When Occupy Wall Streen Accomplishes Nothing - You heard it here first

You know what I see going down here from certain sectors . ENVY .....so much envy exists within the human condition .

Why are some sectors of people who dont like the bankers , dont like the FEd , support Ron Paul , just plain old antagonistic to other people on the streets protesting the SAME .

Its total ENVY as a nature . I ask you to become concious of what you feel and what part of yourself feels like this .

Give up an envious nature towards your fellow man , Become happy with your fellow man . Dont critize each other , but look at the sin as Jesus would say .

Originally posted by radosta
This is what I have gained from this thread:
If you apply reasoned argument against OWS, you deserve to be called a shill, a traitor, stupid, and worse. And apparently you should hang from a lamppost, be shot, imprisoned, or silenced.
Your military service will be ridiculed. You'd think collectivists might appreciate someone willing to give up their life for their countrymen.
Not the America I would fight for.

I came into this thread without a clear concept of OWS. Thank you, OP, for clearing this up for me.

And you are correct, OP. The banks will do themselves in. These "V" wannabes will continue to be a form of entertainment to the elites until their own hubris and ineptitude brings it all down. Then it will be up to hard working individuals with actual skills to rebuild. And to give jobs to the "99%" so they can eat.

Never was a fan of Ayn Rand, but this rabble represents everything she warned about. And by rabble, I refer to the OWS folks as well as their banking elite "enemies". The Laurel and Hardy of early 21st century history.

Amen.

I still havent figured out why they arent protesting in front of congress or the white house.

Wouldnt you go to the root of where the laws originated?

Nah. Makes too much sense.

Back to the Sex Pistols lyric...

"Dont know what I want but I know how to get it..."

ATS is the new right wing extremist site. It's true.

Originally posted by radosta

Originally posted by felonius
reply to post by gncnew

 

One of the few people here that actually get it....

Let me guess.

Family man, worked for a living (and not just a summer job between semesters), and over 30?

I'll bet your cyber butt is sore from all the daggers thrown your way LOL!

sandf

These folks have not a clue that they are falling into a trap that they are helping to build.

Cyber daggers thrown from ipads with the latest apps.
Is there a cyber dagger app!?!

THERES AN APP FOR THAT!!!!!!

Originally posted by L00kingGlass
ATS is the new right wing extremist site. It's true.

Dont fret much comrade,

Plenty of lefties here as well.

Originally posted by felonius

Originally posted by L00kingGlass
ATS is the new right wing extremist site. It's true.

Dont fret much comrade,

Plenty of lefties here as well.

Judging by all the right wing extremist threads lately, looks like ATS got taken over just like everything else.

reply to post by gncnew


So is the OP getting paid by the "Conservatives" (and I use quotation marks because there is nothing conservative about the bulk of the current Republican Party) to post these lame threads?

I just can't imagine why someone would get so upset that they'd post 3 threads back-to-back saying essentially the exact same thing.

Brings me to the conclusion that: 1) He still buys into the red vs blue politics (which is actually the funniest). 2) He's emotionally unstable, probably having been personally offended by one of the OWS people. Or, 3) He's getting paid to make threads like these on various sites.

Originally posted by tyranny22
reply to post by gncnew

 

So is the OP getting paid by the "Conservatives" (and I use quotation marks because there is nothing conservative about the bulk of the current Republican Party) to post these lame threads?

I just can't imagine why someone would get so upset that they'd post 3 threads back-to-back saying essentially the exact same thing.

Brings me to the conclusion that: 1) He still buys into the red vs blue politics (which is actually the funniest). 2) He's emotionally unstable, probably having been personally offended by one of the OWS people. Or, 3) He's getting paid to make threads like these on various sites.

Have you read his replies?:
1) Unlike the bulk of his detractors, he has made it very clear he isn't buying into blue-red politics
2)His replies are very clear headed and rational. Most of his detractors have attacked him and some have seemingly threatened his life. You decide who is emotionally unstable
3)Ah, if you offer an opinion that doesn't conform to the masses, you must be a paid shill (which is actually the funniest)
4) extras! - Unless you have that Ron Paul banner up as an ironic defamation, you would realize that OWS, or at least its ATS supporters, is the exact opposite of what Ron Paul supports.

WOW this place is officially the Libertarian headcounters. Trust me when i say this you are wrong

reply to post by dron020

If you are referring to me, sir, please lay out an explanation as to why that might be. I would like the opportunity to prove that I am, in fact,correct. I will go point by point with it, but I need the reasons why I am supposedly wrong to do so.
Thank you in advance.

Originally posted by gncnew


Obama's administration has been caught lying about Fast and Furious. They've been caught assassinating American Citizens. They've been caught committing fraud by directing millions to insolvent businesses of political contributors.

All you've done is give the MSM you all seem to despise the perfect excuse to ignore the calamity that is the White House.

.... Oh - but you did get to blog about it and probably have YouTube videos with over 2 million hits! Score on that one!

if you had the correct facts you would know that Fast and Furious was a continuation of a bigger op that has been going on long before Obama....
do you still get your news from the MSM?

wow..
I'm wondering if you've ever traveled outside of your zip code?
-
the "all Americans are fat and greedy was about the stupidest comment I've ever read on here.
yes stupid..
it was without true though or consideration of anything other than images you've been shown on the boob tube and other ATS threads; or so I'm inclined to believe..
go travel the world and then travel America.

I couldn't finish the rest of your post..

I tried..
really,
but the wall of ignorance halted all reading

b

Originally posted by L00kingGlass

Originally posted by felonius

Originally posted by L00kingGlass
ATS is the new right wing extremist site. It's true.

Dont fret much comrade,

Plenty of lefties here as well.

Judging by all the right wing extremist threads lately, looks like ATS got taken over just like everything else.

How so, my friend from the other side?

As much as they drive me nuts, they are all quite well represented in numbers...unless you count the centrists.


Trust me, I duel with them enough and even enjoy it sometimes

(at least the ones that can get past their Saul Alinsky training books)!

reply to post by PanhEaD8675


Now was that really necessary?

What was that remark going to accomplish?

If you think the op is BS, just say it and give a reason.

The rest of us are having an adult conversation (even if it is with all the folks from the "kids table")

reply to post by gncnew


You need a reduacation as this is not a thing to do with what you are trying to claim it does. Marine, now go back and be a good little soldier and do what you are told.

reply to post by L00kingGlass


Hence why it is up to us Centrists to keep it centred!

reply to post by gncnew


Anyone that requires change, takes a stand, or questions the norm.. shouldn't be generalized as a tool. I applaud the peaceful protesters for doing what most wouldn't or cannot. They care enough about their families, friends, themselves, and this country... What do you stand for?

reply to post by drapheus


Attacking this movement because that is what he was told to do. Derail the thread and you derail the momentum.

reply to post by L00kingGlass

Originally posted by L00kingGlass
ATS is the new right wing extremist site. It's true.

Not really, but we love Ron Paul and anyone who seeks a return of freedom and liberty. The states/people can govern themselves friend. The Federal Government should get back to what they were designed to do, defend our constitution rights and provide security for these united free states.

Today when Congress passes a statute it is little more than an authorization for an executive agency to make the law by writing the regulations that implement it.

The New Deal resulted in Congress delegating its legislative powers to the executive branch. Prior to the New Deal, legislation was tightly written to minimize any executive branch interpretation. Only in this way can law be accountable to the people. If the executive branch that enforces the law also writes the law, "all legislative powers" are no longer vested in elected representatives in Congress. The Constitution is violated, and the separation of powers is breached.

The principle that power delegated to Congress by the people cannot be delegated by Congress to the executive branch was the mainstay of our political system. Until President Roosevelt overturned this principle by threatening to pack the Supreme Court, the executive branch had no role in interpreting the law.

John Marshall Harlan wrote: "That congress cannot delegate legislative power to the president is a principle universally recognized as vital to the integrity and maintenance of the system of government ordained by the Constitution."

We have had 7 decade of Imperial Presidencies as a result of the new deal legislation!

Consider that in a free country, the states would have the power.

If the people of state A voted against welfare or need no tools to fight extreme poverty then that would be their right. If State B found cause to fight extreme poverty to prevent shanty towns slums, whatever then that would be their right.

The people decide the rule of law, or at least they should! That is what is really at issue. Federal Law should not trump state law, and the people of a state should be able to decide what is best for their state without federal interference. I know it is a touchy subject but the medical Marijuana issues highlights the issues very well.

A good example would be a state by state Entitlement system. If Arkansas had surpluses they could lessen the amount its citizens pay in. If Florida had shortages they could increase the amount their citizens pay in. If the people of NJ decided to not provide SS that would be their right. If you didn’t like it then move to a state that suited you better etc…

It is perfectly ok if we vote to maintain a certain standard of living, or enact rules to fight extreme poverty. The problem is that the Law is no longer accountable to the people.

Consider this:

The borders are wide open, the cartels are associated with Al Qaeda through the heroin trade, and all that would stand in their way would be a few cacti and some rattle snakes. The cartels could truck them in by the truck load, and because there are so many illegal’s in country we could never tell the difference.

Are those in power really concerned about security, or do they serve other interests?

Fascism sucks my friend!