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posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Narciso

Originally posted by michael1983l
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So people should not be allowed to decide their own fate then, like the native Falkland Islanders want to?

You still have not provided one sensible argument as to why Argentina, that as a nation was born after the Falkland Islands should be the soverign state of the Falkland Islands?

Do you think that if the people of the Falklands were given an honest and free vote on who they wanted to be soverign state to that it would not come back as 99%+ British Soverignty. What gives you the right to displace an entire nation on the grounds that the Island is relativly close to your nation and it must be your because my dad told me a story once that he lived there.

Come on, give me a break. You have zero valid grounds for claims on the Islands and if your nation continues to try and bully the Islanders and the UK into handing them to you, then I personally would back any UK government mandate to go to war with Argentina.


When did Great Britain care about people deciding their own fate? Never mind. But I remind you that you where ok with doing that to the palestinians when you decided to create Isreal out of thing air so I assumed you would be ok with this too, I guess I was wrong since this time what favours your interests is the opposite. Hmmm, I learning a lot today...


the Israelis and Palestinians were offered a two state solution, which the Arabs turned down and promptly declared war on the Israelis. The British Mandate of Palestine as it was then, wasn't a sovreign State it was territory ceded by Turkey after World War I, and previously under the control of the Ottaman Empire. You are also judging the modern UK by past standards, There are parts of my countries History I'm not particularily proud of, but I doubt any suggestion you would have had at the time, on the Palestinian/Israeli subject, had you been around, would have worked either. Sounds like to me you get all of your facts from George Galloway and Press TV, not exactly reliable sources :-)



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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I would agree with you, except that they never belonged to South America like you stated. And if you go by that premise, then Argentina belongs to the English because we created the country from rebelious ashes.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Jeez, you don't get this she-it from the Ozzies... they are commonwealth, and yes they moan about it like any other human being moans about their boss. But they are in effect on the other side of the planet, and just get on with their lives.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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And you are in such a powerful position to state that? HA! Grow a brain.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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And i would hate to have to count up the amount of murdered people, civilians and soldiers that the US has accomplished in its reign of terror!



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Wow it's amazing to see people's prejudices come out in this thread.

All the HATE i see directed at the british people is disgusting.

Bottom line is the Falklands are not and were NEVER a part of Argentina, and don't wish to be now.

Anyone who supports the right of self determination for mankind should support the plight of the falklands against the Argentine Aggression.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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I admire the Australians......they tend to be really interesting people and have become a positive group in their part of the world.....they have become part of the solution over there.....kudos to them...they mix with their neighbors rather than separate themselves because of trivial loyalties to some old lady with a nice hat or differing idiosyncrasy....they are more from there than from the motherland....



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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[snip] The islands are NOT in "their territory" as you say, they are 400 nautical miles from their coast... if that were the case, then the UK can claim sovereignty over France because it is so close???
edit on 12/21/2011 by 12m8keall2c because: removed ill-mannered comment



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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You have no idea how many true Indians are living the UK, living and working peacefully! Go back under your rock troll.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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You sir are rude.....while I can stand to have you disagree....I will not let you simply insult me because I have a different idea of what is going on there.....

I disagree because its resource rape.....something that has to end in south america so the united states can liberate itself from illegal immigration into its borders.....if the people down there had the profit of their own resources they would not be a burden to the rest of us.....

and again.....for lack of having you face to face like a man.....I´ll just say it again,,,,Rude,,,,ignorant and arrogant....

you are a credit to your point of view



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Your arguement is valid, hence why India was given back...Hong Kong was given back...etc. etc.. However, since there were no inhabitants of the island 400 miles off the non existand Argentinian coast, WE PUT A FLAG IN IT!



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Here, here... a perfect response my friend! How dare the Americans talk about giving up some islands that we have lived on for nearly as long as they have been a country! And on the same point, DO NOT attempt to justify your arguments, when the US is the only country in the world that has been systematically INVADING other countries....why was that...oh yeah, OIL!....Hmm, Falklands....oil..... Greedy bastardly yanks!



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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You my friend are an idiot! There were no mass murders... Prat.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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I like Australians...especially when we are beating them at cricket, but I disgress.

They have been very loyal and steadfast friends of the UK and we will never forget that....but do you know anything about their society, culture and history?

I suspect most Australian Aborigenal people would probably have a very different perspective and viewpoint to both you and I.

Earlier I asked a question and no-one has attempted to answer.

What is so different, apart from the fact that The Falklands were uninhabited when the UK gained them, with The Falklands being a British Territory and Hawaii and Alaska being US states?



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Alaska used to be Russian for a start but I see your point.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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Don't talk about the americans nuking the japanese!! It hurts them to hear the truth... Considering the deaths that resulted, and the resulting deformaties and mutations and ON-GOING dna fk-ups... isn't that genocide? since it is solely aimed at the Japs?



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Are you sure? how many Americans have died in the last 200 years....and are you sure they haven't been robbing you of your riches and gold?



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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Because its their main argument... please don't contradict them with real facts




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