New Yorkers rage over ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protestors

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There are no guarantees in "investment"...by definition...it is gambling.

You just want all the benefits and no risk huh?

Your previous illogical rant is why I, along with many others, can't support OWS even though we support their underlying intent.

Once it gets hijacked by intellignet organizers (and it will)...then maybe I'll associate myself with it...but until then...I won't associate with people who think taking dumps on the sidewalk is a good idea.

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Just be glad they aren't burning down the houses yet... just poopin on them

Yeah, statements like that is really helping your cause.


And you wonder why people are starting to turn on OWS.

Originally posted by dc4lifeskater

Originally posted by SM2
reply to post by ChemistryAdept

 

and why should a business owner, lets say a restaurant owner, feel compelled to spend the extra money on cleaning supplies and such for his restrooms to allow a bunch of non customers use his facilities, when this protest is almost assuredly all ready impacting his business by the loss of customers due to the protests? it is private property and he has the right to refuse anyone service, and refuse anyone entry to his property. I am sure, that if a protester was his/her costumer, they would be free to use the restrooms.

Because we are human beings (that use to mean something) and we are americans (that use to mean something to) and actually most of the business's surrounding OWS that are locally owned are doing pretty well thanks to the protesters being there.. One pizza place is making upwards of 250 pizzas per day for the protesters that are being paid for by donations from all around the US...

The problem is there aren't that many places, there are to many people so there are not enough bathrooms to go around... So like I said if the CITY would ALLOW the protesters to setup proper toilets to use maybe they wouldn't have to go to the bathroom outside which I am sure none of them are happy about doing because not to many people enjoy going to the bathroom outdoors in front of a bunch of people...

Just be glad they aren't burning down the houses yet... just poopin on them

Also in case you didn't know small locally owned business's pay more taxes and get less tax breaks then huge companies that make billions in profits and pay virtually no taxes... Imagine that, sounds fair right?

See I agree with most of what you said there.I think being a human being or an an American does mean something, to me at least, but that doesnt mean people should be able to run roughshod on others. I didnt say that business owners should not allow it, I said they should not be compelled to. there is a difference there. What reason did the city give for not allowing them to place toilets there? To your burning down houses comment, yeah, thats a good way to get support, actually its a good way to get shot by the home owner or their neighbors. Oh wait, it's in NYC mainly, strange how they never do these things in areas where there could be repercussions to their actions isnt it.

Its ridiculous to think that protesting doesnt come with some cost. That cost is being inflicted on those who actually LIVE where the protesters are protesting. I still wonder what a few thousand protesters plan to accomplish,when MILLIONS of Americans are sitting idle,NOT protesting, during OWS.Obviously,many arnt buying into the program,the MANTRA of this voice.

www.nypost.com...

Fed up homeowners said that they've been subjected to insults and harassment as they trek to their jobs each morning. "The protesters taunt people who are on their way to work," said James Fernandez, 51, whose apartment overlooks the park.

James Fernandez, 51? James D. Fernández who lives on Liberty drive over looking the park. Seems this guy likes the prtest idea until it was on hs door step. Here is his article "We Are All Spainards: ‘Hostages of Hostages’ No More." Seems he really liked the occupy movement and thought every body should do it. What happened James D. Fernández. Did the corruption only look bad some where else? Did the protest only look good some where else?

www.indypendent.org...

Many Spaniards today feel that their country — much like the United States — has settled into a stagnant and corrupt political system. They believe that the two major parties are virtually indistinguishable on the issues that affect people’s lives the most, because both are ruled by the “tyranny of common sense.” “Keep the banks, big business and the credit rating agencies happy, by imposing austerity on, and demanding efficiency from, your citizens. Let your citizens vote every once in a while —we are, after all, a democracy— and make sure that they keep consuming. When elections come around, each party should trot out the trusted, old wedge issues, which camouflage the profound similarities between the two parties and focus the attention on largely superficial or symbolic differences. The two political parties must bring out their bases on election day, even if voters have to hold their noses in disgust when they vote. Each party must scare voters into believing that the stench of the other guy is even worse than ours.”

A new common sense seems to be emerging in the wake of May 15. Many Spaniards have finally decided to say out loud, in public squares, and virtual spaces that didn’t exist 10 years ago, that you are not alone or disloyal if you think that the choices stink, if it looks to you like the emperor has no clothes, if you feel that the demos has been dropped from democracy. The protesters in Spain are wondering aloud why their access to their leaders is limited to casting a ballot once every four years, while banks, business leaders and credit rating agencies seem to have unlimited access.

The protesters are asking the basic questions supposedly left behind in these commonsensical, post-historical, post-ideological times. They are refusing to take the bait of the parties’ wedge issues. They are claiming that the two main parties have been taking them for granted, and they are saying to all of this: “basta ya.” Enough is enough.

But the complaint is posted in the New York Post. And they also had another complaint that I found odd.

www.nypost.com...

“Stealing is our biggest problem at the moment,” said Nan Terrie, 18, a kitchen and legal-team volunteer from Fort Lauderdale.

“I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”

Nan Terrie, 18? Ruoh-Nan (Terry) Yan, Ph.D.

www.dm.cahs.colostate.edu...

She is a professor who specializes in how large corporations or groups are underminded through complaints. How complaints that are not corrected will bring down the biggest of corporations. She even wrote a book about it.

Yan, R. N., & Lotz, S. (2009). Taxonomy of the influence of other customers in consumer complaint behavior: A social-psychological perspective. Journal of Consumer Satisfaction, Dissatisfaction and Complaining Behavior, 22, 107-126.

So who better to attack OWS then the professor "Ruoh-Nan (Terry) Yan" who wrote the book on how to crash it? And then you have the other proffesor " James D. Fernández" who promotes the protest in other countries but just not on his own door step? I say the New York Post is running propaganda against OWS.

Originally posted by jjjtir
October 17, 2011 - New Yorkers Back Wall St. Protesters 3 - 1, Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; Stay As Long As You Want, Even Republicans Say

www.quinnipiac.edu/x1302.xml?ReleaseID=1662

By a 67 - 23 percent margin, New York City voters agree with the views of the Wall Street protesters and say 87 - 10 percent that it is "okay that they are protesting," according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

Agreeing with the protesters views are Democrats 81 - 11 percent and independent voters 58 - 30 percent, while Republicans disagree 58 - 35 percent, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Even Republicans, however, agree 73 - 23 percent with the protesters right to be there.

New York City voters say 72 - 24 percent, including 52 - 41 percent among Republicans, that if the protesters obey the law, they can stay as long as they wish.

A total of 72 percent of voters say they understand the protesters' views "very well" or "fairly well," with 17 percent who say "not too well" and 10 percent who say "not well at all."

Voters split 46 - 45 percent in their approval of the way police are handling the Wall Street protest, but approve 61 - 33 percent of how the police are doing their job overall.

(...)

As expected, this post was completely ignored. Also as expected where is the proof that the protesters are pooping on peoples doorsteps and shouting at people going to work? No one even asked if this is true.

Here's some truth, OWS NYC has asked the police commisioner and the mayor many times for alternatives, permits have been applied for, requests have been made for toilets rented by the movement, they have the donation money to do it with. They will not be accomadated. Why? Because the government and the corporations and the banks want to make it as difficult as possible to excercise their rights.

Never give the government justification to take away your 1st Amendment Rights. Disagree with the motivations all you like but tread carefully.

Where's the OP at?

4 pages and he's only replied 3 times in only the first page. That should tell you what you are dealing with.

......A troll with an agenda.

Can anybody show me evidence of people actually "raging" over OWS? ....NO? ....Ok!

They are 99% annoying filthy freeloaders, that makeup is fully believable.

Great story OP

OWS...Occupying Wastes of Skin

wow, what a conundrum ... i guess personal responsibility evades all senses when rage ensues.
business owners, homeowners, complainers all generally have a hose ... you can use it.

whiners on the streets, whiners at the meeting, whiners everywhere ... when will ppl do what is right instead of whine about it ?
stand up for yourselves and quit asking the govt to fix it.

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I thought the protestors were protesting against the 1%? Surely you aren't suggesting that trillionaires are slogging off to work each and every morning by foot are you? These aren't the 1% and you know it. Turns out you all are just pissed at anyone that has anything better than you.

Assuming this is true, I see an easy fix to the bathroom problem

The city just has to stop refusing to allow the OWS movement the permit to rent and bring in toilets, with their own money. Or the city could show that they care about the peoples complains and start providing the toilets in order to stop this problem...

But the thing is the city is not allowing toilets to be brought in. People go to the bathroom and this does not stop just because there are no toilets available. If you want to blame some one, blame the city for not allowing toilets to be brought in.

As for the drumming, I can understand that complaint. Where I live there is a 10 PM noise curfew. If you are making noise that disturbs the peace after 10 PM you get a ticket. Those who are drumming, need to be respectful and stop drumming at a reasonable hour. If not maybe start handing out tickets.

As for yelling at passer bys, all I can say is, IT'S A FREAKING PROTEST! they will shout and chant at passer by's. That is going to happen.

There, that is all I have to say. Feel free to attack me or revere me all you want.

Originally posted by marzabeth
reply to post by marg6043

 

I thought the protestors were protesting against the 1%? Surely you aren't suggesting that trillionaires are slogging off to work each and every morning by foot are you? These aren't the 1% and you know it. Turns out you all are just pissed at anyone that has anything better than you.

Have you ever been to a protest? I don't think you have. People talk to, yell at and chant towards people passing by.... This happens... in every freaking protest.

Not just this one.... Nice try though

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
They are 99% annoying filthy freeloaders, that makeup is fully believable.

Great story OP

OWS...Occupying Wastes of Skin

So the people with jobs who are protesting? The verizon workers, the unions, the lawyers on and on... They are just filthy free loaders?

Please, you clearly are clueless as to the kind of people there. There are people from all over the world. All different, races, religions genders, sexual orientations, political affiliations and more....

All of whom, pee and poop. Whether there are toilets available or not. The city is making it impossible for toilets to be brought in by anyone. OWS has tried to get permits in order to bring toilets in with their own money.. Yet this keeps not being allowed.

Seems odd... If they are so concerned about where they are going to the bathroom.

Blame the city.

Off I go to find a thread about Harold Campings bogus prediction.

I see a few people blaming the city and saying they should either allow or provide bathrooms for the protestors.


Now...who wants to volunteer to have a permanent tent city built outside their house???

Yeah...doesn't sound so great does it. It's easy to suggest when you won't be affected by it.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Assuming this is true, I see an easy fix to the bathroom problem

The city just has to stop refusing to allow the OWS movement the permit to rent and bring in toilets, with their own money. Or the city could show that they care about the peoples complains and start providing the toilets in order to stop this problem...

But the thing is the city is not allowing toilets to be brought in. People go to the bathroom and this does not stop just because there are no toilets available. If you want to blame some one, blame the city for not allowing toilets to be brought in.

As for the drumming, I can understand that complaint. Where I live there is a 10 PM noise curfew. If you are making noise that disturbs the peace after 10 PM you get a ticket. Those who are drumming, need to be respectful and stop drumming at a reasonable hour. If not maybe start handing out tickets.

As for yelling at passer bys, all I can say is, IT'S A FREAKING PROTEST! they will shout and chant at passer by's. That is going to happen.

There, that is all I have to say. Feel free to attack me or revere me all you want.

really ??? it's the city's fault because certain scum refuse to show any respect or decency?
suppose it's the city's fault when a dog walker refuses to pickup after it defecates too, right?
i suppose it'd be too much to ask for these "protesters" to use a bag or a bucket then properly discard it?

yeah, didn't think so ... it's some ELSE's fault they have no couth ... gotcha.
as for the passersby ... do like we did at the abortion clinic protests, carry a small spray bottle and use it.

Originally posted by blupblup
The OP of this thread has been on many OWS threads and has an agenda.... they are against the movement and along with others on the site, are trying every tactic to rubbish and discredit the movement.


Just ignore them.

You got me. Just sharing the information that you won't hear on the evening news.

My agreement with this movement stops at End or overhaul the Fed. That's it.. I can't relate to a movement without a meaning. I can't relate to the anarchists, the socialists , the communists or the Nazi's that have backed this movement. I can't agree with the co-opting of the movement by the real authority (Big Labor)

I won't agree that these people should be allowed to infringe on the rights of NYC residents and workers who are just trying to live their lives. The defecating and urinating, the crime sprees, vandalism, verbal assaults and the rapes... Nope can't agree with that either Sorry Go poop on Barney Frank's doorstep or Alan Greenspans..

BTW I don't agree with you either. That's my right!! Don't like don't read it.

Hey I have an idea. Why don't you tell me where you live so I can drop by and poop on your doorstep... I just had Taco Bell for Lunch.

Take it to the national mall...

NEWSFLASH! Bloomberg is finally manning up. I think

Mayor Bloomberg said Friday that he's going to start turning the screws on the Occupy Wall Streeters.

The city is planning to take a harder line on demonstrators camping out in Zuccotti Park - and insist on permits every time they want to march through Lower Manhattan, he said.

"We will start enforcing that more," Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show.

Chaos just Like Alinsky called for. Even Bloomberg see's it that way. I see it as pathetic!

Part of the difficulty for the city is that OWS is made of a number of different groups and nobody speaks for them all.

"It's a little bit complicated by there's nobody to work it out with," he said. "There just is not any one group, one idealogy, one objective, one person to negotiate with."

Read more: www.nydailynews.com...


Boo Hoo

Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand
Where's the OP at?

4 pages and he's only replied 3 times in only the first page. That should tell you what you are dealing with.

......A troll with an agenda.

Can anybody show me evidence of people actually "raging" over OWS? ....NO? ....Ok!

Sorry, I had to work. Crazy work. Next time I'll be more punctual for you.

Troll?? Moi? You new here? I eat trolls for Breakfast and then poop them out on people's doorsteps.

Originally posted by jibeho

NEWSFLASH! Bloomberg is finally manning up. I think

Mayor Bloomberg said Friday that he's going to start turning the screws on the Occupy Wall Streeters.

The city is planning to take a harder line on demonstrators camping out in Zuccotti Park - and insist on permits every time they want to march through Lower Manhattan, he said.

"We will start enforcing that more," Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show.

Chaos just Like Alinsky called for. Even Bloomberg see's it that way. I see it as pathetic!

Part of the difficulty for the city is that OWS is made of a number of different groups and nobody speaks for them all.

"It's a little bit complicated by there's nobody to work it out with," he said. "There just is not any one group, one idealogy, one objective, one person to negotiate with."

Read more: www.nydailynews.com...


Boo Hoo

So, you're happy that protesters will have to get more permits? A permit for every march? Do you honestly think that if approved, that it will only apply to OWS protesters?!
WTF is wrong with you?
Why are you letting your hate make it ok for further restrictions on the 1st Amendment?
What about when it's your turn to protest or at least is an issue you support protest of?
Wake up!

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Sorry that the movement to stop corporations/bansters/politicians from makeing a neo-fuedalistic society upsets your day

Forgive us for infringing on your time as we protest. Go ahead and applaud them removing the rift raft protesting as our Constitution is shredded and not even given lip service any more.

We have nothing to protest I know.

Feel safe in your bubble.. until your job is outsourced overseas and your house is taken or the inflation outpaces your income and you find yourself in poverty, while these politicians, banksters and corporations enjoy record profits.

Have a great day

Ti's the beginning of the end.
It's probably time for a bath anyway.