Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the Internet

The FBI could be all over half of you posters with your threats and hollow insinuations about getting revenge etc.

You are essentially terrorists waiting for the emotional cue to go commit acts of violence.

That's the essence of brainwashed.
Sleeper cells everywhere.

reply to post by OzTruth


You threatened to kill me. It's in the database.

Why aren't you banned yet?
Oh yeah, because I vouched for you and had I not, you would be gone already.

I will not reply to you anymore, I cannot hold a reasonable discussion with a murderous psychopath.

reply to post by muzzleflash


Your views are lone and have been getting shut down all thread and now you come here to add more...

You are one sad case, we can all see you support this type of abuse, you pick fights just to act cool or provoke people to lose it, whose the coward?

You talk about being blown away, maybe you should be but in the other way....

you have kids which you have stated, so show them the video and tell them how appropriate it is...

But you won't because they would leave you in shock... I feel sorry for your kids because they have a parent that condones this type of abuse.... I wonder what you have done to them...

Excellent work you have lost so much credibility with your immoral troll behavior.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by The_Phantom


So you think the government should protect him, but not his daughter from him?

Is that right?

You are all political terrorists essentially.

He is a father within legal rights.

YES OF COURSE I DO!!!!!!

Just because my line of argument was so good, I'm going to post it again...

That's all I wanted to know, you're all for government intervention in protecting child abusers. But government intervention in protecting the victim of the abuse is government intervention and shouldn't be allowed. Now I know that the hypocrisy of your view point is plain for all to see, I rest my case.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by OzTruth

 

You threatened to kill me. It's in the database.

Why aren't you banned yet?
Oh yeah, because I vouched for you and had I not, you would be gone already.

I will not reply to you anymore, I cannot hold a reasonable discussion with a murderous psychopath.

Because I didn't, keep clutching at straws. Youre a disgrace.

You heard that? You are terrorists waiting for the emotional cue to awaken and go out lynch mob style, and oppress the rights of anyone you decide you don't like.

You are the reason we had to form a Republic, to protect people from your feigned rage and reckless behaviors.

People have a right to a trial if they committed crimes, but in this case it's not even a real crime, and yet the wild mob already declared execution the best solution.

Hell I had execution declared for me just for standing in the witch hunt's way.

Shame on you muzzleflash ,Shame on YOU !!!
7 years on ATS and to have such view .... embarrassing for this good site

Originally posted by muzzleflash
The FBI could be all over half of you posters with your threats and hollow insinuations about getting revenge etc.

You are essentially terrorists waiting for the emotional cue to go commit acts of violence.

That's the essence of brainwashed.
Sleeper cells everywhere.

You wouldn't to have the balls to say any of this to our faces, your comments are on par with a coward

I hope DHS comes and takes your kids off you for supporting child abuse..

Pathetic....

reply to post by The_Phantom

It's about right vs wrong.

It's right to protect a citizen from the lynch mob.

It's wrong to go into people's bedroom and declare bloody murder over a belt whipping.

Let me guess, the pitchforks and torches are already in hand....

Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by The_Phantom

 

It's about right vs wrong.

It's right to protect a citizen from the lynch mob.

It's wrong to go into people's bedroom and declare bloody murder over a belt whipping.

Let me guess, the pitchforks and torches are already in hand....

If that's the stance you want to take, then you should take the same stance for the victim of the abuse, nobody is stopping you from doing that.

reply to post by muzzleflash


so, survivable - no harm, no foul?

Inasmuch as you have done it for the least of My brothers, you have done it unto Me.

I'm agnostic - but this has always meant something to me - it's very powerful

it's a code we can all live by

we don't harm one another

we're trying to have a civilization here muzzleflash

Originally posted by xavi1000
Shame on you muzzleflash ,Shame on YOU !!!
7 years on ATS and to have such view .... embarrassing for this good site

edit on 2-11-2011 by xavi1000 because: (no reason given)

Shame on you for being pro-lynch mob and anti-civil liberty.

This wasn't even real abuse, had it been perhaps my opinion would be different, but we won't ever know because the billion cases of true abuse are overplayed by this.

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis


we're trying to have a civilization here muzzleflash

A civilization based upon lynch mobs, witch hunts, and declaring punishment for someone without even knowing half the facts or having any true investigation.

Your civilization sounds like Salem in the 1600s.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
You heard that?

You mean you read that???

No audio here, but I shouldn't be surprised at your lack of intelligence.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis


we're trying to have a civilization here muzzleflash

A civilization based upon lynch mobs, witch hunts, and declaring punishment for someone without even knowing half the facts or having any true investigation.

Your civilization sounds like Salem in the 1600s.

You seem to want it both ways, either the government get's involved or it doesn't.

The abuser should not receive protection that the abused doesn't have available to them.

Originally posted by The_Phantom


If that's the stance you want to take, then you should take the same stance for the victim of the abuse, nobody is stopping you from doing that.

What victim of abuse?

Oh someone who got hit with a belt?
What a joke.

The guy is about to face actual violence from random do-gooders, who are actually violent emotion-driven psychopaths who think they know best for everyone else and will threaten violence against those they disagree with.

Originally posted by The_Phantom

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis


we're trying to have a civilization here muzzleflash

A civilization based upon lynch mobs, witch hunts, and declaring punishment for someone without even knowing half the facts or having any true investigation.

Your civilization sounds like Salem in the 1600s.

You seem to want it both ways, either the government get's involved or it doesn't.

The abuser should not receive protection that he abused doesn't have available to them.

You are ludicrous.

The girl is 23. She isn't even within the threat of any retribution from her father.

But the father's life is in jeopardy now. I hope you enjoy losing your own freedoms due to your own espoused belief in mob-justice.

I'm watching the video now... this dude is hitting her in ANGER. I've taken several child development psychology courses (and keep up on the research and statistics surrounding these and similar issues) and there are a few common understandings regarding corporal punishment. First of all, it differs from abuse. Corporal punishment should given with the sole intention of discipline, if it's not, it's probably physical abuse or bordering on such.

Also, it's understood that physical discipline should be implemented only when the goal of its use is to prevent further misbehavior by the child. Why else would it be used, you ask? Well, take this video for instance. Clearly the father is acting out of rage, an egregious amount actually considering the nature of the girl's "crime." Even if an expert is an advocate for corporal punishment, you'd be hard pressed to find one (of reputable scholarship, anyway) that would approve of a physical punishment being administered by an angry parent. Corporal punishment should ONLY be used when the parent is of a neutral, objective mindset. If they're angry, they need to wait until they've calmed down. If they're a rageaholic, they should NEVER be the parent to administer discipline to the child. It mucks and muddles things up way too much.

Furthermore, corporal punishment is successful (again, statistics are divided as to whether it's ever really "successful" in terms of preventing future misbehavior) only when the least amount of force necessary ("necessary" being a debatable concept here) is used. A swat on the butt for a kid who gets too close to the road, for example. A two-year-old, mind you.

If the parents' intention sole intention of introducing corporal punishment as a behavior deterrent is the PREVENTION of further misbehavior, WITHOUT causing unnecessary psychological and physical trauma to the child, then they MUST administer it without anger and in parallel with the severity of the child's act. In this case? Take the kid's computer away. If not downloading illegally is a rule in someone's home, and the child breaks that rule, beating them two dozen times with a belt is a completely inappropriate punishment.

My parents spanked me when I was a toddler for doing dangerous things (playing with matches, etc). THIS IS DIFFERENT. Personally, I find corporal punishment itself to be lazy parenting. Wtf does a kid learn from it? Nothing, except to hate and fear their parents.

reply to post by muzzleflash

This wasn't even real abuse

Another to add to the other quotes of you supporting child abuse troll!!!!

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by xavi1000
Shame on you muzzleflash ,Shame on YOU !!!
7 years on ATS and to have such view .... embarrassing for this good site

edit on 2-11-2011 by xavi1000 because: (no reason given)

Shame on you for being pro-lynch mob and anti-civil liberty.

This wasn't even real abuse, had it been perhaps my opinion would be different, but we won't ever know because the billion cases of true abuse are overplayed by this.

Stubbornness is not good ... ...admit it now that you are wrong and that your eyes and your brain tell you that what you see in this video is WRONG and very bad and let this thread be closed.