WARNING: OWS is a Trap!! Get off the Streets Immediately

And I'll most likely wake up at November 6th finding that things are like November 5th...
But I enjoy reading these discussions

Originally posted by darkest4
reply to post by PrimePorkchop

 

Thank heavens, at least someone out there gets it. Its sad when people on ATS who actually demand evidence, sources, credibility and proof for big claims are more and more becoming the minority. People here now just full on accept any conspiracy story/prediction from any random dude, who they know nothing about, with ZERO evidence or sources JUST because it fits in with their personal world view, or sounds exciting to them, or they want it to be true.

People here will tell you till they're blue in the face how everyone else in the world is a sheep for blindly believing a single thing mass media/govts/etc say, yet they're perfectly willing to believe random bloke number 89,890 on the internet who post a story with insane claims of conspiracy/doom/yadayada and of course never any evidence, expertise, credibility or proof. Talk about irony.

This community used to actually have at least some great investigation and what not, now it's just another joke where any random attention whore who makes up a doom and gloom story/prediction, with no evidence or credibility to back it up, can come and get their 15minutes in the spotlight and have tons of people eating right out of their hands. Sad really.

OP, see you on the 6th when nothing happens and you make an excuse or change the date or come up with some new bogus story or just disappear like the rest of the know-it-all bogus prophets here.

edit on 30-10-2011 by darkest4 because: (no reason given)

I couldn't have said it better!

ATS has now unmistakably identified it's true self.

95 flags....im gettin a headache.Sad world we live in

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus



It wasn't really the Soros part of that sentence I was pointing out to you - it was the 'anti corporate communist agitators' part...lol. What do you think fascism is? It's corporatism pure and simple. Who votes for board members? And yet these corporations are dictating to our governments. That's not a republic and its not a democracy - it is a fascist state.

Now as for that American culture (I was grateful for not being a part of) I was referring to what you had actually said:

Care to tell me how you back up your claim? Or do you have a bias against Tea Party. Let me guess, you listened to CNN...Communist News Network, and Nancy Pelosi's claim that Tea Partiers were terrorists destined to create violence?

Tell me - why should I give a rat's ass about the Tea Party or Nancy Pelosi?

I was not referring to your later addition;

The Cult of Freedom and Liberty the Founding Fathers of America devised with our Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights?

Which were for many generations aspects of your society to be much admired but in this age of corporatism these values are not ebbing away - they've gone.

This is what your pro corporate stance achieves.

Meet the Indonesian Workers Who Make Your Nikes

As long as these corporations get away with this kind of exploitation citizens in America and the emerging economies have no chance of improving their quality of lives. Re-level the playing field - demand decent wages and conditions for all the world's employees and then maybe the States and other western economies may actually be able to compete with them again.

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

First i believe that OWS is a legitimate protest movement.. how would crippling the central banking system be in favour of the elite?

How is it a "legitimate protest"? How does OWS expect to "cripple the central banking system" by standing there and yelling at buildings on Wall Street and beating drums at them?

They are conducting psychological warfare operations upon the people who work the gears and pull the levers of the capitalist machine the same way the US military used music in the middle of the night to smoke out Noriega during the conquest of Panama.

reply to post by InformationAccount


OK, I can accept that explanation, although for the life of me I can't see how they expect to make it work. Most psyOps work by working on someone's psyche - beating the opposition within their own mind. I'm just not seeing that at work here, so it's either a brilliantly diabolical plan or a spectacular dud. Only time will tell which, I reckon.

Originally posted by jameshawkings
Get them off the streets now before it all turns nasty. Martial Law is required before WWIII is started......

........ There will be chaos on the Internet when CIA Hacking Group Anonymous take down Facebook on 5th of November. It's also Bank Transfer Day on the 5th of November i.e withdraw your money from the banks at the same time. The Bankers/Elite are creating a false flag crash of the system, which they will blame on the protestors . ......

I have only dropped into this thread after reading a couple of pages but the ASX ( Australian Stock Exchange) suffered from a 4 hour (from memory) glitch the other day.

Maybe a bit of seeding so if there is a "technical glitch" that causes the system to crash, there is a history of history to point to?

But then again, maybe not

Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

It wasn't really the Soros part of that sentence I was pointing out to you - it was the 'anti corporate communist agitators' part...lol. What do you think fascism is? It's corporatism pure and simple. Who votes for board members? And yet these corporations are dictating to our governments. That's not a republic and its not a democracy - it is a fascist state.

Now as for that American culture (I was grateful for not being a part of) I was referring to what you had actually said:

Care to tell me how you back up your claim? Or do you have a bias against Tea Party. Let me guess, you listened to CNN...Communist News Network, and Nancy Pelosi's claim that Tea Partiers were terrorists destined to create violence?

Tell me - why should I give a rat's ass about the Tea Party or Nancy Pelosi?

I was not referring to your later addition;

The Cult of Freedom and Liberty the Founding Fathers of America devised with our Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights?

Which were for many generations aspects of your society to be much admired but in this age of corporatism these values are not ebbing away - they've gone.

This is what your pro corporate stance achieves.

Meet the Indonesian Workers Who Make Your Nikes

As long as these corporations get away with this kind of exploitation citizens in America and the emerging economies have no chance of improving their quality of lives. Re-level the playing field - demand decent wages and conditions for all the world's employees and then maybe the States and other western economies may actually be able to compete with them again.

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edit on 31-10-2011 by christina-66 because: (no reason given)

Great post - people are so scared of "commies" that they don't realize that extreme capitalism has exactly the same affect. Balance, rationality and humanitarianism is what is required to be a sustainable, peaceful and prosperous global community.

reply to post by christina-66

What do you think fascism is? It's corporatism pure and simple. Who votes for board members? And yet these corporations are dictating to our governments. That's not a republic and its not a democracy - it is a fascist state. Now as for that American culture (I was grateful for not being a part of) I was referring to what you had actually said:

Way too simplistic. You are inferring that corporatism is the only criteria for a definition of fascism? You fail to understand that Totalitarianism is a more accurate definition, while the nationalism of Nazism is what differentiates it from International Socialism. Hitler just figured out that co-opting corporations helped his cause. The Rockefellers funded the Bolsheviks, so care to explain that one? Soros funds Tides and many other leftist front organizations.
Sometimes when people call others fascist, it is to imply that the person supports the Police State. This definition seems to apply to anyone supporting the police in any way. By the way, I do not support all this checkpoint and TSA activity. And I do not support the Patriot Act, or the attempts by govt to institute such things as TIA or Einstein Big Brother snooping the private affairs of citizens.
But here you are calling me fascist simply because I don't support the communist and socialist and radical leftist agendas of OWS.
Also I have stated I support free enterprise and small business. Where is that in your definition of fascism? Simply, it is that you and others like you interpret anything Capitalist as the enemy, and therefore you must cast the aspersion of fascist.
Also, I do not support the Gates of the world, not because they are Capitalists, but because they abuse Capitalism. There is a difference. Gates uses his money in depopulation. Gates is a member of the Club of Rome, which pretty much runs the agenda of the UN Agenda 21.
Soros has a corporation in his Fund Management, and yet you are boxing my ears for not supporting Soros. How can you live with your own hypocrisy?

Also, I believe you misunderstand the supposed corporatism of fascism. You are inferring that corporations dictated to Hitler? I thought he was the dictator of all Germany? Now you are telling me that the corporations controlled him, and that all of Hitler's evil was merely the result of corporations? But again, why don't I hear you complaining that corporations controlled Lenin? And why don't I hear you complaining that Soros controls Obama? And yet Soros is one of those Wall Streeters.

OWS can not be stopped by fear, as those who are illuminate don't have any fear(literally, if you experience fear you are not illuminated), and there are a good number of illuminated people in the OWS movement, as in the media and the entertainment industry. You just have open your eyes. There is nothing to fear. The world is not out to get you.

Especially with the police officer shooting that tear gas canister at the marine in the head, I am sure our troops will support the people before they comply with the corrupt government and enforce martial law.

Love will win. I don't care what you believe in spiritually, the growing faith in love itself is a power which can not be defeated. This is what those controlled by money alone do not understand.

reply to post by christina-66


When did I ever say I was for sweat shops? That is what you are implying here isn't it? You sound like a Marxist railing against the evil capitalist. This is such a typical rant. Starbucks hates sweat shops because they do not have social responsibility, but they support La Raza which promotes illegal aliens busting into the country and taking jobs the legal citizens of America would otherwise have.
Your hypocrisy is just too much.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by christina-66

 

When did I ever say I was for sweat shops?

When you voice your opposition to people who want to stop the practice, and continue vocal support for those who engage in the practice.

Are you for or against sweatshop labor, ThirdEye? Should companies that indulge in sweatshop labor face penalties or not? Do the women and girls - and yeah, it's pretty much all female - working these places deserve a living wage and fair treatment, or not?

THese aren't "iffy" questions. They're plain and simple, yes-or-no issues.

reply to post by izero

it was the 'anti corporate communist agitators' part...lol.

Maybe you should take that up with Adbusters, you know the organizers of the Occupy protest? The ones with communist Estonians in Canada? The ones who hate corporations and all corporate logos? Too bad they don't hate the communist fist logo and the Obama logo as well. Just Nike and BOA I guess.

They hate "We treat you right" but they don't hate "Yes we can, can , yes we can can". And they also don't hate the slogan "people not profit" which is taken right off the CPUSA website.

reply to post by jameshawkings


those who watch the music channels as an individual are still controlled by the elite. Enough said - Dont ask for proof, the only thing you need to do is open your eyes

Peace

LOL, this is ridiculous.

People start waking up en masse and protesting the banksters and their lackeys. Fighting what we stand against.

Now all of a sudden people on ATS come out and say - DON'T PROTEST! GO BACK TO SLEEP! IT'S AN ESTABLISHMENT TRAP! Whatever you do, don't protest, because if you do you're an EVIL SOCIALIST OUT TO CAUSE MARTIAL LAW AND BACKSTABBING AMERICA!

Give me a damn break, these people are finally out there, DOING SOMETHING.

To quote a classic song:

You tell me that I make no difference
Well at least I'm #ing trying
What the # have you done?

When the people actually get out there expressing their rage all you do is come out and betray them, what you're doing equates to defending Wall Street, telling people not to protest and just go with the system.

IT'S OK GUYS, JUST GO WITH THE SYSTEM AND DON'T COMPLAIN!

Give me a damn break.

I mean, the argument itself is absurd. "If you protest you're helping the elite" "if you protest you're controlled by the elite"

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by christina-66

 

When did I ever say I was for sweat shops?

When you voice your opposition to people who want to stop the practice, and continue vocal support for those who engage in the practice.

Are you for or against sweatshop labor, ThirdEye? Should companies that indulge in sweatshop labor face penalties or not? Do the women and girls - and yeah, it's pretty much all female - working these places deserve a living wage and fair treatment, or not?

THese aren't "iffy" questions. They're plain and simple, yes-or-no issues.

edit on 31/10/2011 by TheWalkingFox because: (no reason given)

Again, I never said I was for "sweat shops". But then, not all corporations are sweat shops in Indonesia are they? It's a typical Marxist rant against Capitalism, lumping all corporations into the same category. And yet, here you sit typing on your computer made by a corporation, and likely not in the USA either. Or at least some parts.
Liberals have run corporations out of the USA and now you are complaining that they operate in parts of the world which do not have the same regulations on industry.
Who is going to make your computers for you, who is going to make your toothbrush, your hybrid car, your Seventh Generation dishsoap? This is like PETA throwing red paint on people wearing fur coats while they walk around in leather shoes.
The whole anti corporate thing is getting ridiculous.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Again, I never said I was for "sweat shops". But then, not all corporations are sweat shops in Indonesia are they? It's a typical Marxist rant against Capitalism, lumping all corporations into the same category. And yet, here you sit typing on your computer made by a corporation, and likely not in the USA either. Or at least some parts.

Are you for or against sweatshop labor, ThirdEye? Should companies that indulge in sweatshop labor face penalties or not? Do the women and girls working these places deserve a living wage and fair treatment, or not?

Yes or no?

reply to post by CREAM


yeah however it is the people like you that need to know that love can be defeated, through evil, hate and all other negative emotions and feelings.

Dont cast your head one direction oblivious to the other.

This is our battle and our witness to our hearts, do not think that this will be easy, you will be trampled on before you can take a breath.

Help each other and we will triumph together not as an illuminated fearless freak - we are human - built for a purpose far beyond this earth's current way of life and society.

Do you think man was created with paper on a table and a pen in his hand ---- helllllllllll noooooooo - if you think otherwise, then i say you are a fool and need to

A) grow up and pay witness to your surroundings,
b) think long and hard about the meaning of life, which is being stripped away from you with each and every form of mainstream media, again i repeat EACH AND EVERY FORM of MAINSTREAM MEDIA

Conspiracy website my ass - this is a truth website.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus



You what? Corporatism is the main definer of fascism . For a moment imagine left and right do not sit at the opposite ends of a straight line – imagine a circle. The result of extreme left and extreme right amount to the same thing, as you say, totalitarianism. Given the recent news that the majority of the world’s holdings are in the hands of just 177 corporations – that is indeed the very direction we’re heading in...on a global scale. The corporation has no long term interests – it cares only for short term gain – and will manipulate duly elected officials to ensure they can achieve that aim.

In what way does describing a person as fascist imply they are a supporter of the police state – that is the very miscomprehension that has allowed the current fascistic system to come into being. ‘We don’t have a police state therefore we are not fascist.’ That’s a falsehood. Fascism has nothing at all to do with support or non-support of the police.

I did not call you a fascist because you do not support communist or socialist agendas – I called you a fascist because you stated that those who were against corporatism were communists. That’s rather extreme don’t you think?

The capitalism we have been living with is a fraud encouraged and supported only by the slackening of credit restrictions (evidenced by its current state). A good business model should be able to fund its own expansion with minimum borrowing....a household should be able to survive week to week without resorting to a credit card or releasing the equity on their home. You at least note that capitalism has been abused – on that at least we can agree.

How in heaven’s name have I ‘boxed your ears’ about not supporting Soros – as I previously stated it was your reference to ‘anti corporate communist agitators’ that I was ‘boxing your ears’ for.

What’s fascism got to do with Hitler?

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Again, I never said I was for "sweat shops". But then, not all corporations are sweat shops in Indonesia are they? It's a typical Marxist rant against Capitalism, lumping all corporations into the same category. And yet, here you sit typing on your computer made by a corporation, and likely not in the USA either. Or at least some parts.

Are you for or against sweatshop labor, ThirdEye? Should companies that indulge in sweatshop labor face penalties or not? Do the women and girls working these places deserve a living wage and fair treatment, or not?

Yes or no?

OWS is against corporate greed in Wall Street I thought? Now it's sweat shops. Are you policing what is happening in Indonesia?
Are you for or against some corporation making the computer you are using for your anti-corporate rant?
Again, not all corporations are sweat shops in Indonesia. Adbusters seems to be against all corporations, but they sure take money from the very corporate Soros.
Don't even talk to me about corporations and Wall Street without addressing the Soros connection.
Perhaps you want us all to live in the Stone age? You are free to do that, but stop screaming and yelling about corporations when every day you use products made by them.