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Originally posted by surrealist
reply to post by hawkiye
So would you then agree that selling recreational drugs is okay in a free market society, as the OP suggested? Not saying there is anything wrong with this as the seller doesn't tell the buyer to how much, if any, to take, the seller just conducts business. I would be quick to dismiss your free market hype as a load of BS however, if you did disagree to this perfectly sound and possible viable business adventure.
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by hawkiye
I'm sure they did... How far would you like to go back? Perhaps the Egyptian culture? How about Sumerian? That's a good 5000-6000 years of organization and laws. You lack the forethought to debate. You ramble on as if you're going to make sense in summary. Not happening...
Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
reply to post by hawkiye
I understand what you are saying but the fact of the matter is the governments are preventing me from getting a job by absolutely flooding the country in with imigrants and restricting job creation whilst companies are either being outsourced or shutting down altogether. The least they can do is stop their reckless policies that prevent people from its own country from getting a job.edit on 29-8-2011 by SpaceMonkeys because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
reply to post by ZindoDoone
Video games are made by a team of designers/artists and a team of programmers.
Originally posted by surrealist
Kozmo and others are just bitter and angry people who think everyone else has to suffer the way they did, hence the judgementalism. I too could cite the three and half years I lived in a small caravan and struggling for the next 10 years and on and on like some martyr and use it as ammunition to attack people, but i tend to empathize with people who might be going through stuff and feel discouraged rather than launch a condescending hypocritical diatribe.
Originally posted by Daughter2
[I'm 100% sure this market was DESIGNED to have to very distinct classes - the rich and the poor. It's called divide and conquer. When you have the majority middle class, everyone is in the same boat and it's them against the government.
When you have two groups fighting each other, they aren't concerned about the third party. Even mean little comments like this are encouraged by the media. And yes, there has been some inappropriate hostile comments towards the wealthy too (Though the wealthy have the means to deal with it a little better).
Keep degrading the poor and calling them lazy and I can guarantee there will be a revolution. Because that's not true and all you are doing is planting the seed of anti-free market which will come around and bite you Mr. Libertarian.
Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
reply to post by hawkiye
I understand what you are saying but the fact of the matter is the governments are preventing me from getting a job by absolutely flooding the country in with imigrants and restricting job creation whilst companies are either being outsourced or shutting down altogether. The least they can do is stop their reckless policies that prevent people from its own country from getting a job.edit on 29-8-2011 by SpaceMonkeys because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
reply to post by hawkiye
I understand what you are saying but the fact of the matter is the governments are preventing me from getting a job by absolutely flooding the country in with imigrants and restricting job creation whilst companies are either being outsourced or shutting down altogether. The least they can do is stop their reckless policies that prevent people from its own country from getting a job.edit on 29-8-2011 by SpaceMonkeys because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
reply to post by kozmo
My degree is in computer games design, and no I would not consider this to be a useless course when the video games and film industry are amongst the biggest industries in the world. The course also allows you to be able to work in TV, film and Graphic Design. The current economic climate has severly damaged the games industry especially in this country,
Originally posted by wisdomnotemotion
The porn industry needs more talents. Americans and Europeans are excellent on this.
Believe it or not, Asians are the rising biggest consumer of free and paid porn.
Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
you need a programming degree if you want to be a programmer. So you can't just make a game by yourself.
Originally posted by hawkiye
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by hawkiye
I'm sure they did... How far would you like to go back? Perhaps the Egyptian culture? How about Sumerian? That's a good 5000-6000 years of organization and laws. You lack the forethought to debate. You ramble on as if you're going to make sense in summary. Not happening...
And here I thought you had a clue... Sigh! You lack the insight and common sense to not under estimate someone you know nothing about. Debate what? Your classlessness? Tell me what was the most sophisticated culture of its time in western Europe that had a thousand years of relative freedom and peace with none of the trappings of government? If you don't know the answer to that then you indeed rushed in like fools often do...
Originally posted by kozmo
Originally posted by Daughter2
[I'm 100% sure this market was DESIGNED to have to very distinct classes - the rich and the poor. It's called divide and conquer. When you have the majority middle class, everyone is in the same boat and it's them against the government.
When you have two groups fighting each other, they aren't concerned about the third party. Even mean little comments like this are encouraged by the media. And yes, there has been some inappropriate hostile comments towards the wealthy too (Though the wealthy have the means to deal with it a little better).
Keep degrading the poor and calling them lazy and I can guarantee there will be a revolution. Because that's not true and all you are doing is planting the seed of anti-free market which will come around and bite you Mr. Libertarian.
I don't doubt your first point in the least. That is precisely WHY people need to stop relying on someone else to employ them and take their skills to market all by themselves! And where did I say poor people were lazy? People who refuse to take their skills and put them to work for themselves are lazy. Perhaps their laziness results in them being poor? That's about the only connection I believe I've ever made. Finally, to refute your final point, my being a Libertarian denotes that I am a free market capitalist. So much so in fact that I advocate FOR people getting off their behinds and putting htemselves to work... for themselves! Not some corporation.
Why are some of you having such a hard time understanding this? Oh wait... I know... because it's easier to whine that no one else is paying you for a job that you're entitled to, right?
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! My handouts are going away!
At what point are people going to realize that it is high time for them to start taking care of themselves? It is not the government's job or place to provide you benefits, counseling, education, healthcare, a job etc... Get off your lazy backsides and DO SOMETHING, just make it constructive and you will reap the rewards.
BTW... the "Country our grandparents built, fought for" etc... is one predicated upon fiat currency, private central banks, huge defitis and dependency on the government. In other words, I don't think our predecesors did a very good job of leaving us much of anything.
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by hawkiye
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by hawkiye
I'm sure they did... How far would you like to go back? Perhaps the Egyptian culture? How about Sumerian? That's a good 5000-6000 years of organization and laws. You lack the forethought to debate. You ramble on as if you're going to make sense in summary. Not happening...
And here I thought you had a clue... Sigh! You lack the insight and common sense to not under estimate someone you know nothing about. Debate what? Your classlessness? Tell me what was the most sophisticated culture of its time in western Europe that had a thousand years of relative freedom and peace with none of the trappings of government? If you don't know the answer to that then you indeed rushed in like fools often do...
Such a weak barrage at critiquing, but it's understandable... You can't help yourself. Put your words to good use, and chime in with a brief history lesson for us... There's not much chance to debate at this point given you're long on questions/ short on statements.
Referring back to your original post I'd quickly add... Free Enterprise systems are an illusion as they're constantly inundated by extraction leading to monopolies (or monarchies depending on time period).