Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the Internet

‘NO FATHER WAS EVER THEIR FOR 93% OUT OF ALL THOSE KIDS’ AND OUT OF 10,000 OF THOSE KIDS THAT I TALKED TO,76% OF THEM HAD WISHED THERE FATHER WOULD OF BEAT THEM MORE AND STAYED ON TOP OF THEM.

It does not take a parent to beat their child to instill morals and values and simply just spending time and "staying on top of them" does quite sufficiently . Showing that you are there for your kids, no matter what, makes all the difference in the world. You directly quoted that no father was ever there for 93 percent of those kids. Imagine if he was and was in a good relationship with mom (whether they stayed together or not) and they took initiative in their child's life, offering support and love thorough their childhood--without beating them--do you think those kids would be where they are now?

It's not physical abuse that makes a child who they grow up to be. Just because you are capable of having sex and breeding does not automatically make you a good parent.

reply to post by LogiosHermes27



I hope you don't have any kids if youz being real about whats you say..

Hello.

This is truly an emotive subject indeed and therefore you must forgive me for being less objective than I should with regard to my particular thoughts on this matter.

Many of you have stated that what goes on in the home should more or less stay in the home and that the matter of the judge beating his 16-year-old daughter (according to the mother) is a matter for them vis-à-vis parent, and I struggle to stretch the definition in this case, child.

Some cite the garments she is wearing as lessening the impact. Some state that she cries in fear before she is even hit. All of this is completely and utterly irrelevant.

This video depicts a man who relishes control and power and should be prevented at all costs from holding such a high judicial position. He is not fit to be a judge. What he is doing to his daughter is reprehensible and no better than torture. The fact that his actions are prolonged over time during moments of episodic rage speak volumes. I fear that this has more than likely gone on behind closed doors for some considerable time.

There is no excuse regardless of whatever it is she may or may not have done. Why the video has surfaced now as opposed to when the event occured is neither here or there. At the end of day he is wrong. He should be held accountable, and his more recent lamentations should be treated with the contempt they deserve.

What really disappointments me though is that as a new member to ATS who had high hopes of joining a community of enlightened folks who sought truth, justice and equality for all, this young woman’s torment and suffering and I repeat young woman, has exposed a plethora of the same warped and narrow-minded viewpoints that I encounter in my everyday life. To those whom this sentiment applies, you should be utterly ashamed of yourselves.

I apologise for my lack of objectivity here but some things are just morally wrong.

Yours
Kalanthius Flipside

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
The CNN report posted above demonstrates how idotic the reporting of this case has gotten. It maybe also demonstrates possibly how stupid the general public are reading these stories.

Many thousands of people will read that CNN report. They look at the headline

Lawyer: Charges will be tough against judge in beating video

Its in large bold writing.

Charges will be tough. People scan through some of the story , see what happend and move to the next story thinking , at least the guy was caught and will be punished.

Remember the headline.

But look more closely into the report and pay attention to what is being said ;;

"We're in a fact-finding situation now to determine what is true," he said. His office will look at how the law has changed in the past couple of years, as there could have been different laws in effect at the time.

and

However, a criminal defense lawyer said it was not likely that Adams could be prosecuted.

and

In an offense involving injury to a child, Texas law defines a child as being 14 years or less, said Houston lawyer Chris Tritico. Hillary Adams was 16 in the video.

finally

He said the judge might have been charged with aggravated assault except in Texas, the statute of limitations is three years. The video was filmed in 2004.
"This young lady sat on this videotape for six years," Tritico said. "That's where the problem is."

So many people are convinced this guy will be charged and will be found guilty. Of what , I have no idea.
I think this report confirms there is very little chance of this happening. The Today report also stated charges are very unlightly because of the statue of limitations.

SO why is the headline 'Charges will be tough' used????

edition.cnn.com...

edit on 3-11-2011 by JohnySeagull because: (no reason given)

The video doesn't say that he isn't guilty. But that they may not be able to charge him. 2 different things. He's still guilty and that's all that matters. He still broke the law. There's no dispute of that.

Originally posted by SunnyDee
reply to post by LogiosHermes27

 

I think you need more counciling. Your reasoning of why this is ok, even after you had a father at home who beat the living crap out of you, is ridiculous.

It's one thing to have a disciplined upbringing, it's another to lash out in violence against anyone.

Look at your last post, it's a ridiculous contadiction. Father in home does not equal good kids necessarily.
Seriously, you of all should stand up for this girl!

Beware of brown dwarfs. They could be trolls.

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool
reply to post by LogiosHermes27

 

I hope you don't have any kids if youz being real about whats you say..

She has 7, and admits that she "pinches" her children, one who is less than 2 years old

Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by Cecilofs
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I remember when my stepfather use to come home drunk and tell my mother he was missing money, and of course, the blame was all on me.
My mother beat me with a belt for the first time, and then my stepfather came home and said I stole some more money from him, and she beat me again, the third time he came home and said the same thing which led to another beating in which I was about to hit my own mother due to him blatantly lying, I was just 10 years old.

And one day, he came home and told my mother to leave the house, he told me to take off my clothes in which he decided to tie my legs and hands up, and he started to beat me with rage and death in his eyes, he then pulled a lighter out and tried to burn my tongue. MY mother told me that something told her to come back in which she did.

The only thing I can remember was me standing there naked holding her tight by the waist and looking at him crying.

22 years ago, I applied for an application to a group home to help abused kids; I am now a senior member of child advocacy and one of the first people they call when an amber alert goes off.

I live at this facility 4 days out the week, which holds over 230 of the baddest kids ever, and they all love me just like I love them. My opinions on this matter might contradict every thing that I have just told you BUT….after 20 some years of listing to over 10,000 kids and their problems, one thing and only one thing stood out…

‘NO FATHER WAS EVER THEIR FOR 93% OUT OF ALL THOSE KIDS’

AND OUT OF 10,000 OF THOSE KIDS THAT I TALKED TO,76% OF THEM HAD WISHED THERE FATHER WOULD OF BEAT THEM MORE AND STAYED ON TOP OF THEM.

So when I see this video, I think of those kids not getting enough beatings to keep them on track...PERIOD!

edit on 3-11-2011 by LogiosHermes27 because: (no reason given)

Hasn't that facility you have been claiming to work at been for a while now since been converted into a DHS high tech spy satellite operations center?

Huston.... ummmm I mean, DC we have a problem.

Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by Cecilofs
[mor

I remember when my stepfather use to come home drunk and tell my mother he was missing money, and of course, the blame was all on me.
My mother beat me with a belt for the first time, and then my stepfather came home and said I stole some more money from him, and she beat me again, the third time he came home and said the same thing which led to another beating in which I was about to hit my own mother due to him blatantly lying, I was just 10 years old.

And one day, he came home and told my mother to leave the house, he told me to take off my clothes in which he decided to tie my legs and hands up, and he started to beat me with rage and death in his eyes, he then pulled a lighter out and tried to burn my tongue. MY mother told me that something told her to come back in which she did.

The only thing I can remember was me standing there naked holding her tight by the waist and looking at him crying.

22 years ago, I applied for an application to a group home to help abused kids; I am now a senior member of child advocacy and one of the first people they call when an amber alert goes off.

I live at this facility 4 days out the week, which holds over 230 of the baddest kids ever, and they all love me just like I love them. My opinions on this matter might contradict every thing that I have just told you BUT….after 20 some years of listing to over 10,000 kids and their problems, one thing and only one thing stood out…

‘NO FATHER WAS EVER THEIR FOR 93% OUT OF ALL THOSE KIDS’

AND OUT OF 10,000 OF THOSE KIDS THAT I TALKED TO,76% OF THEM HAD WISHED THERE FATHER WOULD OF BEAT THEM MORE AND STAYED ON TOP OF THEM.

So when I see this video, I think of those kids not getting enough beatings to keep them on track...PERIOD!

edit on 3-11-2011 by LogiosHermes27 because: (no reason given)

I think you're full of it..and it concerns me deeply that someone of your mentality is taking care of kids in a home..

Obviously the beatings didn't keep the daughter on track in this case..and 7 years later she still resents the way he treated her,and continues to ..in the sense that he is verbally abusive.

From the many members who have spoken about how deeply effected they were by beatings.. I think we can safely that there are better ways to discipline.

Many troubled children in group homes are victims of abuse in those homes as well.... lets hope the 'home" you work for doesn't have this problem as well.. though I dare say with your mentality... I am deeply concerned.

she should go to the same courthouse that her father works at and get emancipated....Then she should turn right back around and slap a civil suit on them.....

This is a horrible look for Texas too....Texas Judges = powertrippin trailer trash

I am not trying to rip on Texas but this is a story (with a judge) that I could only see coming out from there.

Child abuse happens everywhere...

But don't get me wrong sometimes children need a spanking....

Originally posted by muzzleflash
It doesn't matter really.

Its not your business what people do to their kids. None.
They created them, it's their call.

I agree the punishment is a bit over the top, and I personally do not use weapons when punishing my children. I do not hit the face or vulnerable organs either.

But I have kids of my own and I totally understand whats going on here.

Over the top? Yes for sure.

Our business? Nope not at all.

Why don't we go after this judge for corruption issues like how they imprison innocents just to keep the $$$ flowing or other actual crimes like that?

This is being torn out of context and it's just another way the Nazi Parent - Police can justify their agenda to strip parents of any rights and allow the government to control all of our parenting decisions.

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We are just animals, get a grip. Stop pushing your own fears and weakness' on me. If this is considered abuse by todays people, then I don't want to participate in society at all. This is beyond sheep mentality. And who cares if I did stuff that led to spankings...you are telling me you didn't go out late or hang out with some kid your parents said not to? I wasn't aware that so many where such docile children . wow. You guys are reacting like people don't flip out and yell or get frustrated.

so because we are animals that is an excuse for this type of discipline?

yes..I broke curfew a few times.. my punishment was a grounding for two weeks....and that was horrible to me..but it sure made me think about not breaking curfew...especially if there was something coming up that I didn't want to miss.

and yes..I have flipped out and yelled at my kids.. its a little different than taking a belt and insisting they lay on their stomachs while I take more than a dozen blows at them.

I don't think any of us are saying we were perfect parents all the time.. and I'm sure there are good parents who have used corporal punishment at times..but not to the extent of this video.

I also think there are parents who used corporal punishment at times..who deeply regret it..like the mother of this young woman in the video has admitted.

Parents make mistakes.. they are human.. but realizing it and admitting it is another thing.

I remember some wise advice given to me when I was a young parent..

" try not to deal with discipline when you are very angry....let yourself cool off ..so your anger doesn't become the issue..and you can effectively deal with the issues with a more rational approach"

Its easier said than done.. but it does give you time to think about what is the best way to deal with the issue.

When I was a very young child, with the clear eyes of a very young child I could see that parents had an advantage no one else had. They had someone they could do whatever they wanted to, someone they had to exercise no civility around - that if they were in a blind rage, unlike everyone else in every other circumstance they did not have to contain themselves, they could just let it rip. Then I got older and I let people talk me out of this observation. People who make excuses, people who justify, people who are themselves brainwashed that this barbarism actually has some reason and want you to be brainwashed too. But I see now my original impression was right. And what is sickening is the number of people who still equivocate about whether it is or isn't alright to torment a child.

Let me ask you parents' rights advocates - if he did this to the family dog would anyone argue that it was okay? If he did it to his wife, would anyone say it was okay? If he did this to his neighbor would anyone say it was okay? Children are in the unique position of being the only life form in the universe still regarded by many as somehow less than sentient. Aren't we all glad we're not children anymore?

I could not watch the entire video clip - I lasted up to the part where he's telling her to get on the bed. I had to turn it off. I did not read through all the posts.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
This is NEVER okay.
This is Child Abuse.
I hope he is charged with an historical account of Child Abuse.
I hope his peers have him sanctioned.
I hope his actions are attentioned by those in a position to see he is legally punished.

I am in Australia - if I was in America I would take the video clip to the nearest Police Station and make a Mandatory Report for Child Abuse. In Australia anyone who works with Children in any capacity, Teachers, Child Care Workers etcetera are trained and expected to make a Mandatory Report. As the word Mandatory suggests it is legal obligation and not a choice.

I hope someone in America reads this and makes an official complaint - particularly someone who lives in the area where the incident occurred or where the Judge now resides.

It is 2011 - this should not be happening we are supposed to be educated - evolved - mature - we are all no better than William Adams when we remain silent. This post is my voice and I hope at least one person can carry it through to some action.

Much Peace...particularly for all the Children who suffer with no one to help them...

Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by Cecilofs
[mor

one thing and only one thing stood out…

‘NO FATHER WAS EVER THEIR FOR 93% OUT OF ALL THOSE KIDS’

AND OUT OF 10,000 OF THOSE KIDS THAT I TALKED TO,76% OF THEM HAD WISHED THERE FATHER WOULD OF BEAT THEM MORE AND STAYED ON TOP OF THEM.

So when I see this video, I think of those kids not getting enough beatings to keep them on track...PERIOD!

Exactly.

And when people get caught committing serious crimes they all were "abused". My feeling is the overwhelming majority are embellishing so people don't view them as monsters. Weather someone is abused or not doesn't give them the right to abuse strangers...if anything you should be more likely to feel compassion for others, I dont buy into those jailhouse interviews.

Honestly, while the whipping looks bad it's probably not child abuse (BTW...my father abused me (punch) once then I left the house and walked right to the MPs. He was a major and never did it again). What really disturbs me about the video is that neither parent , particularly the father really looked out of control. To me, it looked like the father was justing getting his kicks. Almost like it was a very normal thing. The mother looked like she felt as though she had to hit her a little bit just to justify the father's beating. She looked as though she had too.

I totally agree with Hilarie and Amanda5..if I beat my dog like that I'd be arrested for animal cruelty ( and rightly so), so how does someone think it's okay to treat a child this way? It's sickening!!

Originally posted by Malcher

Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by Cecilofs
[mor

one thing and only one thing stood out…

‘NO FATHER WAS EVER THEIR FOR 93% OUT OF ALL THOSE KIDS’

AND OUT OF 10,000 OF THOSE KIDS THAT I TALKED TO,76% OF THEM HAD WISHED THERE FATHER WOULD OF BEAT THEM MORE AND STAYED ON TOP OF THEM.

So when I see this video, I think of those kids not getting enough beatings to keep them on track...PERIOD!

Exactly.

And when people get caught committing serious crimes they all were "abused". My feeling is the overwhelming majority are embellishing so people don't view them as monsters. Weather someone is abused or not doesn't give them the right to abuse strangers...if anything you should be more likely to feel compassion for others, I dont buy into those jailhouse interviews.

So you don't think that when a child grows up in an environment where they are shown no compassion they won't have a problem learning compassion? You think they would be MORE likely to learn compassion? Sorry but that is ridiculous.

It makes perfect sense why people who grow up being treated badly(from a young age) often feel the need to treat people badly if you understand anything about psychology...

This is horrible, and that man is a judge? clearly as usual, those that seem to force the laws on other people cant follow them themselves. This guy should be out of a job and into a jail for this. Some dad. Don't get me wrong, punishment is fine but this isnt punishment...this is extreme violence. I was shocked from the moment he started at how out of control he is.

Originally posted by MCJustJ

Originally posted by Malcher

Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by Cecilofs
[mor

one thing and only one thing stood out…

‘NO FATHER WAS EVER THEIR FOR 93% OUT OF ALL THOSE KIDS’

AND OUT OF 10,000 OF THOSE KIDS THAT I TALKED TO,76% OF THEM HAD WISHED THERE FATHER WOULD OF BEAT THEM MORE AND STAYED ON TOP OF THEM.

So when I see this video, I think of those kids not getting enough beatings to keep them on track...PERIOD!

Exactly.

And when people get caught committing serious crimes they all were "abused". My feeling is the overwhelming majority are embellishing so people don't view them as monsters. Weather someone is abused or not doesn't give them the right to abuse strangers...if anything you should be more likely to feel compassion for others, I dont buy into those jailhouse interviews.

So you don't think that when a child grows up in an environment where they are shown no compassion they won't have a problem learning compassion? You think they would be MORE likely to learn compassion? Sorry but that is ridiculous.

It makes perfect sense why people who grow up being treated badly(from a young age) often feel the need to treat people badly if you understand anything about psychology...

People who grow up with perfect parents turn into bad people all the time. It is just common decency to treat other people (including your own children) with respect so if a child is in a bad situation at home does not mean (at all) that they will grow p to be criminals. You are righting people off too easily. As people get older and turn into adults they are responsible for their own actions and decisions. Do you look at children of criminals and automatically decide they are going to be criminals too? I admit the child in a bad home is at a disadvantage but like all abusive situations the only way to end that is to get out of it as soon as you can.

Somewhere, someplace a new criminal will be born and few (if any) parenting differences will change that.

Wow! This video is on Nancy Grace