HALLOWEEN! The ONE night of the year its ok to take candy from STRANGERS!!!Why?

reply to post by Rockpuck


In both of your defenses, humor doesn't translate well through text.

Originally posted by kellerphoenix
We also take presents from an old man who hangs out with midgets on Christmas.

I remember one Christmas Eve, putting my head down early and waking up at about 11.30pm, then walking down stairs - bleary-eyed - only to witness Santa emptying his sack right underneath my Christmas tree !

Originally posted by Aeons

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

The myths of contaminated candy are just that...myths. There are no documented cases of children being poisoned or finding needles in their candy. The halloween scare that wasn't so funny.

And crime is at a 30 year low, things are not worse. You can look at crime records from 100 years ago, and they are the same crimes. Nothing has changed.

And the last thing the US needs is someone advocating that people take away the last day of the year that we actually go to see our neighbors.

Actually, I've found candies opened that have been injected with things, and needles in packages and once in an apple.

Hate to be that guy but, pics or it didnt happen. Surely you would take pictures of this "needle" in your apple. It seems you have no proof, and I'm sure the police would't concider you a bother for turning in candy injected with drugs. Proof Pls

Originally posted by Rockpuck
So in other words.. because it's an ancient tradition.. and we shouldn't be afraid of our communities. The World is no crazier today than it was in the past, we are simply more aware.

When I was a kid, both Halloween and May Day were candy-oriented. We dressed up and got candy on Halloween, but on May Day we made little baskets of candy and left them on other people's doorsteps. Tit for tat, I suppose. And of course, in America men give women candy on Valentine's day, although I understand that in Japan women give candy to men.

Either way, it's still a bit more civilized that wassailing, which people probably don't even do anymore because of the lawsuits -- going from door to door as a mob around Christmastime and demanding booze, and if you don't get it you trash the house and beat up the resident. That seems pretty harsh compared to Trick or Treating.

As for them being Satanic, I hardly think so. These old traditions go back way before Christians came along an introduced their tedious and boring old Satan to the mix. These holidays are still owned by the Old Spirits like Jack O'Green. Satan is a punk new kid on the block compared to these guys.

reply to post by Blue Shift


lol, I recall wassailing from one of my studies on medieval Britain (I majored in history) and don't remember anything about going door to door demanding booze. Wasn't it singing to trees? Like caroling, going as a mob to sing to apple trees. Though .. now that you say so .. a booze oriented Halloween for adults sounds like a fantastic idea! Go door to door and get a small shot of whatever they offer, maybe a beer (or 3) .. yes ..I think we can make this holiday work..

My kids are taken out by me and only trick or treat in our immediate neighbourhood. I don't know where you live but in the 6 block radius we pretty much know everyone. Although, we do still check the candy for fear more of what happened prior to our neighbours buying it.

I have to disagree that more kids go out now than years prior (although I don't have actual stats). I find each Halloween there are less kids, and less houses giving out candy. I guess their parents are party poopers like you!

Like someone said...it's one of the last holidays we can celebrate...and even that is coming to an end. Schools here are either cancelling all festivities or limiting them to a small part of the day so as to not upset people of other cultures and religions that don't celebrate......soon we won't even be able to decorate our houses for Christmas because "why would you want your kids to take presents from a stranger (Santa Claus)"

Blah, people should just mind their own business and let others enjoy themselves. If you don't want to partake...DONT

Michelle

reply to post by AllUrChips


Dude chill.

Just inspect your candy.

WhenI was realy young our local school in my subdivision would scan your candy for you. had officers and some other there too . real quick.

But really, just check your kids bag for anything that doesn't look like a brand name candy and toss it out if you are that worried.

Tell you kids not to eat anything that is already opened. Some kids won't want to throw away candy so tell them you will get some a new piece or candy bar if they throw the already opened stuff away.

At some point your kid just needs to be smart for his/her self though and KNOW right from wrong.

Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

LOL


The first person who came in just destroyed your argument and thread and showed how wrong you were... you then attack HER for being defensive??


Are you serious?


You're fear mongering and moaning about a holiday that many people love.


Get a grip.

edit on 31/10/11 by blupblup because: (no reason given)

How does a thread WITH NO FEAR MONGERING in it get accused of fear mongering???? Seriously? I was making an observation about a stupid kids holiday and you people (some of you) act like idiots and try to turn it into an argument! As far as getting owned? If you call getting off the computer for a while to WORK then ya I got owned huh? You get a grip, and a life g'day.

I remember when i was 6-10 i'd go trick or treating but it wasn't overly popular. Skip forward a generation, i don't think a knock or bell has rang at any house in the past 10 years (im 27 and from Australia).
Theres always something wanting to grab your money, the cycle just goes on all year from birthdays, easter, mother/fathers day, halloween and Christmas just to name the main lot.

I don't even know many people that celebrate Christmas anymore unless they have children. Australians certainly don't decorate our holidays like the you yanks.

Answer: Slack parenting

Because every month has something in it that costs a small chunk of change for most Americans...January-New Years (dresses,shoes,party goods , alcohol,etc.)
February-Valentines Day (candy , flowers , stuffed animals and cards)
March-Depending on the calender-Easter/St. Paddy's day (cards,baskets,easter garb for kids,candy,eggs,St. Paddy's paraphernalia,green beer,party stuff,etc.)
April-Easter-Same as above...hmmm..if not , wow , maybe we get a break!
May-Mothers day-(gifts , cards , flowers , candy,etc
June Fathers Day-(cards,ties,etc)
July-need I explain any further?



We are Hallmarked to death every month and that's not including birthdays , hell , now they have a card for when someone loses their job....pretty grim

Going a bit extreme there.

Just relax and Click me if you want to have fun?

Originally posted by cetaphobic
reply to post by Aeons

 

Unfortunately the burden of proof is on you, as I have already posted many sources claiming you are just lying to fearmonger.

I really don't think you should call him a liar.. and quite honestly just because there are no documented cases.. on the net..I might add..doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

I know what he means when you you call police..and they make you seem like a bother..

I highly suspect that police would have a very hard time trying to prosecute cases like this..considering the difficulty in trying to target who gave what, and where...and that is probably the only reason why there isn't more 'documented" cases..

The proof of burden lies on you to show that this is not the case..

The member you called a liar.. has told you his story.. but i guess unless its been a criminal investigation..and posted on the net.. it means he is lying..

I might add there are companies out there ,who make a bundle off selling halloween candy.. and anything they can put up on the net.. to encourage people to still practice trick or treating is very much to their advantage.

The world is not crazier than 10 or 20 years ago.. the media is more proactive about playing on viewers fears.. and national coverage of a single missing kid in hundreds of millions creates a false perception of how dangerous normal things like trick or treating are.

You were subjected to the "safety check"? You and the media are ruining everything. Teaching everyone to fear their neighbors. Community is being replaced by gated neighborhoods and constant suspicion. Getting candy from door to door is not the same as taking candy from a man who is asking you to jump in his van. People do not trick or treat alone.. and there are a ton of people on the streets.. even if a pedo was giving out candy.. he wouldn't do anything bad in this circumstance. You can site trick or treat nightmare stories.. but they are such a small fraction of a percent. It'd be more dangerous to get on a school bus.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

The myths of contaminated candy are just that...myths. There are no documented cases of children being poisoned or finding needles in their candy. The halloween scare that wasn't so funny.

What nixie_nox said is fact. There aren't any documented cases whatsoever. Some odd years ago there was a story run by virtually every news outlet saying that there were some cases...but they turned out to be bogus. Now everyone and their mother thinks this myth is a fact, yet it never happened. A good story that shows just how little you should trust the mainstream media(this includes fox news).


Allurchips, you ask a question in your title. "Why?"
But you hint at the answer in your op. You say you would never let your kids trick or treat without you being there. and there's the answer. Most people think as you do. Most parents supervise their children, at least until a certain age. Do you remember when you first trick-or-treated without parents? I'll bet that you not only were old enough, but probably begged your parents to let you go unsupervised with your friends.

Plus, the vast majority(90%+) of people are good. A little misguided, perhaps, but good nonetheless.

Originally posted by ujustneverknow
Because every month has something in it that costs a small chunk of change for most Americans...January-New Years (dresses,shoes,party goods , alcohol,etc.)
February-Valentines Day (candy , flowers , stuffed animals and cards)
March-Depending on the calender-Easter/St. Paddy's day (cards,baskets,easter garb for kids,candy,eggs,St. Paddy's paraphernalia,green beer,party stuff,etc.)
April-Easter-Same as above...hmmm..if not , wow , maybe we get a break!
May-Mothers day-(gifts , cards , flowers , candy,etc
June Fathers Day-(cards,ties,etc)
July-need I explain any further?



We are Hallmarked to death every month and that's not including birthdays , hell , now they have a card for when someone loses their job....pretty grim

You realize almost every culture has been like this right? The romans had monthly holidays(and their holidays often times lasted days or weeks, not just a single day), and I assume that they bought things back then on those occasions. I know they at least bought a lot of wine during those occasions.
People need holidays. Sure, they might be commercialized in our current society, but cultures have had many holidays since time immemorial.

Actually, we have very few holidays compared to some older cultures.

reply to post by Ghost375


Sorry, the myths aren't myths. I don't care if you don't believe me.

Check your kids bags. How freaking hard is that?

Trust in God, but tie your horse.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

The myths of contaminated candy are just that...myths. There are no documented cases of children being poisoned or finding needles in their candy. The halloween scare that wasn't so funny.

And crime is at a 30 year low, things are not worse. You can look at crime records from 100 years ago, and they are the same crimes. Nothing has changed.

And the last thing the US needs is someone advocating that people take away the last day of the year that we actually go to see our neighbors.

Bam, you just took the words right out of my mouth... Damn near word for word.

*High five*

That said, while they are myths.... I must admit, I still encourage parents to check through the candy, to at the very least, make sure, there are things they are not allergic to or open or spoiled candy.

To this day, I and no one I have ever met has ever really had a needle in their candy. Same goes for Poison...

But as long as parents check through their kids candy anyway.... No problem.

Originally posted by Quoop

Originally posted by Aeons

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

The myths of contaminated candy are just that...myths. There are no documented cases of children being poisoned or finding needles in their candy. The halloween scare that wasn't so funny.

And crime is at a 30 year low, things are not worse. You can look at crime records from 100 years ago, and they are the same crimes. Nothing has changed.

And the last thing the US needs is someone advocating that people take away the last day of the year that we actually go to see our neighbors.

Actually, I've found candies opened that have been injected with things, and needles in packages and once in an apple.

Hate to be that guy but, pics or it didnt happen. Surely you would take pictures of this "needle" in your apple. It seems you have no proof, and I'm sure the police would't concider you a bother for turning in candy injected with drugs. Proof Pls

I was a kid! A kid without any parental supervision whatsoever. A severely poor kid at that, so even if it had occurred to me to take a picture, I don't think we even owned a camera and if we did it sure didn't have any damn film. The damn candy was probably the most calories I consumed that month. Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by Ghost375

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

The myths of contaminated candy are just that...myths. There are no documented cases of children being poisoned or finding needles in their candy. The halloween scare that wasn't so funny.

What nixie_nox said is fact. There aren't any documented cases whatsoever. Some odd years ago there was a story run by virtually every news outlet saying that there were some cases...but they turned out to be bogus. Now everyone and their mother thinks this myth is a fact, yet it never happened. A good story that shows just how little you should trust the mainstream media(this includes fox news).


Allurchips, you ask a question in your title. "Why?"
But you hint at the answer in your op. You say you would never let your kids trick or treat without you being there. and there's the answer. Most people think as you do. Most parents supervise their children, at least until a certain age. Do you remember when you first trick-or-treated without parents? I'll bet that you not only were old enough, but probably begged your parents to let you go unsupervised with your friends.

Plus, the vast majority(90%+) of people are good. A little misguided, perhaps, but good nonetheless.

How hard can it be to understand? WHY IS IT OK to ASK STRANGERS for candy ON THIS NIGHT????????WHY??????