NKorean Prison Camp Survivor: Starving Women Cooked & Ate Their Own Children

Originally posted by DaMod
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

 

So the lives of Bosnian families saved mean nothing?

At the cost of NATO imperialist meddling in post-Soviet states? There's more to that conflict than just genocide and the Western saviours. What are your thoughts on the Americans using depleted uranium chemical weaponry during their "liberation" of Kosovo? Surely that affects the families still there who give birth to mutilated children, does it not?

I didn't hear anything about Canada quelling a genocide... In fact... I've never heard of Canada really doing anything...

Well, Canadians were fighting in Europe starting around 1938.

Nothing against Canadians but... it's currently (and has been for a while) policy for Canada to turn away refugees... and the ones that are given furlow are treated like swine...

Is it now?

I don't see the policy that you mention. In fact, I see traditional Canadians of anglo-saxon-franco origin becoming a minority along with everybody else here. Ever been to Vancouver before? Many fugees there. I've met them from both sides of conflict.

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


You're right.. You're absolutely right!

The events in Srebrenica in 1995 included the killing of more than 8,000 Bosnian Muslims as well as the mass expulsion of another 25,000–30,000 Bosnian Muslims, in and around the town of Srebrenica in Bosnia and Herzegovina, committed by units of the Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) under the command of General Ratko Mladić.[2][3]

The ethnic cleansing campaign that took place throughout areas controlled by the Bosnian Serb Army targeted Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats. The ethnic cleansing campaign included unlawful confinement, murder, rape, sexual assault, torture, beating, robbery and inhumane treatment of civilians; the targeting of political leaders, intellectuals and professionals; the unlawful deportation and transfer of civilians; the unlawful shelling of civilians; the unlawful appropriation and plunder of real and personal property; the destruction of homes and businesses; and the destruction of places of worship.

Source

They didn't need our help after all.. They had it handled all on their own...

Nothing to see there right? No Civil rights violations there eh?



And what of those refugees.. Just let them rot eh?

Now I can't say we did everything right.. I know we didn't.. but at least we did something about it...

And at least we gave sanctuary to Bosnian refugees unlike Canada with Jewish refugees during WW2.. oh yeah I went there!

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeTan
I question the mothers. If I were a parent I would rather die of starvation and loss of limbs to feed my children than eat them.

People think nurturing offspring is automatic. Its not.

Animal studies of animals not raised in social groups proves that.

There's also a tribe (I think in Africa) where food is so scarce - - children are turned out at 3 years old to fend for themselves.

That's crazy. I'd love to meet an adult who survived the African jungle solo from the age of 3...

Looking at that from a socio-cultural perspective, can you imagine what kind of people would be created from such a severe and punishing upbringing? It's so savage in nature, as to appear to be inhuman. Makes me wonder what kind of survival skills Human Being develops under such pressure, without any prior education or preparation.

I guess you don't know till you are in that situation.

But I have had my son for 14 weeks now and I can honestly say I would walk through fire whilst standing on broken glass for him.

Would I kill him to stop him suffering ? I don't know, I hope and pray I will never be placed in a situation that made me make that choice. I know I would die to save him, lay down me life is a small price to pay for his survival. Would i kill him to stop his suffering? That I just don't know, there is a part of me that thinks I would but I just don't know.

reply to post by Xcathdra


There's Goes Xcathdra and his pro western pro american stance ah you sure like bush dont you?

What pisses me off are stories like this. All those people who want Bush arrested for war crimes, for the destruction of the US and UK, hatred of the west, all those who claim the moral high ground, yet remain silent on issues like this. Sometimes, I think it should come down to this -

reply to post by DaMod

So the lives of Bosnian families saved mean nothing?

Excuse me? what about the lives of the bosnian serbs that the bosnian muslims have killed? oh i guess they dont count because they arent the true victims, mothers were raped by bosnian muslims in front of there childern, the bosnian muslims and there terrorists buddies have took innocent serb civilians to there forest base near sarajevo have them killed



Since they were serbs it didnt matter. and how smart your sources will be wikipedia or CNN for that matter

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


Fair enough generally speaking.. However I doubt every Bosnian Muslim was guilty of this even though it was them later who were the victims of an ethnic Cleansing campaign. However this event just like most other events resulted in bad people doing bad things on both sides..

I'm trying to basically say with all this that Canadians are no better, just different.. I guess all that was lost in translation a page or so ago.

Which to be honest we shouldn't be talking about anyway... This is a thread about North Koreans eating their young after all.

reply to post by DaMod

However I doubt every Bosnian Muslim was guilty of this even though it was them later who were the victims of an ethnic Cleansing campaign. However this event just like most other events resulted in bad people doing bad things on both sides..

There you go again blame the serbs for starting the war, just like bill clintion and witch hillary clintion

However I doubt every Bosnian Muslim was guilty of this even though

Oh yes they are guilty as the sins of our fathers.


I have spoken to my family freinds here in toronto and elsewhere, and those that are from bosnia, you have no idea what kind of sick Bosnia war was, it was brother on brother sister on sister, as i far can remember there were no serbian forces in or around sarajevo at the time of the attack on the market square.

It was qutie typical for CNN to be one sided during the war, there are now footages of the bosnian terrorists on a bosnian mountain, even one clip showing an UN Armoured Personnel Carrier transporting the terrorists.

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


What im saying is if you are against the death of innocent people, then you are against the death of innocent people. You dont pick and choose based on your personal opinion on which leaders hould be charged with a crime.

And you can knock the pro west crap off.. You are almost as bad as a few other members who have anti west view points who would rather call people names in an effort to distract from the fact your argument is without merit.

Do you have anything on the topic?

Care to take up the argument as to why Bush should be held accountible but not the North Korean Leader? Please, dazle us all with your knowledge on this topic and question.

Originally posted by DaMod
They didn't need our help after all.. They had it handled all on their own...

Nothing to see there right? No Civil rights violations there eh?

And what of those refugees.. Just let them rot eh?

Now I can't say we did everything right.. I know we didn't.. but at least we did something about it...

And at least we gave sanctuary to Bosnian refugees unlike Canada with Jewish refugees during WW2.. oh yeah I went there!

You really want to do this? Because I'm currently reading a book based on facts unpopular in the West that puts your propaganda facts through a wood chipper.

According to actual facts, all sides of that civil war lost upwards of 100,000 people. The US saw a chance for divide and conquer strategy, picked the dominant side of the conflict to demonize (the Serbs), and then completely fabricated news and exaggerated casuality estimates of the "victims".

Right before NATO started bombing the region in their second civil war, the British PM even mentioned that the Kosovo Albanians killed more people than the Serbs (2:1 ratio, to be more precise).

In fact, the genocide estimates against the Serbs, produced by Western sources and the rebels, were mostly missing persons estimates. These sources claimed hundreds of thousands, while in the end only about 2100 were actually found to be missing. The Serb commanders admitted to killing boys/men of military age in Srebenica; they also bussed out women and children at the same time to avoid massacreing them.

I recommend that you just read the book, and maybe you'll educate yourself on reality and not propaganda. It's called "The Politics of Genocide", authored by Edward Herman/David Peterson/Noam Chomsky. This book is so impressively grim that I managed to read half of it in one sitting. Oh, and the book also describes the reality behind many other modern genocides that just so happen to be supported by the US, or outright carried out by them (like 500,000 children who died in Iraq from lack of drinkable water because the US purposefully bombed water treatment centres and then imposed sanctions on Iraq forbidding them from securing the materials to rebuild them. This is the pestilence in practice). Xcathdra, I recommend this book to you too.