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Chemtrails Perfectly Revisited

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posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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I've just completed an informal 'mini-documentary' on Chemtrails, which people can see.

My aim with the video was to pack as much crucial information into 15 minutes as humanly possible along with the consequences and the theories as to why I am undoubtedly correct.

I want the common man to be able to watch this video, and come away with the knowledge that this is real and serious. The real reasons behind the spraying are almost secondary compared to the importance of getting people to acknowledge it and start asking questions addressed to me about it.




posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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I don't get it, I skimmed through and all the video shows are a bunch of contrails?

Good job collecting all of the 'chemtrail' "evidence" in one place, though. If only that would deter the influx of "new" posts that have been discussed over and over.

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posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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So can you provide any actual evidence? You would think that in the last 15 years of spraying there would be some sort of air, water or soil sample that is anamolous. You would think that someone would have been verifiably sick because of a chemical present in the air, water or soil. You would think that evidence of spray-planes, sprayer nozzles, plumbing, tanks, chemicals, above ground chemical storage, etc.

Why is none of that evidence extant?



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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I have some questions.

Why is the first clip in your video from the infamous KLSA news blurb which has been shown to be complete nonsense?
contrailscience.com...

What does the chaff used as electromagnetic countermeasures have to do with "chemtrails"?

Why do you include pictures of ballast testing of aircraft? What does that have to do with "chemtrails"?
contrailscience.com...

If the purpose of "chemtrails" is population reduction (I thought you say it is for geoengineering), why are people living longer?




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posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Great .. a mini documentary about contrails that are being described as chem trails under the guise of someone who claims to know factually what they are.. this does nothing but cause harm because people who don't know any better will buy into it ...

This is how things like this take hold and spread like a virus..

There's no evidence here ... "undoubtedly correct" ? as per usual, not the case.



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Indeed. Alex Jones/Infowars also did an hour interview with Rosalind Peterson in 2010. She has a lot of documents with her, and provides a great amount of solid info on the spraying.




posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by miniatus
Great .. a mini documentary about contrails that are being described as chem trails under the guise of someone who claims to know factually what they are.. this does nothing but cause harm because people who don't know any better will buy into it ...

This is how things like this take hold and spread like a virus..

There's no evidence here ... "undoubtedly correct" ? as per usual, not the case.

Look mate, you're just not going to get anywhere here if you keep trying to ridicule the legitimate and legitimize the ridiculous. Trying to debunk chemtrails whilst promoting yourself? No one is going to take you seriously if you can't get a little more creative than that.

You truly need to know who it is you are dealing with here.



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Phage

I have no idea wtf your post editing has done but I have no time or consequence in trying to make it out.

Sorry.
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posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Spectacular, more testimony! Is any of it based on evidence, though? Doesn't seem to be too much in the way of evidence for what any "chemtrail" promoter is claiming.



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by HypotheticalSituationist

Originally posted by miniatus
Great .. a mini documentary about contrails that are being described as chem trails under the guise of someone who claims to know factually what they are.. this does nothing but cause harm because people who don't know any better will buy into it ...

This is how things like this take hold and spread like a virus..

There's no evidence here ... "undoubtedly correct" ? as per usual, not the case.

Look mate, you're just not going to get anywhere here if you keep trying to ridicule the legitimate and legitimize the ridiculous. Trying to debunk chemtrails whilst promoting yourself? No one is going to take you seriously if you can't get a little more creative than that.

You truly need to know who it is you are dealing with here.


I'm not promoting myself, in any way .. but I know the science of contrails, and I know lack of evidence for chemtrails when I see it .. there's nothing to the information provided, nothing at all.. and I find it quite harmful to spread it because people panic for no reason whatsoever.. sorry if that annoys you



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by HypotheticalSituationist
I've just completed an informal 'mini-documentary' on Chemtrails, which people can see...The real reasons behind the spraying are almost secondary compared to the importance of getting people to acknowledge it and start asking questions addressed to me about it.


Okay...Since the "real reasons behind the spraying are almost secondary compared to the importance of getting people to acknowledge it and start asking questions addressed to me about it," I hereby ACKNOWLEDGE the existence of your video and will address these questions to you about it...

1) Where is the evidence that "chemtrails," exist?
2) Why have you not presented any evidence to a reputable (or for that matter, disreputable) law firm?
3) If you have presented the evidence to a reputable (or for that matter, disreputable) law firm, what was their response?

Thank you, and I will be looking forward to your response.
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posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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Sorry, I must have misunderstood when you said this:


start asking questions addressed to me about it.


I thought you were asking for questions. I asked some.



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Not to mention the lack of any logic to the idea of chemtrails..one theory suggests that the chemtrails are to make people sick or to make them more "obedient" .. all the while forgetting that the pilots of those planes breathe the same air we breathe, the government leaders breathe it.. the families of all of these people breathe it.. so that idea is ridiculous.

The others are weather control and haarp .. the evidence surrounding haarp is shoddy in and of itself so when you piggy back the notion of the unproven chemtrails on top of it, it only makes it even more shoddy .. There's been no proof of them for weather control, no motive that sounds remotely logical.. nothing..

And despite the logic just not being there, there's zero evidence for them being chemical sprays and many many years of science supporting the idea they are exactly what they are.. contrails...



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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The "Rosalind Peterson" video, yet again??

How many times must that silliness be debunked? It is utter rubbish, and her lack of knowledge about aviation is the primary reason...the rest follows.



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by HypotheticalSituationist

Originally posted by miniatus
Great .. a mini documentary about contrails that are being described as chem trails under the guise of someone who claims to know factually what they are.. this does nothing but cause harm because people who don't know any better will buy into it ...

This is how things like this take hold and spread like a virus..

There's no evidence here ... "undoubtedly correct" ? as per usual, not the case.

Look mate, you're just not going to get anywhere here if you keep trying to ridicule the legitimate and legitimize the ridiculous. Trying to debunk chemtrails whilst promoting yourself? No one is going to take you seriously if you can't get a little more creative than that.

You truly need to know who it is you are dealing with here.


In looking at your OP, I would believe this statement:


Since the real reasons behind the spraying are almost secondary compared to the importance of getting people to acknowledge it and start asking questions addressed to me about it.


constitutes (IMHO) the PINNACLE of SELF-PROMOTION!!! I mean, really...Here you are, writing about a subject which concerns a great many persons world-wide, and you are lecturing somebody else about self-promotion? You are not concerned AT ALL about getting any proof to any agency or entity that could potentially help the "suffering people?" NO...as a matter of fact, YOU SAY the reasons for the spraying ARE SECONDARY to asking you questions about it and acknowledging your expertise in being able to put together a mini-documentary...

So, in addition to the other three questions I asked in my earlier post, I submit this question:

4) Who is really doing the self-promotion, you or miniatus?



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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Sorry, but your video (that I suspect you worked long and hard on) is nothing but a re-hash of the same debunked, debunked, debunked claims over and over again.

At time reference 04:41- the image of the KC-10? Thread on it is here at ATS. The original video was done as a prank, to twist "chemtrail" believers into knots of paroxysmal glee. It is nothing other than normal aerodynamic contrails, with occasional normal engine contrails to boot. The YouTube account called "tankerenemy" is a known fraud and hoaxer and liar.

At 05:01 is the image from an Airbus A-380 undergoing flight certification testing. The blue barrels are used as ballast and contain WATER! The water is pumped around to alter the airplanes center of gravity (CG) in-flight.

Here is a similar image, similar conditions...it is a shot looking in a different direction in the cabin:



Text with that photo, above:


F-WWEA (cn 009) This A380 was in ADD for high altitude test for four days. The elevation of the airport is 7,630 ft (2.326 m) and the 3.800 m RWY is capable for 450 t. Here you can see the ballast barrels.


('F-WWEA' is its registration. 'cn 009' is its "contract number" sequence of line production from the factory. 'ADD' refers to the airport it was at -- Addis Ababa - Bole International )

Using that photo is especially disingenuous....in other words, a flat-out lie.

At 05:06 to 05:11...THAT is the interior or a Boeing jet. Also can be researched and properly sourced. It was either a B-777-300 or a B-747-800 (IIRC) undergoing flight testing, similar to the Airbus A-380.

At 05:11 it is particularly egregious!! More PhotoShop. There is another version of that same image floating on the Internet, were the words "Sprayer 05" are instead saying "Haz Mat". The "Haz Mat" was either PhotoShopped, or was an inside joke...since the compartment we are looking at in that image is one of the lavatories installed for the flight test crew and engineers.

So...in just the first third of your video, there are obvious fallacies, mistakes, and lies.

Shall I go on???????



posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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It's a weird one, but basically it's an absolute 'must be' straight from the top. They've been at this in one form or another since the 60's, but they started up the worldwide, daily spraying in the mid-late 90's.

There are tons of applications, but most of them involve pumping heavy metal toxins into the atmosphere, which causes the massive surge in illness and diseases of all kinds - because of this, there is no way they could ever admit to it. Not after having caused so much death and destruction. They just have to keep going and make sure it's kept a lid on, and they also benefit from the reduced life expectancy as this helps depopulation. I feel this is a big part of it.

The other thing is that some of the spraying increases the temperature, and I am convinced that parts of the chemtrail programs are actually to heat up the atmosphere, in order to swing the temperature measurements in favour of 'anthropogenic global warming', because that is also another agenda which is absolutely non-negotiable. We have various scientists releasing patterns suggesting that chemtrails would be to 'curb' and block global warming, but all the evidence and observations say that chemtrails are causing global temperature increases.

I suspect it's done by both private and military contracts, under a very high security classification. However they've done it, they've turned this into something that mainstream media, and the vast majority of public service people simply will not touch. It's almost like UFO's, except there's no joking around, they just wont go there, bar a few individuals and a couple of local TV stations. I don't know why we've had no pilot whistleblowers come forward yet, but I would suggest that this issue is controlled so tightly through classifications and compartmentalization, that it is somehow made a non-option.

However they keep the lid on this so well, without leaks coming out all the time, really is a testament to the importance that has been placed on these programs, and the amount of effort that has gone into denying them and keeping people quiet. People think that secrets can't be kept? What a joke..


Source

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posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:49 PM
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Honestly, I can appreciate your feelings on the matter...I would be OUTRAGED if there were any factual basis to the issue of chemtrails...

But NO, there is none...Time and again, throughout history, issues of poisons (heavy metals, adverse chemicals, etc.) introduced to the environment by any agency, corporate entity, or individual, have been reported and DEALT WITH APPROPRIATELY!!! Nobody gets away with it...Too many people are concerned about it to let anyone get away with it...Lawyers deal with this ALL THE TIME!!!

Stop and think...If you have any objective evidence, take it to a lawyer...they will help you...

So, kindly, rather than being so GLOBAL in your thinking...take the questions from the other members and answer them one by one...It will help you to understand the severity and importance of this topic...it really will...
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posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 06:57 PM
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Here are but a few of photos I have taken which PROVE chemtrails are above my flat.

Chemtrail Image

Chemtrail Image 2

I have more, of course, but the best evidence is that I am plainly saying what the truth is.



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