99%? Who wants to be a part of the 100%?

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

Sorry bub, but I'm much smarter than that. But obviously the majority of people obediently lobbing stars at your avatar aren't.

I starred your post in an effort to redistribute credibility so you don't feel like a total loser.

It's my new brand of Socialism. You like it?

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edit on 11-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

I don't feel like a loser, but thanks. Perhaps people who were tricked by beezer's recognizable status on ATS and ample/automatic stars given to him will be tricked too by your stars given to me... which may drive an honest reading of my posts (which are more intelligent than his) rather than a skimming over. GOD FORBID, we question the system and redistribute awards when it fails!

reply to post by NoHierarchy


Yeah, but those countries don't have 330 million people nor are they comprised of 50 different economies with their own health needs, demographics and economic output...

But who needs those details right?

reply to post by NoHierarchy


You don't award failure in the real world..

You learn from it and move on.

And you certainly don't try other failures on for size and defend them when you feel like a particular failure has left you with no wisdom to gain.

That's called stupidity.

Originally posted by Cinaed

reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

Sorry man... but I'm kind of embarrassed for this video. I was cringing the whole 2 minutes I could stand watching it. And the fact that they peppered in images of token African Americans in tea-party rallies to give an illusion of diversity... ugh, god... so transparent.

I sound like a d*ck, yeah... but this music sucks and as much as I can understand members of the tea party are upset, I cannot rally behind them, they just don't get it, and I've seen direct evidence of them being manipulated by lies/propaganda/hijacking.

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

Yeah, but those countries don't have 330 million people nor are they comprised of 50 different economies with their own health needs, demographics and economic output...

But who needs those details right?

Oh, WHOOPS! Guess that just invalidates the whole thing then!!

WRONG.

Can we mimic their countries completely? NO. STOP SETTING UP STRAW-MAN ARGUMENTS.

Can we adopt what they've done and apply it appropriately to our country at the federal and/or state level in a way that is different/better than what we currently have? Well... I'd be an idiot if I didn't say YES.

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

You don't award failure in the real world..

You learn from it and move on.

And you certainly don't try other failures on for size and defend them when you feel like a particular failure has left you with no wisdom to gain.

That's called stupidity.

I didn't fail. I repeatedly kicked your asses and received no stars for it. You received stars because you pat each other on the back, combine that with a couple little followers you probably have lurking around (compared to my... nobody around) then YOU have an unfair advantage. I'm simply looking at reality without fooling myself.

Stupidity is failing to question things deeper than your set of beliefs will allow... which is what you're obviously too afflicted with.

reply to post by NoHierarchy


From your perspective that may be true.

From my perspective those stars function just like the free market. And so does the flag system.

When people agree they star. When they don't, they don't agree. There's plenty of people agreeing with me. Just take a look at the posts I made on the first couple of pages.

I suppose it's all just right wingers then? Or all of these people are just being brainwashed because they don't buy into your defense of socialism and anarchism? To you everyone who doesn't agree with your world view is a moron, and therefore can't possibly have any credibility. To me, if i think you're wrong I'm going to point out why that is, and when people agree with me they are going to show it.

reply to post by NoHierarchy


Yeah the Constitution is a real downer!!!

Constitution, Constitution, Declaration, Constitution and just for fun

Bill of Rights

Not great troll food but sustaining non the less

I will even offer salt and pepper

reply to post by NoHierarchy


We realize this is your firmly held OPINION....

We realize you are a hero in your own mind....

stars and stripes and flags forever America

OMG its the Star Nazi's

No Star for YOU

OH wait!! I'm sorry, that nice soldier took pity on you and gave you one anyway....Thank him like a nice boy!

I find it interesting that the same people who lambaste me for being critical of socialism and communism within this "99%" movement, defend it, and call others names for rejecting it, and then refuse to own up to it.

It's also kinda funny that as they reject the notion that this movement is made up of a bunch of socialists and commies, most of the people who support this movement seem to have a love affair with socialism and communism.

reply to post by projectvxn


Along the same lines I have noticed that for a movement that is all about tolerance....they are really the most tolerant of all the groups in the country.....long as you agree with them

Have you ever seen a group harp on tolerance and equality like a wind up toy while being totally intolerant of any opposing view????

reply to post by Cinaed


What a lot of these people don't realize is that not so long ago I was a hardcore left winger. People like centurion1211 could attest to that. I even supported Barack Obama for the presidency in 08. But unlike my fellow left wing counter parts, I was never anti-capitalist, I was never anti-gun, anti-profit, or anti Wall St.

What changed in me? Watching the Liberal left I supported become a huge conglomeration of whiny entitlement peddling brats who threaten revolution, and call racism, and use mob tactics as a means to effect change in the system.

I got tired of it. You could say I GREW THE HELL UP.

reply to post by projectvxn


I was also very liberal when I was younger. I see it as growing up as well. I had a friend that chided me when I crossed over and said something that stuck with me as a truism

When you are young if you aren't a liberal, why you just don't have a heart. When you get older if you aren't conservative, well.....you just don't have a brain... Welcome to reality!

lol

reply to post by Cinaed


My wife, who was my girlfriend at the time, was involved with Code Pink and other hard left organizations. Today she is much like me. Tired of the left wing tactics. Tired of her Hispanic immigrant husband being called a racist for being a Tea Party member and not supporting illegals. Tired of her husband being called a murderer and a baby killer for choosing to protect this country...Simply tired of Obama's lies and the doublespeak(as our lefty friends like to put it) of the very minions who reject the moniker of Socialist or Communist and yet defend the failed systems, the murderous systems, at every turn.

Simply tired of the hypocrisy and the lies. Hiding from history and distorting it at every turn. Because if they ever figure out that it has and always will be the left that perpetuated racist policy in the US-from Jim Crow to the racist zoning policies of the PROGRESSIVE ERA that gave birth to the ghetto we know today, that took over Europe igniting WW2, with national socialism and communism fighting for the control of the proletariat, their heads would simply cave in.

And today they threaten to start a revolution of the so-called "99%" and we wonder where we fit into this revolution. Are we, their fellow Americans, the enemy? It seems so. Since they keep calling her, and myself lackeys of the "1%" simply for not agreeing with their far left wing ideology.

We, like I said on page one, are the 53% of Americans who work for a living, love this country, and wish to preserve the foundations it was built on. They are the "99%" who wish to fancy themselves the majority, and force their ideology on the rest of us by creating giant mobs of useless eaters, all to eat the fruits of the labor of the productive so that they don't have to feel the discomfort of their failure anymore.

It's pathetic.

reply to post by projectvxn


Thank you for your service.

A agree but I also know my generation is very guilty and on many levels responsible for what has happened, by not staying diligent citizens and watchdog'ing the government like we should have. This point bothers me more than you could know I think....

So I do what I can. I put my money where I think it will make a difference. I don't use banks. I vote every election national and local now... My guess is most right of center peeps do more small things like not shopping at Fallapartmart...which I don't lol. Buying American when possible. I always support my town's mom and pop businesses...

Spend too much time on ATS letting trolls lambaste me just so they get to hear about things they weren't told in school. I admit I do lose patience at times but over all, the more they attack me, the more I get to tell them about our real history.

I let them do what they will and keep standing firm...even if they remain total ###holes...if at some future time when something really odd/wrong happens...they will remember what the people here said to them....maybe it will make a difference

Hopefully most of the OWS will some day grow up too...we could certainly use their help!

sigh

I think it has more to do with opportunity then hard work. Who you know, what education is made availible to you or you can afford. These are the things that get people where they end up. Hard work is no garrentee of anything, as a ditch digger what their hard work earns them, most would say a basic living and a bad back.

Further more, most of the huge money makers on wall street do nothing but make trades on a computer. Their actions do little for society, in some cases hinder everyones progress. A trader can make more money betting on the downfall of a business, then actually helping fund a project that could create true growth.

It's not what you do, it's who you know.

Stupidity is failing to question things deeper than your set of beliefs will allow... which is what you're obviously too afflicted with.

that sure was the pot calling the kettle or what is better known as hypocrisy.

Originally posted by NoHierarchy

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

Yeah, but those countries don't have 330 million people nor are they comprised of 50 different economies with their own health needs, demographics and economic output...

But who needs those details right?

Oh, WHOOPS! Guess that just invalidates the whole thing then!!

WRONG.

Can we mimic their countries completely? NO. STOP SETTING UP STRAW-MAN ARGUMENTS.

Can we adopt what they've done and apply it appropriately to our country at the federal and/or state level in a way that is different/better than what we currently have? Well... I'd be an idiot if I didn't say YES.

edit on 11-10-2011 by NoHierarchy because: (no reason given)

Exactly, around here if you lay a fart, in diverts attention from the burning building, can lay farts
around the gang here, fire is natural anyways, they were probably lazy to begin with...

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by projectvxn

 

Thank you for your service.

A agree but I also know my generation is very guilty and on many levels responsible for what has happened, by not staying diligent citizens and watchdog'ing the government like we should have. This point bothers me more than you could know I think....

So I do what I can. I put my money where I think it will make a difference. I don't use banks. I vote every election national and local now... My guess is most right of center peeps do more small things like not shopping at Fallapartmart...which I don't lol. Buying American when possible. I always support my town's mom and pop businesses...

Spend too much time on ATS letting trolls lambaste me just so they get to hear about things they weren't told in school. I admit I do lose patience at times but over all, the more they attack me, the more I get to tell them about our real history.

I let them do what they will and keep standing firm...even if they remain total ###holes...if at some future time when something really odd/wrong happens...they will remember what the people here said to them....maybe it will make a difference

Hopefully most of the OWS will some day grow up too...we could certainly use their help!

sigh

We could use the rights help, OWS is mad at the banks, the fed and Government... The right
will protect the banks, because the banks are a form of business, the right has adopted
ideology that equates regulation with some sort of political sin. So in the instance where
the regulatory battle emerges the right will protect the banks and their industrial practices
that do not work. You deregulate certain things, great can things happen, you deregulate other
things, and like we have seen, the banks over leveraged their lending by 30/1 - that was a deregulatory
practice which was un barred by right wing politicians and sentiment of free marketeer-ing.

Or corporate personhood, which is being championed, solidified and propelled by the conservative
wing of the supreme court. Both things do not help the little guy and both things create huge ripples...
Banks lend far more than they have, because conservative politicians have legalized, with freedom
the ability of banks to use accounting practices and business formation that are not available to
regular people. On top of it, they protect these entities by letting them seek solace in the constitution,
even after they behave like thieves.

What is unbalanced is that OWS is also angry at government besides, banks and corporations...
The Tea Party suggests that business is a victim, but then what happened to personal responsibility?
The Tea Party is useless because they do not care to address the role big money has in the corruption
of government.

They think that being conservative is enough to make a politicians immured to corruption
bribery and graft? It is a kin to magical thinking and it is a formula for failure, which, in
my mind makes me think that conservatives are not really big on outcomes or results, but
very big on words and talk.

What are you guys going to do about the money that funds the politicians, their legislation and
their votes? What are you gonna do about the banks taking risks that threaten the entire economic
foundation of American capitalism?

reply to post by mastahunta


I see what you're saying.

I, for one, have listed a volley of bank regulations that I believe are IMPERATIVE to the safety and soundness of our banking institutions as well as restrictions on what government can do in order to maintain bank stability.

I'm not ANTI-regulation. I'm for regulations that make sound business possible and bad business is minimized.

You can never get rid of corruption. But you CAN minimize it.