WARNING: OWS is a Trap!! Get off the Streets Immediately

OP to the left

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

There is no freedom coming out of the Egypt and Libyan uprisings. If those who support them and the OWS were for real freedom and democracy, they would have supported the true freedom fighters in Iran who were against the dictatorship if Ahmedinajad, and by the way Sunni muslim do not support him either.

Lets just say the shiite muslims are the catholics of christianity and the sunni muslims are the protestants.

BIG DIFFERENCE! I expect nothing sinister being started by them unless Israel forces their hand. The israeli government needs to settle down and if ww3 happens it will be their fault alone. Everyone else should stay out of it.

I don't hate jews but they need to get over their superiority complex. They could have forged a secular state but they keep playing the victim card for more land and using hamas as the excuse. Pathetic!!

NorEaster,

When I first entered the realms of conspiracy, I was quick to write a few of the theories off without first investigating. One day I realised I had to at least look at the evidence, I felt a bit silly for even doing that at the time, but after viewing the empirical data, it completely destroyed my old belief system

Originally posted by NorEaster
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A post search on you is quite a revelation. That's all I have to add to this. Not really sure what your slant is on any of this NWO thing, except to note that for you, it seems to come from everywhere all at once, seems to control the weather and major geological events, and it seems to be at war with itself.

I don't know. Taking over the industrialized world could be accomplished a lot easier by simply lulling the whole of it all into a comfortable vulnerability. Certainly not by jazzing it all up with everything from infrastructure obliterating Earthquakes to global-wide protest movements. That sort of thing tends to set societies on a visceral level of alert, which is counterproductive if your goal is to slowly and successfully take charge.

I don't know. Maybe I'm an evil genius and would be a hell of a lot better at this NWO business than the idiots that you believe to be running this project? If you already have people in the streets, and 80% solidly in favor of what they're trying to achieve, then establishing martial law is the last thing you want to do. That's what brings down centralized power - at least if history is any guide.

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

First i believe that OWS is a legitimate protest movement.. how would crippling the central banking system be in favour of the elite?

How is it a "legitimate protest"? How does OWS expect to "cripple the central banking system" by standing there and yelling at buildings on Wall Street and beating drums at them?

If I want to sabotage a machine, I will toss a wooden shoe in between the cogs of it. If I just stand and yell at it, I expect to be thoroughly ignored by the machine. I don't yell at my alarm clock to turn it off, either - I smack the crap out of it!

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Originally posted by christina-66
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Aaaah - so you're a fascist - that explains everything.

I concur just have a look at his comments in the other OWS threads, his MO is quite obvious

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
OP to the left

Maybe you're right, I hope you are, but we will be finding out shortly. I had to get the message to as many people so as they would be able to make sense of events should they occur

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I assure you i am not funded by anyone , directed by anyone I act on my own free will. I can only speak for myself but nobody in the OWS movement so far has given me that "feeling" . It is a common agreement not just here but abroad, around the world. This did not start on American soil, this is the adopting of a world wide protest that has been occurring in other countries over the past several months. It has a name OWS but it goe beyond Wall Street, WS was just a starting point. Forget sorros and acorn, the ends do not justify the means if they are expecting this to be beneficial for themselves.

People stop being so damn paranoid, follow your heart , if we come together in a mutual hatred for the elite then nothing can stop us. Stop living is fear...

FEAR IS THE MIND KILLER

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
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I assure you i am not funded by anyone , directed by anyone I act on my own free will. I can only speak for myself but nobody in the OWS movement so far has given me that "feeling" . It is a common agreement not just here but abroad, around the world. This did not start on American soil, this is the adopting of a world wide protest that has been occurring in other countries over the past several months. It has a name OWS but it goe beyond Wall Street, WS was just a starting point. Forget sorros and acorn, the ends do not justify the means if they are expecting this to be beneficial for themselves.

People stop being so damn paranoid, follow your heart , if we come together in a mutual hatred for the elite then nothing can stop us. Stop living is fear...

FEAR IS THE MIND KILLER

edit on 30-10-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)

With the OWS movement you would only need to have a small group of people right at the top controlling the whole movement, while everyone else is blissfully unaware that they are being played as pawns in a Chess Match

This is not about fear, it's about strategy. If you're a chess player yourself, you will know that sometimes when you have found a way of taking a piece from your opponent, eventually you realise that they were feeding it to you. You thought you were one step ahead of them, but in reality they were three steps ahead of you.

I always ask myself "Who Benefits?". If there is Anarchy on the Internet and on the Streets; it will not benefit the people.

Originally posted by jameshawkings
Get them off the streets now before it all turns nasty. Martial Law is required before WWIII is started, this is to prevent people protesting and trying to bring a halt to the war. The Bankers/Elite need us to call for Martial Law, they don't want to say "Well it's WWIII so we need to bring in Marial Law.

OWS is being led by the Secret Services, Agent Provocateur's will soon deliberately make things turn nasty with violence and death. There will be chaos on the Internet when CIA Hacking Group Anonymous take down Facebook on 5th of November. It's also Bank Transfer Day on the 5th of November i.e withdraw your money from the banks at the same time. The Bankers/Elite are creating a false flag crash of the system, which they will blame on the protestors . They will make it seem like we have called for Martial Law. Once Martial Law is in place, the stage is set for World War III to commence

Sorry OWS, get off the streets now before it's too late, it's a trap and you're in the middle of it!

Those who watch the Music channels will have noticed the incredible number of recent music videos featuring chaos and anarchy on the streets. We all know that MTV and Co are used as a way to target and condition teens and young adults, why are they putting these ideas of violence and chaos into their heads? Do not trust the Pied Piper

edit on 29-10-2011 by jameshawkings because: (no reason given)

Two things - on November 6th, when this doesn't happen, will you be the first "oracle" in the history of all things Conspiracy Theory to come back and admit that you made the entire thing up? Or will you simply fall into the mist like all who have come before you?

Two: How do we know that YOU aren't one of these "Provocateurs" trying to get us to empty the banks nation wide to usher in violence and destruction?


And ya know what? Three: It's pathetic and seriously sad that so many of you "skeptics" out there star and flag posts like this without one single shred of any credibility or plausibility.

You're all simply the other end of the big dumb equation.

Originally posted by PrimePorkchop

Originally posted by jameshawkings
Get them off the streets now before it all turns nasty. Martial Law is required before WWIII is started, this is to prevent people protesting and trying to bring a halt to the war. The Bankers/Elite need us to call for Martial Law, they don't want to say "Well it's WWIII so we need to bring in Marial Law.

OWS is being led by the Secret Services, Agent Provocateur's will soon deliberately make things turn nasty with violence and death. There will be chaos on the Internet when CIA Hacking Group Anonymous take down Facebook on 5th of November. It's also Bank Transfer Day on the 5th of November i.e withdraw your money from the banks at the same time. The Bankers/Elite are creating a false flag crash of the system, which they will blame on the protestors . They will make it seem like we have called for Martial Law. Once Martial Law is in place, the stage is set for World War III to commence

Sorry OWS, get off the streets now before it's too late, it's a trap and you're in the middle of it!

Those who watch the Music channels will have noticed the incredible number of recent music videos featuring chaos and anarchy on the streets. We all know that MTV and Co are used as a way to target and condition teens and young adults, why are they putting these ideas of violence and chaos into their heads? Do not trust the Pied Piper

edit on 29-10-2011 by jameshawkings because: (no reason given)

Two things - on November 6th, when this doesn't happen, will you be the first "oracle" in the history of all things Conspiracy Theory to come back and admit that you made the entire thing up? Or will you simply fall into the mist like all who have come before you?

Two: How do we know that YOU aren't one of these "Provocateurs" trying to get us to empty the banks nation wide to usher in violence and destruction?


And ya know what? Three: It's pathetic and seriously sad that so many of you "skeptics" out there star and flag posts like this without one single shred of any credibility or plausibility.

You're all simply the other end of the big dumb equation.

edit on 30-10-2011 by PrimePorkchop because: (no reason given)

It's about looking into what strategies are being used against us, looking at the evidence. If it doesn't happen I'll be very pleased indeed, but it could still happen after November 6th. I've had November marked down as a dangerous month since early on this year (for a large number of reasons).

The post is based Logic, but it is only the more experienced well-researched members here who will have enough data to understand and make the same calculations. Other people will either have to take my word for it, just keep it in mind or write it off completely.

Originally posted by jameshawkings

With the OWS movement you would only need to have a small group of people right at the top controlling the whole movement, while everyone else is blissfully unaware that they are being played as pawns in a Chess Match

This is not about fear, it's about strategy. If you're a chess player yourself, you will know that sometimes when you have found a way of taking a piece from your opponent, eventually you realise that they were feeding it to you. You thought you were one step ahead of them, but in reality they were three steps ahead of you.

I always ask myself "Who Benefits?". If there is Anarchy on the Internet and on the Streets; it will not benefit the people.

So the solution is what? Keep taking it up the arse till the PTB feel sorry for us and stop?? I am not stating you are entirely wrong but sometimes you have to take chances in life to get ahead. I mean we are dammed if we do and dammed if we don't.

And I don't support anarchy. The whole idea is to raise awareness of the problems for those too lazy and ignorant to take notice otherwise. Sometimes I wish hollywood and sports did not exist, despite the fact I like the second.

Originally posted by neo96
Yes history always does repeat itself since it isn't taught anymore.

Did someone promise Iraq or Afpak veterans some kind of bonus?

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by jameshawkings

With the OWS movement you would only need to have a small group of people right at the top controlling the whole movement, while everyone else is blissfully unaware that they are being played as pawns in a Chess Match

This is not about fear, it's about strategy. If you're a chess player yourself, you will know that sometimes when you have found a way of taking a piece from your opponent, eventually you realise that they were feeding it to you. You thought you were one step ahead of them, but in reality they were three steps ahead of you.

I always ask myself "Who Benefits?". If there is Anarchy on the Internet and on the Streets; it will not benefit the people.

So the solution is what? Keep taking it up the arse till the PTB feel sorry for us and stop?? I am not stating you are entirely wrong but sometimes you have to take chances in life to get ahead. I mean we are dammed if we do and dammed if we don't.

Right now, we're losing badly, but things could be a lot worse, initially we need to focus on damage limitation and then get ourselves into a stronger position. If we lose the Internet in it's current form that's a big lose

Originally posted by greyhat

Originally posted by neo96
Yes history always does repeat itself since it isn't taught anymore.

Did someone promise Iraq or Afpak veterans some kind of bonus?

Thanks for that, very interesting indeed

Originally posted by Aestheteka
Only a few weeks ago, people on here rejected my suggestion that OWS was engineered for precisely this purpose.

And as for Martial Law, do you guys think that your government will actually announce 'Martial Law'? No, what they would do is slowly implement various facets of it - armed stop and searches for example (first on planes, then on the roads, etc). First, though, they'd want the names and faces of everyone they'd need to target...

I think you're exactly right. Another bit of supporting evidence for your statement (i.e. subtle implementation of Martial Law), would be the "VIPR" teams now in Tennessee, and potentially nationwide in the future--essentially TSA groping/naked-body-scanner mission creep, as the following links show:

TSA Releases VIPR Venom on Tennessee Highways

TSA wants to expand its VIPR teams to grope you wherever you go (ATS link)

People on the Left say that Tea Party are controlled by Koch Bros and corporations, but OWS supporters won't listen when the billionaire Soros involvement is exposed.

It wouldn't surprise me if that were true. It could be just a power struggle between one group and another. They will use the people as pawns and take power in the long run. The communists were famous for this, Stalin started killing his own revolutionaries almost immediately after taking power. So the Koch brothers are using the tea party to bring down the govt and then seize power, there is no reason to believe Soros couldn't co-opt another group to achieve the same ends. I get nervous when ANY group advocates rewriting the constitution to suit their agenda. Its the DNA of our civilization, you change it and we could end up in something very nasty. We have a good system of government, we just need laws to regulate the financial system, protect the environment, and stop abuse of workers and outsourcing.

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Facebook != the Internet.

Second, Anonymous has already stated that their majority never called for this "Take Down Facebook" day (it was likely announced by someone who didn't think it through/didn't think about how Facebook isn't holding a gun to people's heads saying "YOU MUST USE THIS"). Of course Facebook does things with people's information that many users don't realize. Welcome to 2011 and how many companies operate (unfortunately). There are many like-minded individuals who understand the privacy/likely repercussive problems related to the way in which members of our society "put themselves out there"/are being data-farmed without exercising due caution/understanding what they're giving up (as individuals and as a society), but they aren't interested in preventing you from seeing your pseudo-friend's (who you maybe used to visit, you know, in person) new dog pictures on Nov. 5th.

People need to be educated about the problems (so there is an increased demand for better solutions (for ex., Google+ has addressed many problems, which forced Facebook to offer similar features)), and change their way of thinking -- crashing Facebook for a day and simply irritating users isn't going to amount to much now is it.

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Okay, you didn't answer my initial question - on November 6th, if your prediction does not come true, will you be man (or woman) enough to come back here, create a new thread, and admit that you were wrong and basing your predictions on disingenuous information that, at best, you knew about, or at worst, created yourself?

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Thank heavens, at least someone out there gets it. Its sad when people on ATS who actually demand evidence, sources, credibility and proof for big claims are more and more becoming the minority. People here now just full on accept any conspiracy story/prediction from any random dude, who they know nothing about, with ZERO evidence or sources JUST because it fits in with their personal world view, or sounds exciting to them, or they want it to be true.

People here will tell you till they're blue in the face how everyone else in the world is a sheep for blindly believing a single thing mass media/govts/etc say, yet they're perfectly willing to believe random bloke number 89,890 on the internet who post a story with insane claims of conspiracy/doom/yadayada and of course never any evidence, expertise, credibility or proof. Talk about irony.

This community used to actually have at least some great investigation and what not, now it's just another joke where any random attention whore who makes up a doom and gloom story/prediction, with no evidence or credibility to back it up, can come and get their 15minutes in the spotlight and have tons of people eating right out of their hands. Sad really.

OP, see you on the 6th when nothing happens and you make an excuse or change the date or come up with some new bogus story or just disappear like the rest of the know-it-all bogus prophets here.

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