We really ARE alone ("Aliens" are not "E.T's" they are "E.D's")

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


You really are a self-proclaimed God huh?

Yeshua (name)
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For other persons named Yeshua, or other claimed transcriptions of Jesus, see Yeshua (disambiguation). For the person, teaching, and acts of Jesus Christ, see Jesus and Historical Jesus. For the Hebrew proper name see Yeshu.

Yeshua compaired to Yeshu, you are saying you are king? King implying you are God?

Why even put that in your avatar if your a believer? Why not properly identify the one you are trying to deify?

You still havent answered my question about the kings tablet from egypt.

Nor did you proove or disproove the fels statue.

I am reminded of the report in the Bible by Ezekiel, very good descriptions (for the time) of et;s visiting his neck of the woods, although, if they have the means to come from light years away, why use chemical rockets? such as the sentence 'and they ascended to heaven on a pillar of fire' ring any bells?

reply to post by tbonedude


Yeshua Ha'Mashiach is the true Hebrew name for Jesus Christ that's why it's in my avatar. !

The date of the fels statue is based off presuppositions and inaccuracies that I don't have time to go into right now.

And please remind me of the the kings tablet from egypt.

translations of the english "god" into Hebrew.

results:
אל
אֱלקים
אֱלהים
ה '
רבונו של עולם
אדוני
שדי
אֱלוה
אֱליל
בורא
הקב 'ה
מקום
בעל נחמות

(1 got lost in the formatting, remember to read from right to left lol)

Angel:
מלאך
כרוב
אראל
טפסר
אדם נחמד

Demon:
שד
דמון
רוח
פגע רע

That's just 3 words.

Now tell me, how accurate you think your precious Bible really is? Especially if it comes down to explaining (or trying to explain) our origins and relation to the rest of the universe?

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


Yet again you avoided the ON TOPIC question? And you flame others for not being on topic? Answer my question and prove or disprove both objects. And Provide citations of why carbon dating is flawed. That dosent mean it is not open to speculation. Carbon dating is not perfect, hense the variations of dates, and why ranges of dates are used.

Point taken, but point being, its still apart of scientific theory, just because we cannot give an exact date does not state the science is wrong. It simply says its not perfect.

Please stay on topic now, ya hear?

reply to post by Romekje


There are people who can read and translate hebrew which they did to Aramaic and Greek and then onto English. I consider the bible to be the inspired word of GOD and nothing less. You are not going to be able to convince me otherwise or sway me from my faith.



Watch this its the secret name of God.

You have time to sit and reply and go off topic, then you have time to explain to me and answer my on topic question.

Quit dilly-farting around and avoiding my question.

And the kings tablet is a granite tablet of all egypts kings and dates that they ruled, starting from 6,500 BC up to around 300 BC when alexendar the great conquered egypt.

This single piece of history (EVIDENCE) is the basis for our current timeline, and history.

Like I said, disprove it please.

This thread was never about E.T was it?

I purposely stayed away from religion in my first post when in fact I could have stated that the catholic church met the idea of the Earth revolving round the Sun with great resistance based on biblical references, it even went as far as trying to silence Galileo from speaking his mind which ultimately led to him being placed under house arrest for the rest of his life.

Publication of Galileo's works were forbidden by the Catholic church.

Lets get back to the point about your contradictory thread.

We really ARE alone ("Aliens" are not "E.T's" they are "E.D's")

In the thread title you claim that we really ARE alone then in the same breath you want us to believe that there is Extra dimensional beings, So what is it? are we alone or is there EDB. You then quote a statement from the Gov that does nothing but deny that the Gov holds any evidence of E.T existence.(nothing more nothing less).

Just because you believe in your theory it doesn't make it right but then again it doesn't make it wrong either, however as the thread went on it did just seem as if you wanted a preach.

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Here is the official government statement on the existence of alien life from Nov 7/2011:

"The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race," Phil Larson from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy reported on the WhiteHouse.gov website."In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public’s eye."

reply to post by RevelationGeneration

TextSure I know some claim are benevolent, but then they start pushing a "new agey" type agenda that denies christ as the savior of mankind and they make out we can become GODs, these so called benevolent ones have also been caught lying aswel by saying they are from a planet which doesn't exist or something like that.

You do realize that what Jesus supposedly taught back then must have sounded like a "new agey" agenda to those people too.

Been "caught" lying? By who, and which events are you referring to?

You do also realize that you are pushing your own agenda as well, right? What makes you any different.
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Jesus was 'technically' an Alien (an ET one) once upon a time.

Why would space aliens come all this way to tell us just this one religious belief, Christianity, is wrong? When there are so many other religions that don’t even agree with each other, except that they are all anti-CHRIST. These entities preach an anti-CHRIST New Age Gospel. JESUS CHRIST warned us to be aware of any angel who comes preaching a new gospel. Could this be what he was warning us of, the message we are seeing from the Alien Entities? They are all about deception. They are here to deceive mankind with there false warnings and false prophetic messages. They will do whatever it takes to make you believe them. The abilities of these fallen angels mirror the ability of these Alien entities. What appears as high technology may only be their actual abilities.

Unflag so others dont need to fall into your hypocritical bs.. and never starred it to begin with.

If you care to ever answer my questions providing proof, links, references, citations, pictures if possible and reputable names and everything, please forward it to my ats inbox.

/rage quit "reason: hypocritical jesus freak"

Originally posted by tbonedude
Unflag so others dont need to fall into your hypocritical bs.. and never starred it to begin with.

If you care to ever answer my questions providing proof, links, references, citations, pictures if possible and reputable names and everything, please forward it to my ats inbox.

/rage quit "reason: hypocritical jesus freak"

I am not answering any more of your questions, they are off-topic and you have been nothing but disrespectful.

take care.

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Tripple_Helix

 

Honestly, I would rather burn in hell than be like you.

If I were you, in future I would choose my words and action very carefully.

One day you are going to regret that.

Did Christ not teach judge not? Perhaps you need to find a dictionary and refresh your mind on the definition of the word.

Last time I checked, your God didn't specify that he delegated the role of jury to you. No matter what you say or however you try to evade it, you just judged another ATS member.

You're overstepping the boundaries and covenants of your own religion and yet threatening others burning in hell for an eternity because their not following it. What gives you the right to judge others for not practicing a religion that you yourself do not? Do as I say, not as I do, eh?

This is why the precepts of your OP are losing so badly. For someone who believes and understands the likelihood of extra-dimensional beings, it's amazed me that you're still intellectually stuck on the blind acceptance of books written and doctored by man.

Sure, there's much in the books of the Christian bible that arguably can be related to E.D.s fighting for our souls. Effectively it's the premise of each book. You're overlooking the fact that some evidence supports E.T.s and E.D.s interchangeably which is why it's odd you've formed an absolute conclusion on one when both are supported. It can easily be argued that the early books of the bible relate to E.T.s who created the earth and it's species, genetically engineered us (Anikites, Nephilm etc.) reset us with the great flood, came from the "heavens" etc. It's simply not scientific to pick one over the other simply because you're caught up in the hype of the latest greatest YouTube video of pertinence to these theories.

Personally, I believe that E.D.s and E.T.s simultaneously exist though I'm unsure of how they relate to each other. Are they one and the same? Is one subordinate to the other? Can E.D.s only be represented as E.T.s in this dimension? I do not know. You do not know. Notice my basic scientific practice and learn from. I clearly separate belief from knowledge. When I do not know, I know I don't know, unlike you.

The discomforts me because you're doing a lot of damage to the acceptance of theories pertinent to E.D.s. On at least twenty occasions in this thread you've presented theory as fact and convoluted the investigation of the theory with your own religious bias. That's just not academic and it's the primary reason why Christianity has lost all spiritual credibility in an contemporary sense. As soon as a whole exploited in Christian theories, it always seems to end with some misguided Christian backed to a corner hissing "You'll be sorry, my God's going to get you, he's going to get you good". This isn't good enough. I don't want the investigation and acceptance of E.D.s to sink with failing religions.

I'll say this to you: believe in a benevolent creator, even in a traditional monotheistic sense if you want but DO NOT rely on the Christian Bible to serve your creator. Sure, you can extrapolate the aspects relevant to compassion, love, faith, forgiveness and morality but that's pretty much it beyond clues about our creation and destiny. With all due respect, you're exceptionally theologically ignorant. How can you not be aware of the religions and cultures that predate the formation Christianity? Why can't you see the same rehashed themes and astrological allegories replete throughout the books? Do you not know that the Celtic cross predates Christ? The symbolism of the cross existed 2000 years before Christianity. I know you want to love your God but you won't be able to until you let your ego, overcome your fears and accept that you were wrong, that you've been lied to and that you've allowed yourself to mislead.

Christianity is all about altruism, compassion and offering it up for higher good. A competent Christian who practices what they preach would know that he/she cannot reach and teach an audience by disrespectfully judging them or forcing them into dogmatic absolutes. A competent Christian who understands the nature of E.D.s would know that he/she needs to cast aside their religious subjectivity and provide their audience with theological evidence instead "it's the word of God, accept it or burn in hell". A good Christian would know that if their religious zeal was deterring others from the acceptance of E.D.s, that they should turn it down a notch or two. The objective is to save souls rather than piously judging people for not having as much "faith" or "wisdom" as you, right? Sort it out.

So what you are saying is that Government told us there was no contact with them so there is no proof or evidence of existence but then you say you believe in UFO phenomenon but from your research those are no UFOs.........

Just tell people you like Jesus but dont believe in any other life form only demons and angels, even thought Jesus is and extraterrestrial. There is no point taking people around corners confusing them with your theories. You wont achieve any conversions to your religion here.

Giving examples of Catholic stupidity throughout history does not disprove the fact that the Bible is the inspired, authoritative Word of God. Nor citing examples of the pope's stupidity. Catholocism stands alone, and will have to answer for its trashing of the Gospel. Fact of the matter is there is no proof whatsoever that beings from another planet exist. What you are displaying is what you often accuse Christians of, which is "blind faith". Difference is in the Christians case, our faith comes through evidence. If you watched the OPs 1st video, something should scream at your conscience and tell you life doesn't just happen randomly. All you have to prove your sacred cow of aliens is crappy blurred footage of lights moving around, persons that are duped in that they are channeling alien entities, and the 'hope' that life can spontaneously form. UFOs are UNIDENTIFIED, so they don't prove anything. I guess I shouldn't expect any less from persons that believe "scientists" can find a tooth in the sand, and a week later create a Discovery channel special about a previously unknown society and culture and mating habits of the unknown owner of the tooth. For shame

Star for Rexusdiablos wonderful post m8

And you wont, because you cant.. as well as they are completely on topic. They date back farther then you can comprehend in your tiny mind and are proof that your logic and theory are flawed.

One only has to have the ambition, to check out J.P.L. or Nasa wich are on the same site, and check out the pic's of the planet's and moons , and you would not be saying these thing's are soler systym, is very active and populated,one thing about Nasa, they are a arm of the milatary and any pic's they take now are of civalazasion, do not let the science tricks fool ya.they are all intel you have to look each picture over closly on some or they hide it with smudging and overlay's of fake terrain, but a word to the wise, they dont catch everything, plus some pic's are left alone, for are enjoyment.the reason i do not know.I want the access of the pic's not giving away my diamonds away justy yet, ATS has alot of pics also amazing pics, so if were you my freind i might think again,before giving your all with a totaly closed mind.

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I wasn't judging Tripple_Helix but only highlighting the hypocrisy in his post.

I do not accept anything blindly, christianity does not require blind faith, it requires trust and then provides you with evidence to support your faith.

I never claimed I Knew everything, but when i don't know about something instead of turning to man I put my trust in our living GOD that know's all things.

I am not biased, like i mentioned earlier I am young in the spirit and didn't become a christian until a few months ago, I spent a good amount of time beforehand researching and reviewing everything with an open mind and humble heart before I did so.

Like I said before I refute the idea of christianity being a religion, and I will not accept that I am apart of a religion. A religion as far as im concerned is man trying to reach GOD, but christianity is GOD reaching out to man through CHRIST JESUS. Religions require works and deeds to make GOD pleased with you, christianity is not like that because we are blessed with GODs grace and love and its that grace alone that enables us to spend eternity with him in his kingdom that he has prepared for us.

It is true when you say Christianity is not the oldest faith, but nothing predates Christ. JESUS IS GOD and GOD has been around for eternity. If you want to argue dates then lets think back to adam and eve who are the first humans of man kind. They were around before any of these other religions even got started. We know that the old testament is the oldest historical document in man kinds history.

I do not have an ego my friend, I wouldn't be a christian if I had one. To follow Christ you are required to lose your pride and humble your self before him, and that is what I have done. I was once a proud person who put my self before others, now that I have been shown that I have a moral responsability I do try to put others first.

Truth is absolute and not relative. If we did not preach hell then it would be like watching a loved one walk towards a cliff and not do anything to save them. I never said anyone will burn in hell but the bible is clear that those who are not covered by the blood of the lamb will perish because GOD is a fair judge and cannot let sin into his kingdom.

I understand you may think I'm a self rightious religious zealot but that is not who I am at all. I simply follow the word and put my trust in GOD instead of man. Yes the bible was written with mans hands but it was through the spirit of GOD. If you have never felt the holy spirit then I know this will be diffuicult to believe. I have personaly felt the holy spirit and I know that its real. The evidence for christ is simply over-whelming. IF I was to one day say "I didn't believe anymore" I would be lying to myself.

I thank you for taking an interest in my thread and I hope that it opened your mind even just a little bit to the possibilty of what these things really are despite the religious hatred wittnessed in this thread.