Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the Internet

Originally posted by 547000
You people are so predictable. You are just trying to remove teaching morality and discipline from the hands of the family into the state. In fact many people argue that teaching religion is a form of child abuse, but have no qualms with the state indoctrinating kids to be secular humanists. I wonder if homeschooling will be banned next on some silly pretext.

That's my greatest fear here.
And that is why I am willing to duke it out and I am willing to take any amount of flak that it costs to do so.

We need to protect families rights to decide for themselves, and we need to resist the temptation to empower the state to have ultimate authority over every little thing that goes on within the home.

There will be no privacy left, no liberty, no family. There will only be the state and it's infinite power.

Originally posted by FingerMan
You take Muzzleflash out of context with your quotes. Don't get personal. Debate the issue.

If this truly is an old video, then why oh why has it become the scorn of the internet as of late?
It was even on Foxnews.com LOL!

Wether they were taken out of context or not, they're still valid statements. As I was reading them, I was thinking to myself, "isn't this supposed to be some kind of attack on muzzleflash?"

Uhhh, the debate is basically "Is this child abuse?"

No. It isn't. I've already outlined abuse a few times.

Originally posted by graphuto


Dude I kind of wanted to say the same thing. The people that frequent this site I thought were all about keeping nanny state to a minimum, but it's this exact kind of crazy false outrage at something that is a non issue that gets all of this crazy binding legislature passed...

Not if I have anything to say about it.

There are some of us here who will stay true to the principals of liberty and defend family rights vs state tyranny no matter how painful it becomes, no matter the abuse dished out to shame us into changing our position.

This is one of the most important central issues of our time. Not the story about this family in the OP, but the story about how people react to it and how they seek to impose tyranny upon others whom they disagree with.

Yea, this whole thread is kind of the most disturbing thing in that regard. 120+ flags and 60 pages of replies of everyone crying "abuse, abuse!"

I mean, the support for the nanny state BS is just so overwhelming that it's mind boggling.

I have not seen a single person debate that child abuse is good. It's not good it's unacceptable and disgusting.

However the OP video is not child abuse technically by law, nor is it defined as such after reasonable inspection of the facts available.

Originally posted by graphuto
Yea, this whole thread is kind of the most disturbing thing in that regard. 120+ flags and 60 pages of replies of everyone crying "abuse, abuse!"

I mean, the support for the nanny state BS is just so overwhelming that it's mind boggling.

Have no fear my friend.

We live in a Republic that rules by law (at least it appears this way on paper, we will see how it turns out in reality).

The government was created to defend and uphold the liberties of the citizens through Constitutional protections.

As long as we can uphold our Constitutional law, there should be nothing to fear. The mob can never rule in this system if we can adhere to it's founding principals, because the law protects all citizens no matter what side of the fence their opinions may fall.

Will people follow the law? I do not know. I certainly hope so.

i grew up not too far from beatings like this, heck my grandpa use to beat us all the time for being trouble makers. im not saying it's ok, i just don't think this was too much of a bad beating considering we were beat in similar ways. i have no children and when i do i don't think i would beat them like this.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I have not seen a single person debate that child abuse is good. It's not good it's unacceptable and disgusting.

However the OP video is not child abuse technically by law, nor is it defined as such after reasonable inspection of the facts available.

You defended this however! He just enjoyed delivering that beating and verbal abuse just a little to much. It's not discipline when you get off on inflecting pain which is exactly what Judge Adams did.

I don't want the state intruding in my life either but If I treated another human being like this; I would expect legal action of one sort or another.

I don't care if some complain about a "nazi state" but no one, not even parents should be allowed to discipline their children with violence.

it might have been seen as normal back then but that doesn't mean its right. It shouldn't matter if you're their parent, any kind of violence towards a child should NOT be tolerated. I don't know why they haven't classified spanking as child abuse yet but it should be.

Not even dogs are disciplined with spanking or any kind of violence, so why should kids suffer through that? Nothing good comes out of it, and the only respect the kid shows towards you afterwards is just out of fear.

ATTENTION - once again...

For those that are struggling to discuss and debate the topic in a level-headed manner, please review this thread:

An opposing viewpoint is NOT a valid reason to complain & It takes two to tango

It takes a lot to annoy me but reading a few pages of recent posts on this thread did it.

Muzzleflash's standpoint about how the actual beating is none of our business is bang on and I wonder why he even bothers defending himself against this flawed argument. Parents will thrash their kids of it suits them. Litigious 20/21st century horse=# and hype will not change that.

50 plus pages of posts and stiil the main point is ignored. This hoodlum is a corrupt judge who is hopefully now under investigation. The very existence of this video shows a typical judges home on any given evening.

As I said these judges are the peak of the civil corruption pyramid that all organised crime eminate from. Sick twisted child abusing criminals who constantly revel in their world where they are answerable to nobody.

there have been networks in place for years using tried and tested formulas for swindling child support out of parents by lesser earning parents by using deception to obtain custody. This is all done by corrupt lawyers law guardians and judges.

heres one, caught for something unrelated and nobody even asks the question how someone this nasty could have become a judge. Nobody even seems to care that he is a corrupt judge. and this is the only reason they are seeing this video of him enjoying belting his daughter

There are millions of sick a'holes doing this to their kids every day, I think the point being missed here is that guy is supposed to be a better person than that. Publicly trusted to make life changing ruling on ordinary innocent lives who pay taxes and expect justice from the US legal system.

So, put simply heres someone who is paid massive public funds to make important decisions and is supposed to have some level of wisdom and common sense beating a child mercilessly. If he was anything OTHER than a judge it wouldnt be our business.

The morality of what he did is not what should be in debate here. Its the boorish sadistic bully boy act being indicative of the capacity for corruption that should be getting discussed here. This guy sees everyone in his sight as subject to his whims, Answerable to no-one, Until now.

Threads like this are always great to see the human hypocrisy factor in action.

"His violence was wrong! I want to commit violence against him!" "His violence was wrong! I hope someone commits violence against him!"

Lmao...... And I wonder why the world is burning down around me :/

reply to post by muzzleflash


I have a few things to say to those that defend this abusive father/man (?)

I see that some who have defended this guy (by claiming it is a family affair) have also commented on 'police/authority figure' actions as "ABUSIVE", by one way or another.

ie: muzzleguy. (see any of your own posting history regarding violence (in general or vs cops):

"You should never shoot anyone.
1. Don't shoot cops, don't shoot Iraqis or Afghans, don't shoot anyone.
The PROBLEM in today's society is violence and ignorance.
Creating even more violence will never make the violence stop, it only perpetuates and accentuates it. "

ummm okkkk,

OR, your comment about:

"That's what we the People want!
Justice, Love, Freedom, Fairness, Equality.
We want to be treated like real human beings!
They say Lincoln abolished slavery, what a crock that is. He just made Everyone else slaves and turned the whole country into a plantation.
Well I am sick of it!
I am an abolitionist. I am here to end slavery.
Just keep spreading the truth, that's their weakness.
This system of slavery is built upon lies. "

Goose, Gander much??

so what you are saying is that children are not 'citizens' worthy of respect nor anything but slaves that have no need to be treated like "human beings" because their natural parents/or foster or any authority figure should not be in control of their anger enough to respect a child's body/mind? But, cops should be in control of their mind/body enough to not abuse citizens because they cannot assume we are like their children that need 'learnin' a lesson'? Being an adult/citizen/over 18/educated or not does NOT make one more respectable and less-worthy of an beating than any child of sixteen.

hypocrites, hmmmphhh
perhaps they/you need a whoopin' as such with belt, someone can say 'whoo's your daddy' to you, if it makes ya feel better.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I slept on it.
I can't believe I even entertained you folks yesterday.

This is the most overblown and absurd story of the year, BY FAR.
I am so disappointed in the emotional knee-jerk reactions you people fell for.
Brainwashing is easy, all that is required is to hit your emotions and boom, your under the spell.

I've seen bombings, murders, trillion dollar thefts, poisons all over, and THIS - a tame belt whipping - somehow is a hotter topic than all of the others.

Belt whipping > Tsunamis > War > Politics > Economy
That's the order of how important these issues are, with belt whipping being the most important.

You can drop the holier than thou speeches. You keep acting like if people care about this story, that we all the sudden don't care about anything else. I think most people DO care about all those things PLUS this story. How is this so hard to comprehend?

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I don't support child beaters, stop painting me in nonfactual ways.

I am supporting parents legal right to discipline their kids however.

There is a difference.

Ok? You even said in the first page of this thread that he went over the line(ie. is abusive), and now you're trying to sell us on the story that you just support parent's legal rights? That would be like me saying, "I don't support rape, but I am supporting sex with anybody, regardless of the outcome". So you don't condone the parents actions, you don't condone child beatings, but, you condone parents doing anything they want to their kids, which could include child beating.....got it.

reply to post by TravisT


Ok? You even said in the first page of this thread that he went over the line(ie. is abusive), and now you're trying to sell us on the story that you just support parent's legal rights? That would be like me saying, "I don't support rape, but I am supporting sex with anybody, regardless of the outcome". So you don't condone the parents actions, you don't condone child beatings, but, you condone parents doing anything they want to their kids, which could include child beating.....got it.
edit on 3-11-2011 by TravisT because: (no reason given)

Apples and oranges but true,

Some people just want to post for the sake of posting, perhaps forget what they posted because of too many beatings or dropped on their head (and obviously that is a-ok, since well they were his parents so they must know best and we ought to mind our beezwax.

reply to post by angus1745


Interesting points, you really got me thinking.

This guy does most likely swindle child support out of countless families via litigious tyranny.

And this caused me to realize, that is exactly what the mob wants to be done to him, create even more litigious tyranny and rip even more families to shreds in order to legislate parenting.

If only we could do away with the majority of this abused and unfair system, than perhaps we wouldn't have most of these problems to begin with?

This story is the perfect example of why we should not even have a state-mechanism of breaking families apart in the first place.

Judge William Adams personal DOX are posted everywhere now included in the comment sections of the viral videos. Apparently he turned his phone line off (this number is no longer in service ) after his DOX were posted on our pastebin

WE have quite a bit on our plate these days but nothing we can not finish. His career will soon come to an end his lively hood questionable. We will see he is reported to CPS accordingly non stop until something is done and child removed from home to a safe place. He will be held accountable for his crimes. Or expect further action.

These people in power and child abusers alone will not be tolerated under our watch!

That is all

Expect us Judge William Adams

You are no Honor

Originally posted by muse7
I don't care if some complain about a "nazi state" but no one, not even parents should be allowed to discipline their children with violence.

This is very interesting as well.

So you are willing to accept a pure tyranny if it claims to "protect the kids".

However this is misleading because what would be done to these kids in this highly tyrannical system? Forced inoculations? State indoctrination? Forcing cutting-edge medical experimentation upon them in the name of "health" even if the statistics reveal huge numbers of adverse side effects?

What really will that world be like? Ask yourselves.

And all of this for a mere belt whipping? Really?
Not on my watch.