Chemtrails Perfectly Revisited

reply to post by Human_Alien


Let me ask then.....when the video has parts of it that are proven to be incorrect.....what does that do to its credibility?

Here's a different way to look at it. Say you are reading a book just out by someone, on a topic you happen to know a LOT about. Perhaps you are even an "expert" on the information presented in the book.

With me so far?

Now....you are reading this book, and being the expert on the subject matter, you see many blatantly wrong,a nd false claims and statements in the narrative. How would you react? Remember, this is something you know A LOT about, and here is some person who wrote a darn book! And, its complete garbage....and you know it's garbage!

Would you recommend it to your friends? If asked to give an expert opinion on the book, what would you say about it?

Originally posted by HypotheticalSituationist
DEBUNK THESE!

MY ENTIRE CHEMTRAIL ALBUM OPEN FOR PUBLIC VIEWING

debunk what? They are just pictures of contrails - what proof do you have that they are the mythical "chemtrails"?

Originally posted by HypotheticalSituationist
Phage

I have no idea wtf your post editing has done but I have no time or consequence in trying to make it out.

Sorry.

edit on 18-11-2011 by HypotheticalSituationist because: typo

Get used to it. That tactic is done ALL the time.
It's too bad ATS gives us a way of explaining our edit (to keep the playing fields fair) yet some members must feel above that laborious feat!

I wanted to ask you, did you put that 14+ minute video together yourself?
When did you first become aware of this?

Again, great thread.
We are the 99%.
Ignore the 1%. They are either too dumb or too well paid.

reply to post by Human_Alien


"Great thread"??

Why won't you answer my question??

Originally posted by HypotheticalSituationist

Originally posted by ProudBirdHelp me to understand.....when I posted information, facts and evidence that directly refuted the claims presented in your video, that is considered to be "nonsense"?

Exactly, your post was without merit.

OK, let me put it another way. In the movie Jurassic Park, there's a scene where a researcher sticks her hand in a pile of dinosaur #, digs around, and pulls out an undigested berry. I'm sure if I read more Proud Bird nonsense, I too may discover a crap covered berry, but to me, the price is way too high.

Hi!

About that cr#p covered berry, PB is in aviation and feels a psycotic need to sooth his insecurity about 'contrials' as he feels it is directed at him if anyone dares to accuse the aviation industry of something so DISGUSTING as chemtrails. It is a personal issue to him and he is unable to seperate his own flying to that of TPTB.
Shame.

I see certain avaters in a chemtrail thread and I simply scroll right over them as if they do not exist.

Unfortunately I am unable to watch vids, but I am sure that your work does not touch on anything I do not know yet, as I have done extensive research on the subject and still hate it with a vengence.

My painting in my avatar is called 'essence' where in an ideal world the skies are blessed with more of life's essence; a fantastical expression for the wish to couteract chemtrails.

Keep up the good work! You go Glasgow!

reply to post by UnlimitedSky

I see certain avaters in a chemtrail thread and I simply scroll right over them as if they do not exist.

How sorry to read that. There is a possibility for learning, or there is a choice to remain in the dark.

Seems as if that personal choice leads only to darkness and further lack of dawning comprehension. Shame, really, that someone would willfully do that to themselves, rather than embracing facts and knowledge, to "deny the ignorance".

Really, a crying shame. This world needs people who are well-informed, in many different aspects of science and technology. Believing in fantasies and myths have led Humanity to some of the worst tragedies in history.

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Let me ask then.....when the video has parts of it that are proven to be incorrect.....what does that do to its credibility?

Here's a different way to look at it. Say you are reading a book just out by someone, on a topic you happen to know a LOT about. Perhaps you are even an "expert" on the information presented in the book.

With me so far?

Now....you are reading this book, and being the expert on the subject matter, you see many blatantly wrong,a nd false claims and statements in the narrative. How would you react? Remember, this is something you know A LOT about, and here is some person who wrote a darn book! And, its complete garbage....and you know it's garbage!

Would you recommend it to your friends? If asked to give an expert opinion on the book, what would you say about it?

To me, that's semantics. And if you're right, I don't believe it is done with deliberate intent to hoodwink others.

I am way past any inconsistencies or even if a real contrail is mistaken for a chemtrail. Who cares? That doesn't absolve the issue.

That's like a news segment, reporting on a real live event only they use the wrong footage (by mistake or enhancement). It doesn't eradicate the 'incident'!

The last thing any of us would do is call attention to ourselves by using purposefully manipulated information. We might not know WHAT it is but we certainly know what it is NOT.

I am to the point where I am not going to defend, debate, argue, berate, battle, get mad or be bothered with anyone who doesn't admit chemtrails are being used. It's like taking a few steps back in evolutionary process when I deal with that kind.

I just happened to see your post just now. So you won't waste any of your time, I won't be answering anymore pro-contrail replies

Originally posted by Human_Alien
Clearly there's a campaign to discredit the messengers. And when that fails, they attack the message by saying it's misidentified disinformation.

The only campaign to discredit messengers is that by myth promoters continually calling people who present facts and verifiable evidence shills, paid disinfo agents, etc.

Debunking is done by FACTS - if sometimes we debunkers lose our rag at what goes on here then that's just human.

However the prime tool of debunking is facts, and verifiable evidence.

And yet in the post above you call these "semantics" - you say that if someone photographs a "chemtail" and there's nothing about it that actually shows that it is a chemtrail, then that does not invalidate chemtrails.

That would be true if there were other evidence to show that chemtrails exist.

But there isn't.

Not. One. Piece.

And virtually every chemtrail promotion on here involves photos of white lines in the sky that appear to be identical to contrails, and for which not a single piece of credible evidence is proffered to show that it is anything else.

Whether the failure to supply any reasonable evidence it is deliberate or not, whether I is intended to deceive or not, is irrelevant - without corroborating evidence of some sort all you have is a hit line in the sky that is behaving exactly like a contrail, and the only reason it might not be is hat you say so.

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Let me ask then.....when the video has parts of it that are proven to be incorrect.....what does that do to its credibility?

To me, that's semantics. And if you're right, I don't believe it is done with deliberate intent to hoodwink others.

You think facts are semantics??

I am way past any inconsistencies or even if a real contrail is mistaken for a chemtrail.

How about when EVERY "chemtrail" looks exactly like a contrail, behaves exactly like a contrail, and cannot actually b distinguished from a contrail by anything except assertion??

Who cares? That doesn't absolve the issue.

Does this mean you no longer care that there is no evidence supporting the existence of chemtrails - you believe they exist without any verifiable evidence, and despite all the evidence that has been presented having been shown as false?

reply to post by HypotheticalSituationist


your video is disputed - doppler weather radar images precipitation , not clouds

Heads up

Am opposing viewpoint is exactly that. If you feel the need to resort to name calling, ad hominem attacks or pointed attempts at discreditation based soley on the fact that someone has an opposing view point to you then I suggest you think again.

We're all adults here. Act like it.

Originally posted by HypotheticalSituationist
Here are but a few of photos I have taken which PROVE chemtrails are above my flat.

Chemtrail Image

Chemtrail Image 2

I have more, of course, but the best evidence is that I am plainly saying what the truth is.

And you think these photos of absolutely normal contrails are proof of chemtrails how???
If you have the absorbsion spectra printouts from the spectrophotometer, would you please post them. Don't have any? I didn't think so.
Or maybe the HPLC or GC-MS printouts from the airborne capture tests? None?
Oh, I get it. They are proof because you say so. EPIC FAIL!

Nice video.

Thank's for posting.

reply to post by HypotheticalSituationist


mAybe they are trying to turn us all into midgets > thereby reducing the population by 95% , as the huge Georgia Guidestones dictate .

Its, the humane option , just in a miniscule way

reply to post by ZIPMATT

They are not trying to turn us into physical midgets, just mental ones.
It should be apparent to anyone that has no position on chemtrails that there is an organized disinformation campaign to,
1. Completely ignore the phenomenon. When that fails,
2. Ridicule those that observe and report. When that fails,
3. Claim it is normal and it has always been that way. When that fails,
4. What next? Acceptance.

In my opinion, ATS should acknowledge that chemtrail threads are quickly attacked by the same posters, and DO something about it. It is not conspiracy theory that discussion boards are infiltrated, it is FACT.

Star & Flag !

Well Done video.

This vid shows a plane reaching a convenient location to gain even coverage , as occurs in most chemical pesticide application , and actually turning on the spray to create yet another line of a grid .

Bar mapwork ie ariel photography being reason for the grid the end resultant high altitude mist the video also shows the expansive properties of the gas .

While we still dont know what it is or why they do it what we do know is it tends to happen in grid patterns , stops at night etc .

I'd like to see something which pairs the pure speculation from the active facts being witnessed .

More heavier applications of critical thinking would not be invalid , at this point , not to make an insult from dropping its rigours .




Plug the speakers in and turn the tunes up < recommended

reply to post by SurrealisticPillow


Well when I worked for Troll International PLC I found a lot of them came from australia . Quite independent over there they are really . While the brits cover american 'topics' and vice versa , for safety's sake , maybe the aus systems can be bought for less , while they work for the realies too , or got the better kits and contracts quicker .
canadians , french ones at that , from furthest reaches of the english speaking world . SA style attitudes are not tend to be good , but you should know as your buds and dont be on the wrong side of them . jobs is money keep your family happy , just a game it is and ve vill be ze victorz

it doesnt hurt to play along with lies sometimes > you learn more

Originally posted by User8911

Originally posted by jeichelberg
I am reporting this to the mods and will seek to have your account banned for failing to follow T&C...

I bet that's what you said to kids in the playground too.

And yet, still waiting for the OP to stick with the original objective of his thread...Answering direct questions...You see this anywhere yet? I don't... Four simple questions.

1) Where is objective proof of chemtrails?
2) Have you presented objective proof of chemtrails to a law firm?
3) If the answer to question #2 is affirmative, what was the response of the law firm?
4) Who is engaged in self-promotion?

These are all the questions I have and they are really very, very simple questions...instead of answering the questions, the OP and yourself truly demonstrate the fundamental lack of understanding necessary to get meaningful results concerning this highly charged topic...If you want something done about it, then do as other victims have done and present your case to attorney...they will take action...if there is any to take...

But the problem is...and you know it...THERE IS NONE...and because of this, you resort to ad hominem...tsk...tsk...