mass grave of 2,000 ethnic Germans in Polish town

reply to post by ClydeFrog42


I'm not rationalizing the death of millions of people. I never denied people died. The "fact" that Jews were targeted for extermination is one of the biggest lies ever told.

If the Japs would have invaded the Us and liberated the camps that the US had for the Japanese, what kind of stories do you think would be made up by the Japanese? I'm sure the stories wouldn't be much different. Its called war propaganda buddy.

If the German's wanted everyone in the camps to die why the hell would they go through the trouble to delouse things?

Only one group of people wants to keep the 2nd World war in our living rooms 24/7. Its time to let it go.

reply to post by ClydeFrog42

I know for a fact that there is no coverup of history. Why would there be? how could there be? Who is the person perpetuating millions of pieces of authentic period-dated evidence, and for what purpose?

I do not know what happened in the wars, but there is always coverups in history. Propaganda and deceit is rife in war and the winners write the history books...
Look at what happened in Libya for example. The official story being that this the Gaddafi was an evil dictator that everyone hated. That he was in contention of international law and had to be removed.
The truth of the matter is that he was well loved by many of his people and by Africa. That the countries that attacked him have broken numerous international laws and have the blood of millions on there hands in the name of oil...
Truth is relative. It has more than one side. Im not saying Jewish people never died in the war. But it should not be a social taboo to discuss these matters. It is healthy!

Happy days

Purp...
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reply to post by purplemer


I agree man, its hard to even figure out the truth on Libya which JUST HAPPENED. Even with all the communication technology we have. News and Information way more tightly controlled back then than it is now.

reply to post by mayabong


Yes, but hindsight gives us so much more to work with, sources only build up as events come to light.

Of course, nobodies denying there aren't cover ups in history. But, the sheer importance of WWII, and the magnitude of documentation that came with it, is beyond controvertible. You can deny discrepancies in facts, you can make arguments about particulars, but we are far beyond the point where you can take the underlying narrative, ignore it, and turn it on its head.

Just take a look at Mien Kampf, which came long before the war. Theres enough motivation right there... unless Mien Kampf was written in anticipations of WWII (which is crazy). Do you forge that hitler was the ideological force behind the most disruptive, totalitarian, antisemetic regime in the history of earth?

It doest make any sense at all...

Originally posted by mayabong
reply to post by ClydeFrog42

 

Glad you were able to watch a whole hour documentary in 5 minutes.. another miracle.

All i needed was 1 second. You couldn't make me watch more then 1 second of that garbage at gunpoint. If thats the evidence, excuse me while i laugh.

"Ha Ha"

reply to post by mayabong


wow i've been reading your posts for quite a while and always thought you were just anti zionist,which i fully support, but now your true colours have been shown, well done mr holocaust denier. My grandads polish and he had a lot of his family gassed in auswitch, all for you to turn around and say it never happened. It turns out a lot of you anti zionists are slipping up recently.

Originally posted by Thetawave
reply to post by mayabong

 

wow i've been reading your posts for quite a while and always thought you were just anti zionist,which i fully support, but now your true colours have been shown, well done mr holocaust denier. My grandads polish and he had a lot of his family gassed in auswitch, all for you to turn around and say it never happened. It turns out a lot of you anti zionists are slipping up recently.

edit on 2-11-2011 by Thetawave because: .

Questioning what happened with the holocaust is not a bad thing. I had relatives that died in the war does that mean I should not question the offical line of events. They died to keep me free so that I have the ability to question things without persecution...

and question I will!

:-)

reply to post by purplemer


It was actually in reponse to mayabong, who denied jews were exterminated at all. what do you expect people to say to BS like that.

reply to post by Thetawave


Ah yes the racism card, seems to be getting old. Just cause someone you know died in WWII doesn't mean what you've been told were facts. Just cause someone questions a historical event doesn't mean they are racist. This is usually the only response left when the historical event in question has no legs to stand on.

reply to post by ClydeFrog42


See you are not open to the "other side" of the arguement, even when it comes from the mouth of a Jew. You must have a horse in this race somewhere.

Still waiting on some proof of lampshades and soap... since the testimonies coming out of those camps are so believable.

reply to post by mayabong


yeah the racism/anti semetic card, truly deserved for your post saying jews were not exterminated. critic israel all you want, but to say jews were not exterminated is pathetic. next you'll be quoting the protocols of zion as fact. oh wait ....

also i'm not saying dont question it, but you said

There was not extermination of Jews. This is a lie to gain sympathy.

That's not questioning, your saying it's fact, when did this site become a hub for stormfront ?

from a member who cannot post atm..

Hi, I'd love to contribute to your thread but I have a post ban on me at the minute for being naughty.
I have a book called - An Eye For An Eye :The Untold Story of Jewish Revenge Against Germans in 1945. It used to be hard to find, perhaps that's changed. I know it was hard for him to find a publisher because it dealt with facts that tptb try to deny to this day. In the book he alleges that jews killed an estimated 100,000 Germans at the end of WWII and held them in 1000+ concentration camps all over Poland.
These weren't German soldiers, but civilians inc. old people and babies. They were tortured severely and their captors escaped justice. Whatever you read about the holocaust this was just as bad if not worse.
For more info see wiki, then look up Solomon (Shlomo) Morel.

en.wikipedia.org...:_The_Untold_Story_of_Jewish_Revenge_Against_Germans_in_1945


www.johnsack.com...

reply to post by Thetawave


Yes in my research thats what I believe. The mass extermination thing was war propaganda. What the hell is stormfront?

reply to post by mayabong


I have read piles of credible Jewish testimony, that makes your videos look like a reiculous joke...

So, when you can present your side of the argument with peer reviewed sources, and bibliographical link to relevent primary sources, i will consider your side of the argument. But nobody would even take either of those films into account as "evidence"...

Anyways, your ignoring the obvious that that your wrong. No amount of youtube videos changes that

reply to post by purplemer


The real story is of Germans who were killed during the violence that erupted during their forced emigration from the occupied east.

Yes, germans were forced by communists (represented 25% by jews) to emigrate, and, to nobodys surprise, those emigrations were far less "civil" then the peace agreement promised they would be.

Uncovering atrocities committed by both sides is part of the excitement of WWII history. We know jews were sympathetic to communism (how could you not be, knowing what what on the other side?), and that they were responsible for the deaths of ukranians, poles, and germans, and probably other ethnic groups.

Still, even taking into account something like that, the underlying narrative remains the same. Its just this start denial of millions of mass murders that takes me back...

reply to post by ClydeFrog42


I don't see you refuting any evidence in that video. I guess interviewing the guy in charge of Auchwitz is a bad source? lol.

Oh thats right you didn't watch it because its on youtube and not made by speilberg.

reply to post by mayabong


ahahaha.

So... this guy, now old, comes forward... and he says, "oh, i weas lying, it was my imagination".

And now, hes on TV, and was trying to get a movie deal.

Hmmmmm....

Great evidence though.... i guess you can just throw all the other, real evidence out the window!



Edit:
I mean... comon... think for 2 seconds. Its embarrassing to fall hook, line, and sinker for something as laughable as that. If i used a source like that in my dissertation, I would fail... and not because my teacher is a zionist sympathizer...

reply to post by ClydeFrog42


I'm not talking about that video I"m talking about the david cole video.

reply to post by mayabong


hey man, your the one who posted it as evidence. So now its not open to criticism?? bit hypocritical, dont you think?

I read about "David cole"

If you want youtube videos, look at this debate with the guy. Its ridiculous...

www.youtube.com...

based on poles like the roper pole?? lol.

www.ihr.org...

The argument is completely baseless, to say the least...

So, for the so called "evidence" you put forward, it is extremely easy to dispute.... I find it interesting that you can base your beliefs on this garbage.

You know... zyklon B wasn't the only gas used by the nazis.

this guy seems so sure based on the windows and doors 50 years after the fact...

He ignored the Jewish issue as much as you do.

The plaques as Auschwitz were changed in the 90s because Stalin ordered the number changed to equate jewish and polish suffering. it is extensively documented. There issues are non-issues, as far as anyone who takes history seriously is concerned...

Just think for 2 seconds, and educate yourself. then you will realize how big of a farce this is. Its no wonder these guys are being persecuted.

i just watched that David Cole video for a few minutes... that guy has absolutely no idea what hes talking about! Jesus christ, he sounds like a moron! I could name things hes saying for days that are absolutely provably false. I cant believe theres 7 parts to that video, and that anyone would subject themselves to that brain-melting garbage