Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the Internet

Originally posted by muzzleflash
You folks are so contradictory it isn't even funny.

Here we are dropping bombs on nations and BLOWING THEIR KIDS TO BITS and you all want to freak out on a guy using a belt to whoop his child?

Get your priorities straight people.

"Did the authorities see this"? -- What?

Are you saying parents are not the 'authority' over their own progeny and instead the US Govt should have precedence and power over all of these types of decisions?

This is a farce and it really shows how contradictory and screwed up our nation really is.

Why don't we just hoist up a Swastika and start worshiping the almighty government? Because that is where this is leading, to promoting government authority to strip parents of their authority.

You folks really need to mind your own business.

Hey man I was in DC at the anti war rallies 10 years ago. Also idiot soldiers under the orders of scumbag generals are dropping bombs, not me. Politicians didn't listen when millions of us marched on their political seat of power. I don't support any violence, even in the name of obedience. Negativity doesn't even achieve proper results when trying to create a stable behavioral pattern in developing humans. How many times does that guy reward his daughter for doing something right? I'd like to know that.

Originally posted by Donoso
Anybody defending the actions of the so called "father" in this video is a piss poor parent and or a mud sucking cretin. Sorry folks, if you find the girls "crime" worthy of a rage infused, perverted, belt spanking you simply do not belong in modern society. I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful countries with astounding cultures that'll take you in. Make sure you don't get beheaded though! Who knows what silly crimes you may commit without even knowing!

Well, "this" piss poor parent has raised some fantastic youngsters who make me extremely proud. They are respectful of others, but most of all, themselves. They care about others and know there are consequences when they do something wrong. When you're young, it's a spanking. When you're older, you might get fired, your spouse may leave, your reputation will not yield respect from others, or worse...you might go to jail. They are complemented everywhere they go. They are at the top of their classes. They are loved by their peers.

There is a distinct difference in loving discipline and enraged abuse. This was a very fine line, in which many are horrified to see. But I, like so many others, know how much worse it can actually get, and this was not that bad compared to what we've endured. Furthermore, it isn't technically considered abuse by law....period. Whether you agree or not, matters not.

The double standards of "woe is her for having cerebral palsy, and how DARE they do that to that poor, helpless girl", and the fact that she premeditated the filming of this, held onto it, then RELEASED IT to publicly humiliate him to foil his election...I'm sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it too. She's no innocent wall flower. She knew exactly what she was doing.

The girl disobeyed direct instructions by the parents, not once, but SEVERAL times by downloading Kazaa, and using it to obtain illegal copies of media. Trust me...she wasn't that scared of him. I was TERRIFIED of my parents, and breaking the law??? No freaking way!!! Kids who are truly abused would never do such things.

This father, as terrible as this scene seems, and as much as I disagree with his approach, probably made his biggest mistake by not lovingly disciplining her consistently when she was younger. This is what happens when kids DON'T get disciplined enough, and an accordion effect takes place. They get out of control, push and push and push until the parents can't take any more, and then rage takes over and the discipline tends to cover everything they did for the past year or so. However, once the kids reach a certain age, it's no good, and you risk enraging your own children. Even the Bible warns against that. (For those of you who care.)

I don't agree with the approach of the father, however, I can empathize with exasperated parents trying to deal with a problematic kid who is breaking the law and threatening your very livelihood. I've known people in far worse situations, and it really pushes families beyond their breaking points.

And if any parent here claims to have raised their kid perfectly in EVERY SINGLE SITUATION, I ask you step forward, because you're the only ones qualified to throw stones. If you've never yelled at your child in anger, or spanked a little harder than what you should have, or even had the courage to spank your child to ensure they will follow direction in a life or death situation, rather than get mouthy and argue, then congratulations...you're a new breed. But if you're like everyone else, making a mistake here or there, how would the world view a video of you on your worst day? Would you be the monster, or would there be two sides to the story? Would that video be an accurate portrayal of who you are?

Not defending....just simply trying to get folks to stop personalizing this and taking sides. Why can't we view this from both perspectives and stay neutral? This happened almost 8 years ago, and she's just now posting it. I don't think she's the victim now. Let karma do her work, watch quietly, and learn the lessons so it doesn't become you one day.

Originally posted by JohnySeagull

Originally posted by NadaCambia


That's 25% at best. And that's going with the claims that in 1 in 4 are abused, which I doubt.

you doubt 1 in 4 are abused. you think people claiming to be abused are lying?

why would you object to cameras in your home if you have nothing to hide.

people have no idea exactly how many children are being abused. allowing cameras into homes would allow the goverenment to monitor people and stop any behaviour that is against the law.

surely people who object to this are merely people with something to hide?

children must have the right to a safe and secure upbringing free from abuse. the only way to guarantee this is to monitor them in their homes.

you have said the many shouldn't have to suffer for the actions of the few. but this is what has happened in the catholic church? a few priests commited crimes and now most people have no problem as referring to the church as bunch of paedos.

I asked you for statistics, where are they?

And yes, I believe in innocence until proven guilty and obviously deny government cameras into every bodies homes.

I'm not sure where this is going, did you have a point you were hoping to make?

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by wlord
my dad never hit me, and if he did i would punch him in the fkn face. that # don't fly with me

Right, because it's ok for kids to beat their parents, but, never ok for parents to beat their kids.

I understand, I totally do.

Would at least be self-defense in this case, wouldn´t it? I Agree that its as wrong to beat your parents as it is to beat your children. But if the other side starts, why not defend yourself?

Originally posted by Gseven


Says you, who is the verbally abusive one. Ironic. Learn the whole story about what this girl did, then you might view the story a bit differently. There's always two sides to every story.

Okay I see the guy hitting the girl, did the girl hit him first? Is he defending himself? He must be defending himself if he's hitting a person like that? Otherwise it means he's the aggressor.

Glad this is here! I just saw this on another site and I was really sickened by what he did to his own daughter! What the hell is wrong with people, and the wife! Condoning this!

I hope he gets jail time! That poor girl. Having children of my own, it really broke my heart seeing this, there's NO EXCUSE to do this to your own child.

reply to post by jrmcleod


maybe he is. i have no idea.

its good you don't feel the need to copy what was done to you.

what was normal punishment for most people 30years ago is now classified abuse.

infact most people got battered at home and at school. there was no escape.

I just did a simple research and found this.
I believe it just show how sick this judge is...
www.scam.com...

reply to post by Gseven


Those are some really good posts. I like your neutral standpoint I really do, it's usually the best position in many of our ATS debates.

You have wrote out some very deep thoughts and made many great points in your posts. I am very happy with the effort and thought you put into your work.

Keep it up ! I am looking forward to seeing more from you in the future in other threads Gseven!

Originally posted by spurge
Glad this is here! I just saw this on another site and I was really sickened by what he did to his own daughter! What the hell is wrong with people, and the wife! Condoning this!

I guess both were abused this way as children and see it as a normal thing. Aparently, hitting and punching your child is the american way of parenting, that's my impression after reading most of the posts here.
If you can't raise your children without violence, you did something massively wrong.
My parents never hit me they never even thought about that. Did i do some wrong things as a child? Sure, but they rather talked about it with me and told me why it was wrong. That helped a lot more than going berserk with a belt.

If that's the way it goes in the "land of the free" it's no wonder that country has so many criminals, retards and idiots running around. Physical abuse turns people into bad people.
And what this guy did was abuse, hitting her multiple times rather hard...that's abuse and he should go to jail for that (and hopefully get raped there 5-6 times just to feel a little pain himself)....and somebody like that is a judge

That brings back some memories. My mom used to do this almost on a daily basis and with no less force. She was a pretty stocky woman. At any rate this son of a B**** better be prosecuted for this. everyone else in the world that does it is. As a Judge he should set higher morals for himself and set a better example, not only for his kid, but everyone else as well. These Judges are all hypocrites anyway. I wish Anonymous would take all judges out, they're all corrupt. I know, you're probably thinking aha! That's why Phenomium hates women. I don't hate women, I hate ugly, stocky women, that act like men, and look like men and I hate women that have the inability to refrain from manipulating and seducing real men from doing their bidding. That pretty much covers most of them, mind you, but not all women. If you don't manipulate men, or seduce them and you don't try to be a man in today's world. I like you as a woman. BTW, this video is very hard to watch. I also commend the woman in this video, I know sh'es putting on a big front in the presence of this a**hole of a man, but she did say at the beginning of the video, that I already spanked her, and when she fought to get the belt away from tha Judge, she did hit her on the butt one good time, but it was a necessary evil, because this Judge clearly did not want to stop. He just wanted to keep going and going. The woman knew she had to give her one good hit on the butt to constitute it as punishment in the judges eyes, but on hit on the butt vs. his lashings all over her body would be well worth that sacrifice....trust me, I only wish I had someone back in the day to do that for me when my mom was using rubber hoses on me and it seeming like it went on forever. I have a feeling this Judge is in very big trouble one way or another. The girl video taped it from her computer, lol. I know this was accepted in the past as a punishment....but doesn't this contitute "terrorism" today? I know quite a few other people that Judges like him are calling "homegrown terrorists" for doing much less than this.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by NuminousCosmos
My only wish? That somebody would've called those "Nazi" police when my mom started the sexual abuse.

So why didn't you?

Are you not capable of pressing a simple 9-1-1 on the phone?

Call me confused.

Ok. So after reading this entire post this stuck with me the most.

Muzzle tries to make a point of the parents being soley responsible for the discipline of their children, and it is no one elses business. But then an ATS member makes this comment about their sexual abuse and all it is met with is "are you not capable of calling 911?"?

Are you freaking kidding me? A six year old is an innocent child who never, ever deserves sexual abuse. Perhaps the almighty muzzle knew what 911 was at that time, but i suspect he simply has no clue. This child might have been threatened with worse violence or death if he revealed the abuse, and you mock him by questioning their state of mind at the tender age of 6?

You sicken me. You make it painfully obvious that there is never a time you would step in to stop an abusive parent, sexual abuse or torture notwithstanding, and obviously view your children as property, and nothing more. No doubt a "children should be seen and not heard" parent.

reply to post by ShadowAngel85


Smacking a child for doing something bad is one thing, but this is just outright assault and way overboard.

I just want to see this go viral, and it looks like it is. Hopefully this a$$hole gets what's coming to him.

Originally posted by NadaCambia


I asked you for statistics, where are they?

And yes, I believe in innocence until proven guilty and obviously deny government cameras into every bodies homes.

I'm not sure where this is going, did you have a point you were hoping to make?

go and visit the abuse support sites. you will find all the information you seek there. its not difficult to find.

if you deny cameras in peoples home you cannot guarantee that the children will not be abused.

the point? people hide things. hide in their homes. bully and beat and abuse.

people are screaming mad at this video. as i said before if all the abuse was put up on youtube there would be no room left for any other videos. this is one instance.

what if everybody has a video of the mistakes they made in life put up on youtube and then the angry mob decides the punishment.

this is where society is heading. everything is being judged immediatley by a baying angry mob.

Originally posted by SSimon
I just did a simple research and found this.
I believe it just show how sick this judge is...
www.scam.com...

Interesting find. It's from 2010, a year ago.

It does reveal there is some messed up stuff going on, but we don't have proof of it either. I am not doubting it's veracity however due to the circumstance and randomness of it.

Considering the way these parents fight over their kids, make up rumors and lies against each other, try to get kids to say things, etc: Causes me to think I live in a world of ridiculous drama queens.

Just another point against government authority, all people try to do is lie and twist so they can use the government against people they don't like.

If I am correct here is the court web page, with a picture of the honourable judge. Oddly enough the contact page for emailing the judge is not working. I wonder why.

Aransas County Court-At-Law

9And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

10And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

13And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

King James Bible Genesis Chapter 4 Verses 9-14

Are you your brother's keeper? You sure are! Each of us are responsible for the other. Remember one nation under who? GOD! We are all in the same family!

reply to post by muzzleflash


I don't know what to say but i am 50% sure you are trolling or something .... because your posts are so full of bull ...

Taken out of context?
Its ok for kids to beat their parrents but vice-versa it shouldn't be ok? When the guy who posted clearly stated that he whould do that ONLY IF his father hits him?
You whouldn't get involved in the lives of that family even if its for a good reason?

What the hell man?

Originally posted by ShadowAngel85

And what this guy did was abuse, hitting her multiple times rather hard...that's abuse and he should go to jail for that (and hopefully get raped there 5-6 times just to feel a little pain himself)....and somebody like that is a judge

Interesting point of view.

So it's ok to rape people you don't like 5-6 times just for good measure...

But it's not ok to use a belt on a kid?

Thank you for the very revealing post. I appreciate it.

reply to post by muzzleflash


How about anyone come try to beat me before their kids? Beat? Did you actually say you defend the right for someone to BEAT their child? Were you 'beaten' as a kid so you think it is ok? You sound like that because you accept it.

There is discipline and there is abuse. What is accomplished with what that man did? Nothing. Except fear. The mother than says take it like a 16 year old. I will guarantee he beats his wife also.

Smacking a child's ass and beating a child are two totally separate things...if you do not know that, you should not be parent.

I would love 4 minutes with that jerk off...4 minutes would be all i would need to make him scream and kick and cry like the poor girl he BEAT....

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by wlord
my dad never hit me, and if he did i would punch him in the fkn face. that # don't fly with me

Right, because it's ok for kids to beat their parents, but, never ok for parents to beat their kids.

I understand, I totally do.

It's not okay, but at least you could say of a child they don't know any better. Grown adults, parents no less, don't have that excuse. Even though a couple in this thread might like to think there' justification for it, yourself included