Russian, French warships off Syria, Iran, US drones over Iranian coast

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
This got interesting. The Russians have the best missile technology and their supercavitating torpedoes are unstoppable. I surely know they have the ability to wreak havoc on the HMS Daring and perhaps a few US Naval vessels. The question is how much are they willing to side with Iran. Is this the beginning of the Gog-Magog war? Sure seems like it.

So when the Russians/Iranians land on the continental U.S., are you going to sympathize with them? Surely you would not, right? Just wondering from seeing all of your posts...

Originally posted by Clisen33

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
This got interesting. The Russians have the best missile technology and their supercavitating torpedoes are unstoppable. I surely know they have the ability to wreak havoc on the HMS Daring and perhaps a few US Naval vessels. The question is how much are they willing to side with Iran. Is this the beginning of the Gog-Magog war? Sure seems like it.

So when the Russians/Iranians land on the continental U.S., are you going to sympathize with them? Surely you would not, right? Just wondering from seeing all of your posts...

Maybe they will come in "saviors" like the US did in Irak
to save americans from their tyran regime that made many international war crimes

and dont forget China .. they can literaly put millions of soldier in each US cities
to eliminate any terrorist that would try to harm their soldiers

Is it time to get out the bong and start counting down the already slow minutes?

HMS Daring has some engine problems LMAO (although the pic is not the HMS daring):

www.presstv.ir...

Earlier, on Saturday, British media outlets widely covered a report by the Daily Telegraph, saying that the Royal Navy is to send its “most formidable warship HMS Daring” to the Persian Gulf region for its first mission. Those outlets tried to paint a grand picture of a warship touted as the most advanced of its kind in the world with extreme radar tracking and maneuvering capabilities that bumped against a tug on her way to the Southampton port in September 2010. The much-talked-about warship was damaged as it could not even get around the tug, which lost power to its engines, blocking the warship.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
This got interesting. The Russians have the best missile technology and their supercavitating torpedoes are unstoppable. I surely know they have the ability to wreak havoc on the HMS Daring and perhaps a few US Naval vessels. The question is how much are they willing to side with Iran. Is this the beginning of the Gog-Magog war? Sure seems like it.

Given the fact this whole scenario of events was predictable in the Gog/Magog context years ago....while the mechanics of it we're seeing come to pass were TOTALLY UNTHINKABLE until very recently..nothing would surprise me at this point.

Imagine being told 5 years ago..or even better, in the year 2000, that we'd stand here today watching the British and French steaming warships together toward possible battle, awhile the U.S. invites Israel to war games exercises in the Persian Gulf. While all this is going on, Europe is beyond broke and slipping into total collapse while the U.S hosts a true red socialist in power under the crushing debt of 30+ years of mistakes.

In 2000? I think you'd have called a person crazy. I know I would have. Today? Well, it's just called staying up with the headlines...and really not much more at that. Anything could happen during this period and none of it would actually shock me anymore.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
This got interesting. The Russians have the best missile technology and their supercavitating torpedoes are unstoppable. I surely know they have the ability to wreak havoc on the HMS Daring and perhaps a few US Naval vessels. The question is how much are they willing to side with Iran. Is this the beginning of the Gog-Magog war? Sure seems like it.

So when are you moving back to Russia? If I hear oh and the Uber Russia Super cavitation Torpedoes are unstoppable one more time I am going to laugh myself right out of this chair. Russia has a horrible track record of losing butt-loads of military equipment to U.S. bombs, missiles and just about everything else.

The only thing that allows them any credibility is their massive nuclear arsenal. The U.S. just did a practice Naval exercise with them so I really don't see Russia losing any sleep for Iran or Syria. Russia wont like losing its Naval base in Syria but they will either get a prearranged agreement with the U.S. forces to leave as its only a six day visit or they could be blown the hell out of the water by Israel but like I said, this is not in Russia's best interest stand up to NATO at this time and Obama is to chicken shat to sink a Russian ship.

I doubt the U.S. will be bombing Syria at all as Israel can easily knock that terd out. Besides the U.S. doesn't get mentioned in the Gog-Magog war and that's what this will be. Remember, Obama is a jackal and I think he will bail on Israel when Russia gets involved. Sadly that will force Israel to go nuclear and with all the ABM systems in house that will be bad for Russia and the invading Arab armies.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
HMS Daring has some engine problems LMAO (although the pic is not the HMS daring):

www.presstv.ir...

Earlier, on Saturday, British media outlets widely covered a report by the Daily Telegraph, saying that the Royal Navy is to send its “most formidable warship HMS Daring” to the Persian Gulf region for its first mission. Those outlets tried to paint a grand picture of a warship touted as the most advanced of its kind in the world with extreme radar tracking and maneuvering capabilities that bumped against a tug on her way to the Southampton port in September 2010. The much-talked-about warship was damaged as it could not even get around the tug, which lost power to its engines, blocking the warship.

edit on 9-1-2012 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)

Had back in 2010, did you not see that? Its an experimental design that was bound to have glitches.

What I don't understand is how Russia can side against Israel. Russian jews are everywhere and they have a lot of power in Israel.

Russia can't be part of any alliance that threatens to wipe Israel off the map.

Iran Muslims, Israel Jews = same thing ;-)

Originally posted by squandered
What I don't understand is how Russia can side against Israel. Russian jews are everywhere and they have a lot of power in Israel.

Russia can't be part of any alliance that threatens to wipe Israel off the map.

Umm.. No offense here, but where have you been the last few decades?? The massive effort and expense to relocate Jews out of Russia and home to Israel isn't because Russian winters are brutally cold.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

Originally posted by squandered
What I don't understand is how Russia can side against Israel. Russian jews are everywhere and they have a lot of power in Israel.

Russia can't be part of any alliance that threatens to wipe Israel off the map.

Umm.. No offense here, but where have you been the last few decades?? The massive effort and expense to relocate Jews out of Russia and home to Israel isn't because Russian winters are brutally cold.

I don't really buy that. They are the richest middle class Russians and some Jews fled there during WWII. It has always been a safe haven. They far outnumber skinheads if that's your impression. I don't know how you can justify that...

Russia is still full of Jews and they are respected more than Jews in the US, etc.

i'm just waiting for "Breaking News" to flash on cnn that war has broke out in the middle east, israeli war planes strike iran.

Originally posted by Patriotsrevenge

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
This got interesting. The Russians have the best missile technology and their supercavitating torpedoes are unstoppable. I surely know they have the ability to wreak havoc on the HMS Daring and perhaps a few US Naval vessels. The question is how much are they willing to side with Iran. Is this the beginning of the Gog-Magog war? Sure seems like it.

So when are you moving back to Russia? If I hear oh and the Uber Russia Super cavitation Torpedoes are unstoppable one more time I am going to laugh myself right out of this chair. Russia has a horrible track record of losing butt-loads of military equipment to U.S. bombs, missiles and just about everything else.

The only thing that allows them any credibility is their massive nuclear arsenal. The U.S. just did a practice Naval exercise with them so I really don't see Russia losing any sleep for Iran or Syria. Russia wont like losing its Naval base in Syria but they will either get a prearranged agreement with the U.S. forces to leave as its only a six day visit or they could be blown the hell out of the water by Israel but like I said, this is not in Russia's best interest stand up to NATO at this time and Obama is to chicken shat to sink a Russian ship.

I doubt the U.S. will be bombing Syria at all as Israel can easily knock that terd out. Besides the U.S. doesn't get mentioned in the Gog-Magog war and that's what this will be. Remember, Obama is a jackal and I think he will bail on Israel when Russia gets involved. Sadly that will force Israel to go nuclear and with all the ABM systems in house that will be bad for Russia and the invading Arab armies.

Buddy what are you talking about regarding Russia vrs Israel. It will take only 1 Megaton Hydrogen Nuke from Russia and Israel will be nothing but ash. They can only retaliate via submarine missiles but Russians are clever enough to kill them before anything else. Would US go to war against Russia for Israel and face the same fate and exchange monster nukes which results in western Europe facing the same fate as Israel? New Russian military doctrine openly says that Russia will use tactical nukes to stop advancing armies as its conventional forces are in a low grade state and quality wise are outnumbered probably 10 to 1.

Do you how much damage can 1 Megaton Thermonuclear Bomb do? It takes out not only cities but big chunks of geographical regions.

Can't believe that just because Iranians spoke some tough crap about Israel, the whole world is facing a thermonuclear WW III. Leaders like Obama, Hillary, Nethayahu, Sarkozy, Cameroon ............ all should be rounded up, publically stripped, harshly spanked, whipped and kicked out of the offices before they hurt common global citizens who are already struggling to make ends meet.

However, it would be nice gesture if Iranian leadership, both political and religious, comes out and declares that nukes or no nukes, Israel has nothing to fear from Iran and should even come out and offer a mutual 'no use nuke agreement' to Israel. This will dissipate lots of tensions and might even send warships sailing home from the Persian Gulf for maintenance related repairs and peaceful vacation.

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I wouldn't want to have an experimental unproven ship in the middle of a warzone, now would you. Excuses for the HMS Daring.

well its a good thing the US built a crapload of anti ballistic-missile defense for isreal. (in isreal)
not that they wouldn't already have it lots of it im sure.

i love the arguments that one nation has this or that. ignoring the facts that the opposing side may or may not be able to easily counter it.

no one wants to imagine shooting down a nuke thats flying over SOME land SOMEWHERE on its way to a target. there are many debatable issues with that. but you must be naive to think isreal is blind to 100 nukes flying at them. you dont own nukes just to assume you will never have any pointed back at you.

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well its a good thing the US built a crapload of anti ballistic-missile defense for isreal. (in isreal) not that they wouldn't already have it lots of it im sure.

And it´s a bad thing Russians have already adapted to those missile defences with multiple warheads and anti-missile busters.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Hey friend. Yes hard too stop those torpedoes but who cares. They are VERY inaccurate. It's a blind underwater rocket. Would be good to throw an explosion at a big ship but is not an anti submarine weapon. You can't shoot at something you don't know is there.

reply to post by Ben81


Iran wants the war not the West. Iran's leaders, not its people, are thugs. The Mullahs in Iran are EVIL. They subscribe to a version of radical Islam that thinks its cool to suppress women; mutilate them if they dare to get an education.The Mullahs also hate gay people and freedom of speech. They are intolerant of every other culture and religion in the world. If they ruled,all of you liberals that trash talk America would be executed. The Mullahs do not care that you like them, you are an infidel too.Please read the Koran and read about radical Islam before you post here in their defense. Deny Ignorance!

Ummm yeah its called Sharia law. Any of you Iran supporters out there look it up. Oh yeah, and i take it you dont live there. Of course you dont because you're on the INTERNET!!!!!!

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It is not your job to tell Iran how to run its government, if you want to tell them, renounce your citizenship and go run for Iranian office; watch out for the coup that might try to take you out of office courtesy of the US government.