY sounds bad!!

thedailynewsonline.com...

“None of us know from talking to doctors what caused it,” one man said. “Don’t say you know, because you don’t. We don’t.”

Young said that not all the families agreed with the diagnosis but he reiterated that “I can tell you that 11 of 12 have been diagnosed.”

“We talked to the neurologist case-by-case,” he said. “Not all the families agreed with what was said, but she did share the diagnosis. It’s not just coincidental. There is a cluster. There’s no question that what we are seeing here is unexpected.”

He said there was nothing anyone can do to prevent further cases from happening “if people are predisposed to it.”

State health officials were contacted in September after several girls in the high school began showing “neurological symptoms,” Young said.

Young said the symptoms and situation were “very significant.”

reply to post by Gridrebel

They have ruled out all environmental factors, infections and the possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning.

They also ruled out Gardasil. .....Sure.

....They said cases like this have been seen nationwide and they come and go in individuals. They add it's not uncommon to see them in waves as stress and anxiety exacerbate them.

Nationwide clusters? Sounds like an epidemic to me. Also - the 2 main diseases that flare-up and regress are retroviruses and prion diseases - vaccines are commonly contaminated with prions, and (you guessed it) retroviruses. No doubt those pesky little suckers have learned how to team it. Ain't evolution wonnerful?

RE: HIPAA

The whole point of centralizing health data electronically was to benefit the public. My question: How do we the public benefit when we are not informed?

....Protecting privacy my Aunt Fanny's big fat butt. This is taking the censorship of scientific information to a whole new level.

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reply to post by Raxoxane

Parent isn't allowed to know what's killing their kid, but they will gladly send you the bills. I tell ya this country is all ass backwards.

heres the latest


interesting how theres no interest on the subject when its not front page ats

seems not to get the attention of the bots around here


but here we go

latest local news stories


www.democratandchronicle.com...

www.whec.com...


in my opinion after reading the d and c article, its very clear theres a very serious cover up taking place here

the vaccine focus needs to stop and a demand must be met to allow the community to learn the truth

now the parents are stating the drs are diagnosing it as caused by stress, the drs are going on the news and making statements against the parents calling them liars


12 girls can not get these symptoms just from stress in one community

the parents telling us one thing, the drs completely saying the opposite

something very bad is going on here, we need more attention to it

and we MUST stop the vaccine thing, even if it is the vaccine, we get no where making baseless claims, we need a REAL investigation to take place before more are hurt by whatever caused this!

when parents ask questions, when drs lie on tv, we have serious issues that MUST be dealt with immediately!

reply to post by abovesecret


Thanks for posting, I was not aware of this interview.

Regrettably the video isn't working for me, is it working for you?

The article does say:

Both told Ann Curry that they were angry. Their mothers said they have not been shown the data about tests on the school and that some of the information being released is not correct.

The girls said they have been told the illness was induced by stress, but that they didn't know of anything stressful that could have caused it.

Typically, doctors don't like to talk to the media about specific cases, and legally, they often can't; this case is no different. But all the attention — and what their doctors say is misinformation — has led them to say what they can to calm the community's fears.

Dr. Laszlo Mechler, vice president of the DENT Nuerologic Institute, was one of the first doctors to meet with the girls. He and Dr. Jennifer McVige, a pediatric neurologist who is also the teenagers' primary physician, said they wanted to speak on camera to help clear up any confusion.

In an interview Monday afternoon, 2 On Your Side's Sarah Hopkins asked Dr. Mechler, "Specifically, what comments that have been made in the media do you want to clarify?"

Dr. Mechler: Some of the, and it's understandable, some of the comments coming from the frustrated parents. ... I think one is that nothing has been done, we don't know what's going on. These comments. We know exactly what is going on, we know exactly how we should treat it, part of it is just the natural course of the illness."

Their attempt at censorship and damage control does not appear to be going as planned. I knew from the get go this was a cover up and this just confirms it

Even though it is old news, I just found this:

www.13wham.com...

" Le Roy, N.Y. - James Dupont says he doesn't care what they call this illness, he needs to know what caused his daughter to get so sick, she cannot control herself.

Dupont says the neurologist treating the teens told some parents the girls have Conversion Disorder. That's a neurological illness that includes symptoms like seizures and paralysis of bodily functions."

I have continued to look because this story is so horrendous. The article also says that Dupont doesn't believe the "diagnosis" and that his daughter is receiving steroid shots and muscle relaxers to alleviate her symptoms, but he doesn't feel like she is getting better.

IMO, it appears that although the State Health Department has ruled out several causes of the illness including drugs and environmental issues, they want to use the "Conversion Disorder" as a catch all, kind of like ADD.

All right people. Dop you really believe it is not a vaccine.

Are you that ignorant/

We sit and drink the cool aid and wait.

We are so stupid.

This makes me sick.

This is how this whole story ends.

The girls are sick and will never get better.

The family will all recieve a huge settlement with a provision that they cannot discuss the matters with anyone.


WAnt to bet this is swept under the rug.

How much is it for one vaccine.

How many are injected anually.

how many get sick and die

We statistically speaking 5% die off is acceptable.
10 percent neuralogical disorders. Well that is acceptable also.

This is the way it is.

Wake the F up people.

Stop getting the gurdasil vax.

Are you that ignorant to theink tis is going to protect you kids from HPV.

Well keep drinking your cool aid.

Make you kid where a rubber or something.

How about you worry about HIV, Hep C gonnaria, clymidia and all those other nasty things out there.

Well they aint got not vax for that do they.

Well if you protect your self by wearing a condom you will not get the junk listed above.

WAKE up there is no magic bullet.

Stop drinking the coolaid people.

SCREAMING!
WAKEUP!!!

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


the videos are working sporadically it seems but to sum up what the parents and girls are saying is that

1. the doctors are telling the parents the diagnosis is stress
2. the parents dont believe it
3, the drs keep talking about hippa and how they cant talk even though the parents are
4. the drs keep saying its been diagnoses and treated, 1 doctor claims this is happening all around the world and in his opinion these symptoms will just go away soon
5. one mother claims the one girl has lost 20 lbs since the 1st symptom
6. tests have been done on the school where samples were taken from several different areas, sent to a lab, and all have come back normal
6. the media and the doctors are saying the girls are all seeing the same dr
7. 1 of the 2 parents interviewed claim that is false and that the girls are seeing different doctors
8. two different doctors were interviewed who both were seeing the girls
9. news 10nbc reporters report they have been getting calls all day, "the newsroom has been inundated with phone calls from around the country" with reports of the same symptoms happening to children and concerns of others wanting to know whats going on
10. the drs say they can not state what the diagnosis is due to hippa but they can tell you a few things that it is not, environmental, drugs and a few other things have been ruled out according to the drs speaking to the media

that pretty much sums up the vid and the latest news as of the 5 o clock news tonight tuesday

oh i guess they went on the today show, ill look for a link to that as i dont think its been posted yet


i cant find a link for the today show appearance but i wanted to note one other thing from when i saw the girls talk

its being reported as verbal outbursts, however the video shows audible outbursts not verbal

the girls dont seem to be actually speaking words during the "outbursts" like a small amount of tourrettes patients do, rather its simply an audible uncontrollable noise that is made, its sad to see especially knowing the fact its affecting 11 other girls also, and even worse since news 10 nbc is reporting they are getting calls from all over the nation reporting these problems and symptoms are more widespread then being exposed