We (Muslims) are going to stone obelisks this Friday.

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I agree with most of the things you say. At the time there was not any grammar source for that language. And that is why we refer to Ahadith for helping source of finding meanings. There are lots of mysteries for that are not so clear about Quran.

I know some thing about sufis , but it is not clear for me. I know that they do their own rituals. I don't know much details.

sorry. I am so tired and my mind is not functioning properly. I must sleep soon.

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Islam is a religion of love and hate. You should know the truth , love it and then you should hate Satan and the things he offers . If you want to know some thing work for yourself.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
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Islam is a religion of love and hate. You should know the truth , love it and then you should hate Satan and the things he offers . If you want to know some thing work for yourself.

And satan is anyone who is not a follower of your god allah, correct ?

Originally posted by Fromabove

So far as I can tell Islam is all about who you hate, who must die, and world conquest. Yet it tries to pass itself off as peace and truth. Just simply admit that you hate everyone not like you and want them either dead or converted as the Quran teaches. Everyone who is not a muslim knows this already. They're just slow to respond to it yet. They haven't all felt personally threatened yet.

So you speak for everybody?

You don't know much about islam or al qua'ran so must be YHO. OK

Originally posted by DeNaga

Originally posted by Fromabove

So far as I can tell Islam is all about who you hate, who must die, and world conquest. Yet it tries to pass itself off as peace and truth. Just simply admit that you hate everyone not like you and want them either dead or converted as the Quran teaches. Everyone who is not a muslim knows this already. They're just slow to respond to it yet. They haven't all felt personally threatened yet.

So you speak for everybody?

You don't know much about islam or al qua'ran so must be YHO. OK

I read the Quran. I watched how the followers of it lived and acted out it's commands. I understood the Quran and the people who obey it. It has proven itself to be a book of war and hate towards everyone and anything not expressly Islam.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by DeNaga

 

I agree with most of the things you say. At the time there was not any grammar source for that language. And that is why we refer to Ahadith for helping source of finding meanings. There are lots of mysteries for that are not so clear about Quran.

I know some thing about sufis , but it is not clear for me. I know that they do their own rituals. I don't know much details.

sorry. I am so tired and my mind is not functioning properly. I must sleep soon.

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Sorry, I can't let you get away with that one. These are things I learned years ago. If you really study the language you would know not to deal with hadith.

And you should not talk about freemasonry if you don't know anything about it or sufism. After all who gave the word to muhammed and who taught isa, moses, and ibrahim.

Originally posted by Fromabove

Originally posted by DeNaga

Originally posted by Fromabove

So far as I can tell Islam is all about who you hate, who must die, and world conquest. Yet it tries to pass itself off as peace and truth. Just simply admit that you hate everyone not like you and want them either dead or converted as the Quran teaches. Everyone who is not a muslim knows this already. They're just slow to respond to it yet. They haven't all felt personally threatened yet.

So you speak for everybody?

You don't know much about islam or al qua'ran so must be YHO. OK

I read the Quran. I watched how the followers of it lived and acted out it's commands. I understood the Quran and the people who obey it. It has proven itself to be a book of war and hate towards everyone and anything not expressly Islam.

What Commands are you talking about? Don't just throw some ish out there hoping that it sticks. If you read the book then you should realize that it's not that much different from the bible other than isa or jesus is just a prophet and not the savior.

Most of these so-called followers do not follow al qur'aan and know nothing about the prophet muhammad(PBUH).

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
reply to post by PapaEmeritus

 

I have enough knowledge to see that the bible teaches love and the coran does not.
I see it in the news almost every day as well.
But you are entitled to your oppinion.
Have fun throwing rocks and be careful not to hurt anyone.

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If the bible teaches love and the Qur'an doesn't then why does the bible have more violent passages than the Qur'an? The bible has 843 violent passages the Qur'an only has 333. Even chicken little says it's not a violent religion.

Probably because of the Old Testament mostly.

How is this even possible if Islam is an extension of the same teachings and completion of God's work? They must have heavily ammended both the OT and NT for their scriptures if it has less violence and bloodshed.

Originally posted by PapaEmeritus
reply to post by Rosha

 

I mean there is also talmud in there, All I ever get is people nit picking and never answering the actual question....typical

Sorry. You are WRONG.
I repeat, there is NO Talmud in the bible - the first 5 books are from the TORAH. Talmud is NOT scripture it is secular jewish 'law' and 'lore'. The Talmud is an ENTRIELY different document.

Its not 'nictpicking' to tell the truth and get facts straight!

Im not muslim so I cant answer your question directly...though if you meant this one "is it hard to believe in the quran knowing it is a basic copy of the christian bible? " then again, you are academically wrong. It isnt. It cant be as there is no such thing as a "christian" bible.








Rosha.

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And to think, our Closet Muslim President, Barak Obama once again, this year, takes his family vacation during Ramadan to hide his fasting.

Tisk, Tisk, Tisk...

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Is he a mason or not ?

Isn't he the man who sacrifices himself in 2012 movie?

Originally posted by hmdphantom
This Friday is the last Friday of Ramazan ( a lunar Muslim's month) and it is called the Qods day.

Qods = Jerusalem.

Muslims go rallying these day to show that they want Qods back. They express that they are not satisfied with this New World Order

Some history about Muslims

Muslims are people who have been stoning obelisk for more than 1400 years. They are the people who are aware of the insiders. They know that freemasonry is in the end of it's way. Muslims want to live freely and they want to worship their own god the one and only God

They stone the Satan's symbol in Mecca to avoid the wrong he has done to himself. Like other prophets Muhammad was saying the same thing : " Worship the one and only God " .

Let me tell you one thing. The the one and only phrase which is being used in your Media is the adjective for god . If you believe that for example we have the one and only Michael Jackson then the judgment day you will be one of his followers in the judgment day and you will be judged as he will be judged.

Any way , some history :

The ritual on stoning the pillars representing the devil is based on some Hadith narrations about Prophet Abraham. According to these Ahadith, the positions of the three pillars are supposed to be the places from where Satan (or Shaitaan) tried to tempt and misguide Prophet Ibrahim (pbuh) three times into disobeying Allah Almighty by dissuading Ibrahim from carrying out Allah's order. But each time Prophet Ibrahim saw (or felt) the presence of the devil trying to lure him, Angel Gabriel told him to respond by throwing a stone (or stones) at Shaitaan (or Iblis). Thus, the devil failed to distract Ibrahim. It is said that the location of the three pillars at Mina mark the points where Satan stood, attempting to mislead Abraham. For this reason pilgrims throw stones on the pillars. The pillars represent the places where Shaitaan stood. Therefore, the purpose of throwing stones on the pillars is to express our contempt for the devil where he was once said to have stood

source

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How do we interpret this history

There are some govt which are doing evil things and they are not leaving Muslims alone.may because the know that Muslims are not passive people who prefer to sit there and do nothing. Islam is always a do some thing religion.

And, Muslims are aware these days and they won't leave those govts to do as they like. Mumens obey the one and only God and they don't tend to obey any Satan.

So , Muslims will reject The axis of evil this Friday. They will stone and burn the symbols of evil this Friday.

if the one and only God wills

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First of all its called ramadan
second, if anything it would be pronounced ramathan.
third, the last day of ramadan is called eid ( said : Eed)

Quds Day (Persian: روز قدس rūz-e quds), officially in Iran known as International al-Quds Day (روز جهانی قدس), is an annual event on the last Friday of Ramadan,[1] expressing solidarity with the Palestinian people and opposing Zionism as well as Israel's control of Jerusalem.

Quds Day rallies were first introduced in non-Arab Iran by the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979,[2] and the day's parades are sponsored and organized annually by the Iranian government there.[3][4] In recent years, only a marginal proportion of young Iranians have attended.[5]

Quds Day is also commemorated in several countries in the Arab and Muslim world with protests against the Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem

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i didn't post that cause im pro-muslim, i posted it cause he was being bullied.

im a christian x

Originally posted by ShadowZion

Quds Day rallies were first introduced in non-Arab Iran by the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979,[2] and the day's parades are sponsored and organized annually by the Iranian government there.[3][4] In recent years, only a marginal proportion of young Iranians have attended.[5]

Quds Day is also commemorated in several countries in the Arab and Muslim world with protests against the Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem

We (Muslims) are unites and you are condemned to fail. There is no time for your divide and conquer tactic. We will get every single Zionist out of Palestine , if the god wills.

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You do know that everybody in the West isn't an ultra idealistic Christian hell-bent on war right? Many like myself couldn't care less about which religion you practice or what you want to believe in. I've had some amazing conversations with those of the Muslim faith and gave them the same respect that they gave me. I'm not religious at all yet I have Jewish heritage from many generations back.

Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by pplrnuts
Theres tons of 'gods', so how is YOUR 'god' the one and only?

May be there are different understandings of god but the there is only one truth. It is how it is.

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I personally believe in evolution, m theory, big bang, all that good science stuff that some people hate on. Lots of science loving people hate on other things very often, commonly religion. I believe the entire universe is "god" in the sense that plenty of religions talk of. It makes sense when one believes in big bang and evolution that the universe is what created us. Out of the big bang, a hot soup of sub atomic particles forged into massive clouds of particles as "space" expanded forever outwards. From highly concentrated clouds of particles stars were formed by the known forces of the universe always at play, gravity, nuclear forces etc. Planets formed around stars, and stars collapsed into supermassive black holes which pull in stars creating the galaxies, like our spiral arm milky way. Life arose from the heat and energy of the sun arranging extremely small bits of matter. The sun in a way is literally our god, if one believes in big bang theory and the idea that a god created us.

That is why I believe the universe is our god, the one and only god, and god is how it is. I do not believe that the universe (god) is conscious, but consciousness is only a biproduct of unconscious atoms eventually forming life. Consciousness came from unconsciousness, and the universe is probably above both if we could view if from the outside in.

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Thank you for reply. I wish that you have better days with religion before it is too late.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by BrawleR

 

Thank you for reply. I wish that you have better days with religion before it is too late.

Thank you your sentiment. I wish you a long healthy life filled with happiness.

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Dear hmdphantom,

Where to begin? Firstly, thanks for the post, i'm glad you're proud of your religion! That's about as much nicety as I can muster.

All religion is a joke, it's all about making people like you, hate people like us. It is the single most widely practiced form of mind control there is. I do wish people would educate themselves rather than blindly follow the teachings of men, not Gods.

T

Well, you'd better get the Zionists out of the White House while your at it too then,
Cause they're taking over the freaking world.