Is God Satan? Could everything we know about the Abrahamic faiths be backwards?

Youve opened a can of worms here. Good luck!

Wouldnt it be ironic if it were true? What better way to decieve mankind?

Ive often thought that God must have a HELLUVA sense of humor. (pun intended).

Eveybody waving their bibles as they MELT into acid in their hands with Satan laughing "GOT-CHA!".

reply to post by Deflagration


you and the op might like this-

www.abovetopsecret.com...

and of course, don't forget lucifer and jesus both add up to 74 in gematria. and both jesus and lucifer are both referred to as the morning star in one of the rehashes of the bible...

this is an interesting read as far as islam [mal si = bad yes in spanish] is concerened- www.scribd.com... ... divide and conquer...

lets hope the flock has a good look at this thread..lol.

namaste.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n

If you are using 9/11 to make your case....

This crap right here is why stressed READING THE ARTICLE...not just skimming and making snap judgments. I, myself, am not using anything to make my case. That underlined section is part of an exerpt from the source link provided.
This was an idea I'd been pondering for quite some time and I wanted to share it, sans soapbox. I'm not trying to push the idea off on people, I simply wanted their perspective on it. Not some condescending quip gleaned from a half-#@@ skim-job.

reply to post by mysterioustranger


That's exactly the train of thought I had. Someone, somewhere on the first page posted a bible verse about how God would tell people that others would claim to be him....I'm thinkin, that's kind of a trick villains use in books and movies to ensure they get there way, isn't it??

You can almost see The Demiurge (pretending he's God) telling his people, "now there's gonna be someone come along saying he's the true God, but don't listen, or you'll burn in hell"

I'm just tryin to live day-to-day...I know right from wrong, and I do my best to walk-the-walk. Other than that, I think it's folly for any deity to send a savior, and then expect mankind to remember and adhere to his teachings 2000+yrs in the future. If that's the case....then me and God are gonna have a serious talk when I get there!

The Gnostics have an interesting view of things. Mythology, ain't it a hoot?

The monotheists and illuminists are both scams by the same agents (archons) - its just like a snake changing its skin and then eating the old one.

reply to post by starsyren


You underlined that bit about people crashing planes into buildings to glorify "God".

And no.. I dont give a flying # about the links you provided.
Anytime you want to, frame your stance in YOUR OWN words...

Archons? Really? You've watched too much Star Trek. All that nonsense about mystical beings is hogwash. Prolefeed approved from the government, designed to delude the public into thinking that our leaders and religious figures are invincible, or beyond the reach of an organized movement of the people.

The Creator created 'everything'.

Yes, God is satan!

Akushla

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


I underlined that sentance to stress the POINT he was making. What he was saying was, what kind of god relishes violence in his name? The post I was replying to was suggesting that "I/ME/MYSELF" was using 9/11 as a means of getting a point across. But those weren't my words, nor were they what I was trying to point out. I was pointing out the overall message there. Context Clues.

Hey, if I were God, I'd be a megalomaniacal bastard. If I'm made in his image, I can totally understand where he's coming from. It'd get boring without ants to squish, over the eternities.

And when Pistis Sophia desired to cause the thing that had no spirit to be formed into a likeness and to rule over matter and over all her forces, there appeared for the first time a ruler, out of the waters, lion-like in appearance, androgynous, having great authority within him, and ignorant of whence he had come into being. Now when Pistis Sophia saw him moving about in the depth of the waters, she said to him, "Child, pass through to here," whose equivalent is 'yalda baoth'.

The Nag Hammadi text On the Origin of the World makes it clear that the creature named yalda baoth is borne of chaos and the result of Sophia Pistis’ jealousy of the First Cause (who is un-named). Unable to see Sophia Pistis, yalda baoth reckons he’s the man...or rather omnipotent God.

When the ruler saw his magnitude - and it was only himself that he saw: he saw nothing else, except for water and darkness - then he supposed that it was he alone who existed. His [...] was completed by verbal expression: it appeared as a spirit moving to and fro upon the waters. And when that spirit appeared, the ruler set apart the watery substance. And what was dry was divided into another place. And from matter, he made for himself an abode, and he called it 'heaven'. And from matter, the ruler made a footstool, and he called it 'earth'.

Ever heard the expression ‘I was in seventh heaven’? Yalda Baoth created the seven heavens for his seven off spring. The seventh heaven was the heaven of Sabaoth who was ashamed of his parent’s (yalda baoth) arrogance and was favoured by Sophia Pistis – the seventh heaven was the bestest heaven.

Now the prime parent Yaldabaoth, since he possessed great authorities, created heavens for each of his offspring through verbal expression - created them beautiful, as dwelling places - and in each heaven he created great glories, seven times excellent.

Having been created Yalda Baoth’s offspring wanted to give this creation lark a bash for themselves - they wanted to be worshipped by their creation...it took a few attempts to get it right – and even then they could only create humankind with a little help.

And when they had finished Adam, he abandoned him as an inanimate vessel, since he had taken form like an abortion, in that no spirit was in him. Regarding this thing, when the chief ruler remembered the saying of Pistis, he was afraid lest the true man enter his modelled form and become its lord. For this reason he left his modelled form forty days without soul, and he withdrew and abandoned it. Now on the fortieth day, Sophia Zoe sent her breath into Adam, who had no soul. He began to move upon the ground. And he could not stand up.

Now the first Adam, (Adam) of Light, is spirit-endowed and appeared on the first day. The second Adam is soul-endowed and appeared on the sixth day, which is called Aphrodite. The third Adam is a creature of the earth, that is, the man of the law, and he appeared on the eighth day [...] the tranquility of poverty, which is called "The Day of the Sun" (Sunday). And the progeny of the earthly Adam became numerous and was completed, and produced within itself every kind of scientific information of the soul-endowed Adam. But all were in ignorance.

Yalda Baoth and his/her off spring seem to have the very character flaws evident in the God of the OT....and the character flaws we deride in our fellow humans - jealousy, vanity, sloth. They demand praise, worship, obedience from their creation – reading the Nag Hammadi texts it becomes evident that they consider judgement day to be the judgement of yalta baoth and his offspring – not the judgement of us – their creation.

The texts also hint that because these 'gods' did require assistance from sophia/pistis to create humankind - because these gods only have spirit (they have no soul) - because we are borne of them, and endowed with a soul by sophia pistis - the texts teach that these gods are frightened of the day we realise that because we have soul AND spirit we are greater than them.

Anyway I think its an interesting slant.

Originally posted by Grifter42
Archons? Really? You've watched too much Star Trek. All that nonsense about mystical beings is hogwash. Prolefeed approved from the government, designed to delude the public into thinking that our leaders and religious figures are invincible, or beyond the reach of an organized movement of the people.

Listen Bubba - these entities have been around forever, they control the whole game - all of your concepts about what is possible, true or likely have been shaped by them........................including the conviction that they cannot possibly exist!

You sound like the guy from "They Live" now. I'll bite. Hypothetically, if these things are trying to influence us, what's the end game?

You sound like the guy from "They Live" now. I'll bite. Hypothetically, if these things are trying to influence us, what's the end game?

Originally posted by Grifter42
You sound like the guy from "They Live" now. I'll bite. Hypothetically, if these things are trying to influence us, what's the end game?

They were created by accident - the unbalanced 'fall' of sophia into the material realms, this imprinted an unbalanced higher dimensional fractal pattern into the material world. Their proper realm is the interplanetary elemental world - they are essentialy a mineral intelligence, with a robotic-like awareness that is utterly alien to us.

They have no connection to source, no creative powers - only the ability to mimic and utilise pre-existing patterns - their urge is to infiltrate the organic worlds at all densities, seeking a connection to source,hence their interest in human reproduction throughout the ages in their many guises.

Currently they are posing as Greys for the benefit of the US military intelligence - who knows what they are cooking up between them in their underground bases.

You, clearly, are not the only one to have thought about this
This books is about that very idea, Devil's Apocrypha

You sound like a schizophrenic. Jesus, could you discredit the movement any more than that? It's stuff like that that gets the legitimate conspiracies like the Kennedy assassinations, the Business plot, and the stuff about the Fed lumped in with the wingnuts.

Originally posted by akushla99
The Creator created 'everything'.

Yes, God is satan!

Akushla

ahhhhhh...who created "The Creator"?

Originally posted by Malcher

Originally posted by akushla99
The Creator created 'everything'.

Yes, God is satan!

Akushla

ahhhhhh...who created "The Creator"?

Always was...
Always am...
Always will be...

Is this too hard for you to understand?

Akushla
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