Chemtrails Perfectly Revisited

Originally posted by adeclerk
reply to post by HypotheticalSituationist

 

I don't get it, I skimmed through and all the video shows are a bunch of contrails?

Good job collecting all of the 'chemtrail' "evidence" in one place, though. If only that would deter the influx of "new" posts that have been discussed over and over.

edit on 11/18/11 by adeclerk because: (no reason given)

You debunkers are getting really desperate. That was a rather pathetic attempt at debunking the video. You even admitted to not fully watch it yet claim it has already been dekunked

reply to post by HypotheticalSituationist


Great thread btw OP.

I'm curious as to where you got that footage around the 5 minute mark that shows the tanker that has been refitted for spraying. I have never seen that before and would like to look into it in more detail.

Star and flag for me. Keep up the good work

Originally posted by dplum517
reply to post by Phage

 

Heh ... complete nonsense is that website you are linking to debunk.

That site does not debunk anything.

I always chuckle when the deniers refer us to contrailscience.com to debunk something

I'm going to make a site full of false claims and refer fellow members to it to argue my point

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed


I'm going to make a site full of false claims and refer fellow members to it to argue my point

Please do. But first, please point out some of the false claims on contrailscience.

Originally posted by adeclerk
reply to post by HypotheticalSituationist

 

So can you provide any actual evidence? You would think that in the last 15 years of spraying there would be some sort of air, water or soil sample that is anamolous. You would think that someone would have been verifiably sick because of a chemical present in the air, water or soil. You would think that evidence of spray-planes, sprayer nozzles, plumbing, tanks, chemicals, above ground chemical storage, etc.

Why is none of that evidence extant?

I am still skeptical about those chemtrail theories, but there have been found elevated levels of the claimed chemicals in nature. And if you actually looked around you would know that people are falling sick everywhere.
We have record high levels of allergies, auto immune disorders, cancer rates is through roof even for children, adhd/add and other cognitive problems is at an all time high and so on.

But I guess this is not getting sick according to you??

And before you comment on the "evidence" presented in a video, you should at least watch it instead of skimming through it.
Which is why i wont comment yet as i haven't watched it.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Honestly, it's not worth my time watching when there is no new "evidence" in there. It's the same news reports, the same photos being misrepresented, the same videos that were made as a hoax.

Really now, you don't truly believe that spreading lies about "chemtrails" could in any way better the movement?

reply to post by Phage

But first, please point out some of the false claims on contrailscience.

I think that has been asked before and we are still waiting for the answer, so good luck in getting that done anytime soon.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed

I'm curious as to where you got that footage around the 5 minute mark that shows the tanker that has been refitted for spraying. I have never seen that before and would like to look into it in more detail.

I can show you where it's from.

Here's a picture just like it...either the same airplane, or a different one. It's an Airbus A-380 undergoing certfication flight testing:



Those barrels contain a "chemical" all right.....H2O. They are used as ballast, and the water is pumped and moved to alter the center of gravity (CG) in flight.

READ the notes on the photo:

F-WWEA (cn 009) This A380 was in ADD for high altitude test for four days. The elevation of the airport is 7,630 ft (2.326 m) and the 3.800 m RWY is capable for 450 t. Here you can see the ballast barrels.

That one was the Airbus. Here, A Boeing 777-300:

N5016R (cn 32431/429) Showing the extreme rear of this aircraft which was rigged for the rigorous flight test program that all new Boeing types must undergo. The barrels are part of a water transfer system to simulate various loads and their effect on the aircrafts centre of gravity. The air data package (cone from top of tail) reel is visible and marked "Fin Cone" especially for you!

Originally posted by juleol
I am still skeptical about those chemtrail theories, but there have been found elevated levels of the claimed chemicals in nature.

Source?

Originally posted by juleol
And if you actually looked around you would know that people are falling sick everywhere.

Impressive. People get sick all of the time, that's nothing new. What you need to look for are trends in disease rates, and I can tell you they certainly have changed dramatically in the last 15 years. Never mind the fact that "chemtrails that make people sick" would make the sprayers themselves sick! That should be the first unsound line of logic you examine in these "disease" claims.

Originally posted by juleol
We have record high levels of allergies, auto immune disorders, cancer rates is through roof even for children, adhd/add and other cognitive problems is at an all time high and so on.

Have all of these increased in the last 15 years?
Is it possible that an increase is from better diagnostics?
Could there be better treatment now causing awareness to go up?

Do you have any actual numbers to support this claim?

Originally posted by juleol
But I guess this is not getting sick according to you??

Originally posted by juleol
And before you comment on the "evidence" presented in a video, you should at least watch it instead of skimming through it.

It's all of the same "evidence" that gets posted up here on a weekly basis. Only this guy has been nice enough to compile it into one youtube video. Judging by all the videos he is posting now, he is really good at using that youtube! Not so good at using source evaluation, I'm afraid.

Originally posted by jeichelberg
reply to post by ZIPMATT

 

Where is the proof? You are obviously very adept at manipulating images...quite a bit of it occurring in your video...Why would you not take this "chemtrail proof," video to an attorney and seek damages?

@2.22 / 2.26 is made of raw video . since the planes had no insignia , who would i sue for what ?

if they were engineering plants resistant to aluminium poisoning , etc , i would be seriously p$$$ed off .

the real danger then is in people finding out just _ what exactly the clear (are you blind?) proof proves .

reply to post by ZIPMATT


Everything in that video shows perfectly normal contrails.

Seriously? You show a compilation of photos of clouds, for over 6 minutes....(with bad music)??

reply to post by ProudBird


baaa you dont like having being caught out .
its not my fault i just walk into these situations , it is not planned , seriously . its unplanned by unplanners

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


CE.....please read my FULL POST from Page 1.

It clearly demolishes this video, from the OP. The first five minutes, or one third of the video is shown to be complete bunkum. I could carry on and show the rest is also false, as well...if you'd like?:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by adeclerk

Do some research then. And you must be really young if you haven't noticed a change.

Cancer rates has not gone up??? No increase in allergies or asthma?? You clearly have not done any research on this subject. And take for example adhd.. These days you often have several kids per class that are affected so badly that they need more than one teacher even just to keep some order. How come this was not a problem when I attended public school? Nothing else has changed, but yet for some reason there is a lot more kids that are hyperactive and have attention problems these days.
With add/adhd there is no stats to really show, since it was literally nearly unheard of just a few decades ago. The evidence you can still clearly see if you walk into a classroom today.
I am not saying it is caused by chemtrails, as i am skeptical about this as well. But it is a FACT that such disorders have been increasing significantly over the last DECADES.

And here is one article about allergies on the increase: link

About 54 percent of Americans are sensitive to at least one allergy-inducing substance, according to a national survey conducted from 1988 to 1994 by the National Institutes of Health (NIH). That's about two to five times higher, depending on the allergen, than the rates found by NIH between 1976 and 1980.

But like I said.. I personally dont think this has anything to do with contrails/chemtrails. But saying that there is no such increase in disorders is just plain lies or misinformation.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Try this out...



Interesting isn't it? Nothing nefarious here.

Originally posted by juleol
Do some research then. And you must be really young if you haven't noticed a change.

In the last 15 years?

Originally posted by juleol
Cancer rates has not gone up??? No increase in allergies or asthma??

I'm not sure about allergies or asthma, but cancer rates have been going up at a steady rate for 40 years. No change in that rate in the last 15. Get it?

Originally posted by juleol
And take for example adhd.. These days you often have several kids per class that are affected so badly that they need more than one teacher even just to keep some order. How come this was not a problem when I attended public school? Nothing else has changed, but yet for some reason there is a lot more kids that are hyperactive and have attention problems these days.

You're right. We've recently developed adhd drugs and have expanded our criterion for diagnosing it. The increased diagnoses must be because the government is spraying poison on us from the skies.

Originally posted by juleol
With add/adhd there is no stats to really show, since it was literally nearly unheard of just a few decades ago. The evidence you can still clearly see if you walk into a classroom today.
I am not saying it is caused by chemtrails, as i am skeptical about this as well. But it is a FACT that such disorders have been increasing significantly over the last DECADES.

And here is one article about allergies on the increase: link

About 54 percent of Americans are sensitive to at least one allergy-inducing substance, according to a national survey conducted from 1988 to 1994 by the National Institutes of Health (NIH). That's about two to five times higher, depending on the allergen, than the rates found by NIH between 1976 and 1980.

But like I said.. I personally dont think this has anything to do with contrails/chemtrails. But saying that there is no such increase in disorders is just plain lies or misinformation.

Look at the bold dates. This isn't even relevant information, it is an increase from before the "chemtrail" conspiracy was even invented! Point is, there hasn't been a noticeable increase since 1996, these rates have not changed!

Logically, the increases can't be from "chemtrails", anyway.

reply to post by HypotheticalSituationist


OP video and really liked the radar educational . In the OP video there was a plane - white and kind of a teal blue or teal green. The hubby caught one like that the other day and I got outside in time to see the flyover as well. Haven't checked back yet for the markings but looks like a new avenue of pursuit. Thanks for the heads up.

Well this is interesting to say the least Chemtrail plane, I think not. Look at the 4:16 mark and notice the plane, because this video pretty much explains why the OP video is a video of debunked material.



And here is another good one for you...



So now will someone please show evidence of chemtrails that hasn't been seen and debunked in the already over 300 threads on this subject?

Just thought I would toss this in here for the enjoyment of the chemtrail believers.