Herman Cain Sexually Harassed Me...

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Damage is already done...he is dropping in the polls.

And I honestly don't think it is the fact that he was accused of sexual harassement...it is how he handled it.

First he acted like he had no idea whay these allegations were...then he knew a little...then he knew a little more...then he said he is just being attacked...then he decided not to talk about it.

Very poor handling...and that is why he is dropping IMO.

I don't know how many times these idiots have to see things play out exactly this way before they will finally get it:

It's Not The Crime, It's the Cover-Up

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
He is sexually harassing me as we speak...

Show-Off...

Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by gimme_some_truth

 

The timing does seem a tad convenient; Where were these women PRIOR to him being declared as a presidential candidate? Sexual harrassment is a serious charge. Sometimes it is [sadly] cheaper for a conglomerate to pay of in little bits than to fight the chage. I see Cain getting ticked off at the media. I think he needs to come clean in order to survive, even if that admits to the charge. Either way, I think he needs to resolve this issue. I personally believe that the Perry camp created this issue. I personally belive that Perry will make fine fodder for South Park.

edit on 7/11/11 by argentus because: spellin'

How did the Perry camp create this issue if Herman Cain did indeed pay off these women? There is obviously a story here, just what it is we do not know and Herman Cain is not going to tell it. That is a problem any way you want to slice it.

Personally it is my belief that this is all part of the dog and pony show of US politics. It happens all the time. Candidates get built up, then torn back down as the election cycle continues on. It makes for great TV drama and the "intelligent voters" just eat it all up.

Realize it or not, while people are discussing weather or not Herman Cain sexually harassed these women or not what they are not talking about is any real issue that actually pertains to fixing the economy, scaling back the TSA, Homeland Security, Education, foreign policy, Iran, Jobs, NAFTA, health care.... are you getting the picture? Elections is the US are like Made for TV movies. It is a series of sound bites and tag lines with drama mixed in to keep you hooked. The ONLY thing you can do as a voter is listen to the Candidates, then go back and fact check what they say vs what they have done. If it does not match up, you already know the Candidate is another puppet who will screw you over and is simply paying lip service to get your vote.

Originally posted by whyamIhere


#1 Please don't tell me who to like or why.

Show me where exactly I told you who to like and why. I questioned you as to why you like this fellow based on you stating you just like him, and having nothing to do with politics.

I like my next door neighbor, who is always willing to help a neighbor in need, but he is also a registered sex offender. Perhaps that should give me a reason to write him in on a polical ballot.

#2 How are the current "Politicians" working out for you?

About the same for me as anybody else.

#3 What the "Hell" do you think I mean?

Sheesh....

Answering a question with a question is a nice deflection tactic. Nice try.......NOT!

reply to post by supine


Maybe because his Father was a Janitor with three jobs.

Maybe I like a guy that has never been in Political Office.

Maybe I don't feel like explaining to the only person that did not understand the OP.

Nothing like a drive-by on Monday morning...

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth

He is either the horniest, sex crazed maniac ever.... Or.... it's a smear campaign.

I think Bill Clinton has the title for "horniest sex crazed maniac ever". His whole political career seemed to be a never ending bimbo eruption.

reply to post by whyamIhere


There is an obvious (smear campaign) against Herman Cain....he won't win the nomination.....end of story.

Originally posted by caladonea
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

There is an obvious (smear campaign) against Herman Cain....he won't win the nomination.....end of story.

I totally agree with you.

Sad, just the allegations can ruin what appears to be a good man.

Originally posted by caladonea
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

There is an obvious (smear campaign) against Herman Cain....he won't win the nomination.....end of story.

The RNC never considered Cain a serious candidate. He was just used as an image to try and portray the GOP as not being racists. "hey look, we're not racists, we got a black guy too"

They should have investigated Cains background a little better before putting him on the first team. Now he will finish the game on the bench.

You can blame the media, libs, or the OWC for the leaks if you want, but the leaks came directly from the RNC when they deduced that Cain was a loser anyway; no sense in throwing campaign $$$ down a rat hole.

Politics is ugly even on the inside of parties.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
He is either the horniest, sex crazed maniac ever.... Or.... it's a smear campaign.

Or, possibly, somewhere in the middle... Maybe?

I think it's very likely that Cain made some off color remarks to a couple women and a couple more decided to jump on the bandwagon for their chance at being in the news... And clearly, there's a smear campaign of sorts... There would be for ANY politician in his position.

reply to post by whyamIhere


I've been accused of Sexual Harassment, even after I rebuked many advances from her, and took precautions to never be alone with her, and removed some impediments from my office so I would always be visible to co-workers, and I made a call to our Ethics Link and my supervisors to see if I should file a pre-emptive complaint, which they advised me NOT to do. Then, when the inevitable day came that I had to fire her, guess what, she filed a complaint.

They barely even investigated, and I was cleared, and she even took the time to retract her complaint after she realized how much work I had done to try and keep her from being fired, but it doesn't matter. If I am ever to run for office, it will surely come up.

I currently have a voicemail saved on my phone, and many emails and text messages saved on my computer from women who work for me doing things highly inappropriately. If I were to do even 10% of the things they get away with, I would be tarred and feathered and sued into oblivion, and crucified in the press. It is a MAJOR double-standard!! MAJOR!!

But, I still think its a good thing if Cain gets out of Ron Paul's way. He is just a distraction from the Paul campaign and a way to keep the spotlight off Romney and Perry so they don't screw anything up between now and the faux election time. If Cain gets out of the way, there is a much better chance of Perry/Romney exposing their weaknesses and Paul getting a legitimate shot at the nomination.

reply to post by whyamIhere

Sad, just the allegations can ruin what appears to be a good man.

Again..it isn't the allegations...it is the response that is hurting Cain.


And these aren't really allegations...it is a FACT that he was accused of these things...he has created the controversy with his selective memory.

First of all, Cain himsel did NOT 'payoff' the women. His employer, the National Restaurant. Association, did. Both settlements amount to severance packages...which I would guess would be more fiscally sound than litigating a case.

Cain is in his mid sixties...of a generation where the innocent term 'dear,' or 'miss, could you bring me a cup of coffee,' was just a natural way of speaking. My experience has shown that a lot of people work at being offended.

Allred: Cain offered client 'his idea of a stimulus package"

Bialek detailed Cain's sexual overture, explaining that he spent money on a palatial hotel suite for her at the time of their meeting. When they saw each other in the evening, Bialek said he his hand on her leg, "reached for [her] genitals" and pushed her head toward his crotch.

When Bialek objected, Cain asked her: "You want a job, right?"

www.politico.com...
I strongly disagree with the OP that coming forward with such accusations is an easy matter. You immediately set yourself up for every bit a scrutiny, every attempt for one to have dirt dug up on one and the possibility that some could be manufactured. Who among us doesn't have something that they'd rather not reported every ten minuted on Fox or the like.

reply to post by robyn


I would say the mere crassness of the allegations prove they are false. Someone as suave, educated, and successful as Herman Cain would not need to resort to grabbing someone's head and pushing it toward his crotch.

But, on the other hand, Brett Favre did some pretty stupid things, and celebrities and politicians are often caught leaving evidence behind. Clinton surely made an egregious error with his .... .ahem.... evidence.

So, I'll say it anyway, the allegations sound fictitious, and it is ridiculous to think he would act in this manner. He surely has the experience and wherewithall to sexually harass someone more subtly. But, who knows? The accusation is all it takes. We'll never know the truth anyway. The damage is done.

Originally posted by amaster
I support Cain, regardless of these allegations. Sexual Harassment is as lowly and pathetic as playing the race card. The left was desperate to find anything they could use to potentially derail his campaign. Hell, I support him more now than I did before. Ron Paul is great, and I would loved to see him get the nomination, but it will NEVER happen. In my personal opinion, I think the best hope this nation has at turning around is a Cain/Gingrich ticket. They can make Paul the Secretary of Treasury.

Me, too. No, he didn't handle them well. But you know what...that just makes me like him more. He's obviously NOT a silver-tongued politician who can tell us any lie with a straight face.

Also, we have to remember all of the allegations toward Clinton while he was a candidate. They make Cain's look like child's play.

Come on...how many of us women have had a man flirt with us or make comments to us in the workplace? I had a boss who flirted with me. I took it as a compliment and moved on. I could have called it sexual harassment and made a big deal about it, but I didn't. Every little "wink wink" doesn't have to be taken as offensive. Inappropriate touching...that's different. Making you think that your job is on the line if you don't comply...also different. Nothing I have heard made it sound like he touched anyone or threatened their jobs.

EDIT: I wrote this reply before I read the latest article. See my response to that below.

Originally posted by robyn

Allred: Cain offered client 'his idea of a stimulus package"

Bialek detailed Cain's sexual overture, explaining that he spent money on a palatial hotel suite for her at the time of their meeting. When they saw each other in the evening, Bialek said he his hand on her leg, "reached for [her] genitals" and pushed her head toward his crotch.

When Bialek objected, Cain asked her: "You want a job, right?"

www.politico.com...
I strongly disagree with the OP that coming forward with such accusations is an easy matter. You immediately set yourself up for every bit a scrutiny, every attempt for one to have dirt dug up on one and the possibility that some could be manufactured. Who among us doesn't have something that they'd rather not reported every ten minuted on Fox or the like.

edit on 7-11-2011 by robyn because: format

Okay, that's the first I have read about that specific allegation.

First of all, Gloria Allred's involvement makes me suspicious. Sorry-can't help it.

Also, I can't imagine Herman Cain doing what is being charged there.

reply to post by getreadyalready

I see your point but from personal experience - powerful, arrogant people can act very recklessly when they believe they won't be caught.

Aside from the veracity of the accusations, Cain has handled this situation with a degree of arrogance that makes me shudder. This alone speaks volumes.

Why did these four women wait this long to come out with these acusations? Sounds like nothing more than a smear campain to me.

reply to post by joyride0187


Supposedly, and I haven't checked into it, but supposedly the source could be Godfather's Pizza. Now, if that is true, then it raises many more red flags! That is the #1 shining example on his resume, so why would they be out to smear him?

Maybe there is too much liability in uncovering his true resume, and they can't risk it, but they can leak other damaging information?

I don't know, and as much as I despise the "trial by press," I still think this is a red flag we should consider. Cain has many warning bells going off. His time with the Fed, his 9-9-9 plan creating a new tax but not removing the old taxes, his political ties, and now some questionable allegations of abuse of power? I think it is just enough to take him off my viable candidates list. I'm down to a single candidate I believe, and he is in my siggy. It is clickable for a cool rock anthem btw!