Mass. School district to close tuesday for ISLAMIC holiday?!

From the article

"Officials claims that the size of the Muslim population as well as a general push for inclusiveness are the reasons behind the policy change. Currently, the district closes for some Jewish and Christian holidays, thus closing for an Islamic holiday is being defended as a common-sense ideal."

Do we not have Christmas and other Christian Holidays off?

This is much ado about nothing. It's their holiday let them celebrate it. The School District has a large Muslim constituency, makes sense to close the school and act rational.

Freedom of Religion. If we are going to make small concessions for us Christians we should do the same for Muslims, Jews, etc... Can't have it both ways, that's would be un-American.

OP is a bigot, of all things to discriminate against you pick something as silly as religion. Let's call off Christmas break then?

reply to post by sageofmonticello


Hindus need their holidays observed as well and they have many . Im sure there are way more Hindus in the US than muslims

Threads like this are always amusing they are stress release for all the muzi bashers. More of the same please I don't mind if people can get all that bent up stress and hate off thier chests. Maybe they can have peace even if its for a little while. Even in your hate of me I happy for you.

reply to post by AllUrChips


America is a multi-national/religious country! It would be ludicrous to complain about Muslim holidays yet you get time off for Christmas, Easter, and all these fun Christian holidays.

Grow up. Not every Muslim wants Sharia law just like not every Christian will love thy neighbour.

First and Foremost, I'm not American, I'm Christian-based and I've never lived there so my reaction is based on the posts and my experience here in Holland.

Closing the district / schools for a religious holiday should NOT be an issue. Religious is still a very important factor in our world's society. I think that ignorance is probably the biggest issue in all this religion-ranting. Having a religious holiday is actually only positive: another day off for the kids, and a beautiful opportunity to teach children about having respect for eachother's believes by learning waht the holiday is actually about. It doesn't matter what kind of religion. Knowing what it means will stimulate respect and tolerance and thus eventually a more peaceful community.

Holland celecrates Christian holidays as well as some Muslim holidays and that is fine by me. But is has become a problem for me to see that most schools, and malls, and workplaces have stopped celebrating Christmas or Easter in an attempt to not make Muslims uncomfortable............. and to not get on their bad side the Musilm holidays are still being celebrated.................This gets me going. If it's all about feeling welcome and equal, BY ALL MEANS go on and continue this wonderful quest.

BUT the same rules MUST apply : Eighter we celebrate ALL or we celebrate NONE religious festivity.

This pussyfooting of the Dutch, afraid to offend the Muslic community, is making the Christian ( or other non-Muslim holiday / believes ) fade into the background. The Muslim aspect stays in sight and as a result... those who need and are looking for the comfort or guidance of a Religion eventually turn to the only one in sight: the Islam. The Islam is blossoming ( good for you, I'm NOT against the Islam ) the other Religions seem to shrivel up. And now everybody screams wolf.

reply to post by AllUrChips


Big deal, boohoo. /eyeroll. In my school district we had a decent amount of jews so we got a bunch of jewish holidays off along with the standard christian ones. So what if there are some Islamic ones in a muslim heavy district too? Is their religion any less worthy than Judaism/Christianity? I don't think so. They're all based on ancient books and a whole lot of "faith", they're all the same and equal.

If they want a day off that's allowed for the other religions than that's fine with me and I'm an atheist. If enough muslim kids would have called in sick anyway than it's pretty pointless to have a school day and just have a bunch of kids needing extra help to catch up. It's not like they're forcing you to celebrate and worship the holiday, they are just saying there's no school. If you don't want them to have this day off then eliminate all the other breaks for religious holidays too.

Ironically, I bet the OP would be throwing the same fit if Christmas or Easter break was canceled. Sorry that you're a bigot who thinks only one particular religion deserves days off. First you make a ridiculous thread claiming alcohol is a conspiracy and should be illegal because you think it's bad and now this.

I'm all for kids getting a few more days off anyway, it's not like another day or two will make a difference or they're really teaching much relevant stuff in school every single day these days. Problem with education is the quality of schooling, not the quantity. I don't remember half of the crap I learned before highschool/college and it sure hasn't been relevant ever again after the silly test for it was finished (for example, knowing the name of every civil war general and other useless crap you just forget like that). Lord knows they'll be spending the rest of their boring lives a slave to the system working 5 days a week 50+ weeks a year. Have a little fun while you still can kids.

If this is indeed a local thing for that school district, then I am completely fine with it. Christian holidays seem to get recognized with some school districts, so why not Muslim holidays as well?

Since when was this ever a Christian country? It was founded on freedom of religion and liberty last I checked. There's not enough Islamic holidays if you ask me.

Where i'm from, a holiday is a holiday! I wish we could have one for every religion! Any excuse'll do!

Originally posted by goldcoin
Since when was this ever a Christian country? It was founded on freedom of religion and liberty last I checked. There's not enough Islamic holidays if you ask me.

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

I don't think they had Allah in mind.

Though i agree on the rest, stop measuring with double standards and allow people to express their freedom of religion.

Let me clarify my stance. While I feel it is important to honor all of the melting pots variety and taste in religious holidays, I also am afraid that eventually the whole situation could turn against us quickly if we do not hold some sense of balance for those freedoms which are not the norm in Muslim states.

I see how the worldwide take over could potentially defeat us if we do not stand up for continuity and our sense of again the word freedom.

Look at what is happening in European countries where they are already filtering over. I do not want to see suicide bombers at every bus stop, or watch as my freedom is wrenched because of the possibility that we have enemies toting weapons under burkas.

I could go on but even reading my own writing it just looks prejudiced and that is not what I mean to say. I respect peoples right to chose their own religious beliefs, but when those beliefs encroach on my private life it is a different story.

reply to post by Ihsahn


Here in the Bible belt where I live, the schools do not allow us to say "Christmas Vacation" anymore, instead it is winter break. So why can they celebrate "Slaughter Day"? I find that word and its practices deeply grotesque, potentially dangerous and offensive.

What has happened to our country when Christmas is a big no go but Slaughter day is welcome?

Originally posted by Romekje

Originally posted by goldcoin
Since when was this ever a Christian country? It was founded on freedom of religion and liberty last I checked. There's not enough Islamic holidays if you ask me.

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

I don't think they had Allah in mind.

Though i agree on the rest, stop measuring with double standards and allow people to express their freedom of religion.

That phrase was introduced in 1864, and became the motto in the 1950s. In my opinion it should have never made it on coins in the 19th century, nor the motto in the 50s.

It's a direct contradiction to our first Amendment of separation of church and state.

Originally posted by Lykantroph11
But is has become a problem for me to see that most schools, and malls, and workplaces have stopped celebrating Christmas or Easter in an attempt to not make Muslims uncomfortable............. and to not get on their bad side the Musilm holidays are still being celebrated.................This gets me going. If it's all about feeling welcome and equal, BY ALL MEANS go on and continue this wonderful quest.

BUT the same rules MUST apply : Eighter we celebrate ALL or we celebrate NONE religious festivity.

The thing is, that anyone who finds Christmas or Easter ''offensive'', is pretty much a bigot. The same as those who would get ''offended'' at any other religion's celebrations. We shouldn't be kowtowing to the prejudiced and perpetually offended members of our societies.

If some non-Christians get their precious emotions upset at Christmas celebrations or Nativity scenes, then that's just tough. They've just got to deal with it. The same applies to non-Muslims getting their knickers in a twist about Eid celebrations, or people, who aren't Hindus, crying about Diwali festivities.

However, I would say that, other than the Republic of Ireland, the Netherlands is probably the most culturally and socially similar European country to the UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if these efforts to downplay Christian celebrations by some authorities in your country were motivated by the same ''types'' who attempt to do the same in Britain.

While some will knee-jerkly turn their wrath towards Muslims and Islam, you'll actually find that most Muslims in the UK aren't remotely bothered about Christian holidays being celebrated, nor are they clamouring and baying for Muslim holidays to be observed.

The problems are largely created by the white, liberal, middle-class, heterosexual male types - not that there's anything wrong with any one of those 5 categories - obnoxiously and patronisingly decreeing what's ''offensive'' to anyone who isn't white, male, middle-class and heterosexual.

reply to post by antar


I will give you one hundred stars if I could, you see exactly the irony on the whole BS that is behind this so call "Islamic holiday", and is just the beginning, the only reason we don't have a full blown take over is because people still have 9/11 fresh in their mind.

But they are working on it.



Islam is not a friendly religion and they follow their own laws, they will never integrated with any other religion that is not their own, something that many here seems to ignore because their lack of knowledge of what Islam is all about.

US laws and Islam laws will clash eventually, plain and simple.

If anybody here from any religion wants to celebrate their own holidays by all means do it, do it at you own leisure, but keep the BS out of our laws, US is a majority Christan nation and has been since its humble beginnings and that can never be erased.

AND I DON'T EVEN FOLLOW ANY ORGANIZED RELIGION.

What a whole bunch of crap.

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by antar

 

I will give you one hundred stars if I could, you see exactly the irony on the whole BS that is behind this so call "Islamic holiday", and is just the beginning, the only reason we don't have a full blown take over is because people still have 9/11 fresh in their mind.

But they are working on it.

Islam is not a friendly religion and they follow their own laws, they will never integrated with any other religion that is not their own, something that many here seems to ignore because their lack of knowledge of what Islam is all about.

US laws and Islam laws will clash eventually, plain and simple.

If anybody here from any religion wants to celebrate their own holidays by all means do it, do it at you own leisure, but keep the BS out of our laws, US is a majority Christan nation and has been since its humble beginnings and that can never be erased.

AND I DON'T EVEN FOLLOW ANY ORGANIZED RELIGION.

What a whole bunch of crap.

This is so wrong I don't even know where to start.

For one, you're confusing Islam with the Islam extremists. True Muslims have been living peacefully in the US since the beginning. But in the past decade or two, this propaganda against them has been absolutely ridiculous. Worst of all, you buy it and then "spread your word"...

If you don't know what you're talking about, I suggest you don't open your mouth, open your eyes and ears to a history book instead.

reply to post by marg6043


Your post shows not only compassion but courage, people will inevitably misinterpret what you are saying and that is the whole mess we face in the future if Islam is allowed to use our laws against us and to further their agenda.

They have in the past and I mean distant past always used their religion to justify taking over the entire world through interracial combining and using their influence and power by sheer numbers to eradicate anything which does not 'follow' and abide by their traditions.

A touchy subject and one that will not end very well for America if allowed to slither into our way of life.

reply to post by stoptheinsanity2012


Maybe that is exactly what it is...
flame away everybody,I can take it!

Originally posted by goldcoin

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by antar

 

I will give you one hundred stars if I could, you see exactly the irony on the whole BS that is behind this so call "Islamic holiday", and is just the beginning, the only reason we don't have a full blown take over is because people still have 9/11 fresh in their mind.

But they are working on it.

Islam is not a friendly religion and they follow their own laws, they will never integrated with any other religion that is not their own, something that many here seems to ignore because their lack of knowledge of what Islam is all about.

US laws and Islam laws will clash eventually, plain and simple.

If anybody here from any religion wants to celebrate their own holidays by all means do it, do it at you own leisure, but keep the BS out of our laws, US is a majority Christan nation and has been since its humble beginnings and that can never be erased.

AND I DON'T EVEN FOLLOW ANY ORGANIZED RELIGION.

What a whole bunch of crap.

This is so wrong I don't even know where to start.

For one, you're confusing Islam with the Islam extremists. True Muslims have been living peacefully in the US since the beginning. But in the past decade or two, this propaganda against them has been absolutely ridiculous. Worst of all, you buy it and then "spread your word"...

If you don't know what you're talking about, I suggest you don't open your mouth, open your eyes and ears to a history book instead.

So by whose opinions are there extremists verses a generalized Islam? By who do these factions become to be called extremists? Think about that...

The peaceful Muslims in the US are not who I am addressing, they chose a different future and are very welcome.

What I am addressing is not so new as the past decade or so, more like the past couple Millennia.

Face it, if this is one of the oldest religions on earth and if it has done nothing to solve the separation, death and torture, slavery in their own countries how do they expect that a full blown world of the same w/ bombs and nuks is going to help?

You mention propaganda, on which side of the propaganda have you bought into?