The Tea Party is anti-democratic and guilty of abuse of power

reply to post by macman


Since most of the elected officials are Republicans, at least around here they are, then they must be responsible for the evils you portray. The gverment we have is representavive of some pretty conservative views.

I think you confuse the idea that we have two nominally Democratic Senators that the entire state is that way.

Feinstein is more Republican than Democrat, and Boxer leans that way, not that those labels mean much, both parties suck.

Like I said, the realities on the ground are very different, but then Tea-partiers aren't very well grounded in any reality I'm familiar with.

Almost every politicain in the White House pratically even the ones who call themselves conservatives have done Progessive liberal stuff for decades upon decades.They call themselves conservatives but they practice the same progessive liberal ideas when it comes down to spending money and expanding government.

Originally posted by SFA437
But... but... don't you GET it?

If you do not bow down before the Obamessiah you are obstructionist and anti-democracy? Only by suborning your beliefs and free will to Him in all His Glory shall you ever be "reasonable" and "bi-partisan" and "enlightened. The path to the country's salvation is through Him and His Will.

Sheesh I think you guys should know this by now.

Star for you, I think you summed up Obama and his cult of followers perfectly.

reply to post by Flatfish



We are laughing now. Wait until some sort of panel has to decide who gets a kidney, heart surgery, etc... "We know you are a law abiding citizen and taxpayer, but the slacker who sits on his but needs your left kidney. We need more Democrat voters, so we need to sacrifice an undeclared voter."

Future of affirmative action... "Organ transplants according to political loyalty. If you belong to any of the opposition, your organs will be collected and transplanted into a Democrat voter. No other parties or undeclared voters apply."

Progress at its best.

Originally posted by Bramble Iceshimmer

Originally posted by SFA437
But... but... don't you GET it?

If you do not bow down before the Obamessiah you are obstructionist and anti-democracy? Only by suborning your beliefs and free will to Him in all His Glory shall you ever be "reasonable" and "bi-partisan" and "enlightened. The path to the country's salvation is through Him and His Will.

Sheesh I think you guys should know this by now.

Star for you, I think you summed up Obama and his cult of followers perfectly.

Hollowed are the Obamari... I mean Ori!

Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by macman

 

Since most of the elected officials are Republicans, at least around here they are, then they must be responsible for the evils you portray. The gverment we have is representavive of some pretty conservative views.

I think you confuse the idea that we have two nominally Democratic Senators that the entire state is that way.

Feinstein is more Republican than Democrat, and Boxer leans that way, not that those labels mean much, both parties suck.

Like I said, the realities on the ground are very different, but then Tea-partiers aren't very well grounded in any reality I'm familiar with.

You obviously do not know what you are talking about or you are lying. Which is it? Feinstein is no Republican. 70 memebers of Congress have been exposed as members of the Democratic SOCIALISTS of America,. They are Democrats. People like Maxine Watters have a goal of socialising(nationalizing) the energy industry, and other large sectors of the economy. This is tantamount to the goal of communism which is control of all means of production by the State, or translated as Statism. Under the State, all people exist to serve the State. So if you by some remote chance(which I doubt after reading your posts) you wish to stop being a slave to the State and regain your liberty, then stop listening to the liars who peddle socialism as the answer to our problems. Sounds to me like you enjoy being on the govt dole. Maybe it's the only way you have had to survive, but that does not mean it is right.

reply to post by inforeal


No, our country is most certainly not a democracy and a republic. It is either one or the other i.e. rule of the majority or rule of the Law. You can't have it both ways, sorry. To say the "tea party" is anti-democratic is, in reality, a compliment, as democracy is nothing more than tyranny by majority as opposed to tyranny by the few or the one.

reply to post by inforeal
It is interesting to me that those calling the Tea Party and others who look to our Constitution as the framework and basis for our Government are called wackos; that those who want limited Government are called wackos, that those who want to keep what they earn are called wackos; that those who believe our "Bill of Rights" are in fact Rights are called wackos and that those who believe our government has long since gotten too big, too intrusive and too much like some kind of socialistic dictatorship are called wackos. Meanwhile, many of us consider you on the Left to be Traitors, Parasites and what is destroying our country but you get to exist and aren't in prison cells or deported because again, we believe in our Bill of Rights and Constitution. I am not a member of the Tea Party or any so called extremist group, I am a member of the Silent Majority whose is not being so silent here and who is supporting the people who are pushing to cut this government back back back and then some.

Originally posted by Jobeycool
Almost every politicain in the White House pratically even the ones who call themselves conservatives have done Progessive liberal stuff for decades upon decades.They call themselves conservatives but they practice the same progessive liberal ideas when it comes down to spending money and expanding government.

Joey I agree with you. Michael Savage exposed Bush as a fiscal socialist. That is partly why the spending went up. EIther that or he just caved to the socialists running things. But he is a 3rd Generation Bonesman, and the wealthy elite have always supported the One World Statist govt. They financed Hitler, the Bolsheviks and the entire communist revolution, as Soros does now. Socialism is but an intermediary step to one world communist dictatorship. Even the communist websites say that.

yep that teaparty passed obamacare,created social security,medicaid,medicare and started 6 wars and spent 14 trillion dollars of debt.

yes yes!!! those evil tea parties!

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


I fought communists so my thumbprint wouldn't be taken every time I tried to get a government service, so they told me.

Now I just have to give it to banks to cash a check: their rules, not government's.

I fought communists for freedom's sake: the freedom not to piss in a cup for a job.

I fought communists so America would be strong, and the corporations moved my goddam job(s) to to communist countries becuase the workers could be had cheaper there, the environment ignored, and in the process made my country weaker.

Like I said earlier....abysmally ignorant.

Have you actually fought commies? Dodged their rockets, mortars, bullets, and booby traps?

reply to post by MajorKarma


Excellent post all the way!!!!!

Extremism sucks..American people are generally centerists..extremism only represents the fringe elements. negotiation between the two partys for a halfway mark is always the best bet, not sure why the norma-con's are cheering for the hard right tea partys corporatist agenda...why? should they have their way, then soon =you= will be considered the lefty liberal...

Anyhow, no matter...the republicans will suffer for their choices in 12. they have decided to side with the most fringe element of their group, which a overwhelming majority of americans find absolutely distasteful...you thought 08 was a landslide...wait till you see what happens next year.

Which is sad...I don't like supermajorities. I truely believe the only real solution is strong debate between the two partys followed by a commonsense compromise...too much of one thing is never a good idea.


In saying that, I would rather live in denmark than somolia

Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

I fought communists so my thumbprint wouldn't be taken every time I tried to get a government service, so they told me.

Now I just have to give it to banks to cash a check: their rules, not government's.

I fought communists for freedom's sake: the freedom not to piss in a cup for a job.

I fought communists so America would be strong, and the corporations moved my goddam job(s) to to communist countries becuase the workers could be had cheaper there, the environment ignored, and in the process made my country weaker.

Like I said earlier....abysmally ignorant.

Have you actually fought commies? Dodged their rockets, mortars, bullets, and booby traps?

That's funny, you don't sound like you fight communists. You sound like a socialist all the way. I do not believe you. I think you are twisting things. It has always been the communists who hated Capitalism. You sound like a communist to me. You cannot be fighting communism when you hate Capitalists so much. The problem is that the large corporations have ruined free enterprise for all of us and have been employed by people in govt. That is what the UN AGenda 21 is about, public/private partnership. That is even a buzz term of the Agenda 21 if you read their documents, you will know. AGenda 21 is the set up of the One World govt. Maybe you are just misinformed, which is easy to imagine, as there are many liars in the world. Study what is happening with the UN AGenda 21 and you will see that not only is it the mechanism for bringing all corporations under One World Domination, it is also used to bring indigenous peoples under the umbrella of the Totalitarian NWO. These people are lying to you. I am actually saying this out of love because only love brings truth and reality.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Which is sad...I don't like super-majorities. I truly believe the only real solution is strong debate between the two parties followed by a commonsense compromise...too much of one thing is never a good idea.

Agreed.

We need checks and balances, or we will have run-a-way government.

Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by macman

 

Since most of the elected officials are Republicans, at least around here they are, then they must be responsible for the evils you portray. The gverment we have is representavive of some pretty conservative views.

I think you confuse the idea that we have two nominally Democratic Senators that the entire state is that way.

Feinstein is more Republican than Democrat, and Boxer leans that way, not that those labels mean much, both parties suck.

Like I said, the realities on the ground are very different, but then Tea-partiers aren't very well grounded in any reality I'm familiar with.

SO US House of Representatives seats for Kommifornia are 19 reps out of 53.
Both Senate are Dems.
Board of Equalization is 2 Rep out of 5.
State Senate is 15 Rep out of 40.
State Assembly is 28 Rep out of 80.
Of the 10 largest cities, there are 3 Rep Mayors.


So, yeah. REAL RED huh???

Originally posted by neo96
yep that teaparty passed obamacare,created social security,medicaid,medicare and started 6 wars and spent 14 trillion dollars of debt.

yes yes!!! those evil tea parties!

Started 6 wars?
Not a fan of that bit.

incidently, its 1 offical (and endless) war, 1 almost retracted war, and the rest are skirmishes and UN no fly zones or whatnot...but who is counting

reply to post by SaturnFX

I differently disagree. We need at least four years of extremist Tea Party to gut the government and reduce it to a few departments and strip a lot of laws and rules. It's a war for the future of the United States and causalities are to be expected.

Originally posted by Section31

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Which is sad...I don't like super-majorities. I truly believe the only real solution is strong debate between the two parties followed by a commonsense compromise...too much of one thing is never a good idea.

Agreed.

We need checks and balances, or we will have run-a-way government.

I talked to my dad the day after the 08 elections, he asked if I was happy about the results that the dems sweeped.
I was of course happy O won over McCain, but I actually wasn't happy about the supermajority in the house...he couldn't understand why considering I am clearly a liberal.

Its not about just me though, the country is not just liberal, or just conservative..its a mixed bag of nuts that need representation...I hated it in 2000-2006 when the repubs owned everything, and no, its not a good idea to go the opposite end of the spectrum.

2010 should have been a year of moderate and sane repubs taking over the congress, but instead, the people (in their infinate wisdom) sent forth old school gop culture warriors to polarize the rest of the party and make the whole thing crash down, and not in a good and needed way..

The moment the ron paul tea party fiscal responsibility moved into the koch brothers tea party social conservatism and bring down the democrat president, thats when the message got shot out the window into oblivion.

OP, how is the Tea Party anti-democratic or guilty of an abuse of power? Is it because they won't sit back and knowingly sign America's death warrant? This is just the usually checks and balances that are party of Republic. However, given the hot button nature of this issue people are being attacked and made out as villains for doing the bidding of their constituents. They are doing only what the voters expected them to do when they were elected in 2010.

The astronomical debt and deficit spending is going to be the straw that breaks the camels back. It is unsustainable, and that is not political rhetoric or showboating. It is simple common sense. Bold and direct action needs to be taken now, because kicking the can down the road is only making the problem bigger. The Democrats had ample opportunity to sort this thing out when they had the majority, but they chose to partake in other activities. Is the President and his band of merry men and women burning the midnight oil to facilitate a deal and stave off this potential train wreck? No, they are spreading fear and commotion.

Threatening senior citizens, the vulnerable, the military, and government employees with stopping their pay? Moreover, he and the Democrats are playing political football with this issue. They are going to drag their feet as long as possible in hopes the Tea Party and Republicans fall on their own sword. In essence, it appears the President is out for a blank check to spend to his heart's content. Hopefully, that does not happen, and the line in the sand is drawn now instead of later. The time has come to sort this mess out. It is not Republican, Democrat, Tea Party, or any label for that matter, but taking preventive action to insure against disaster.

I'm angry and ashamed that the so called "tea party" took it upon themselves to label them as tea partyiest's from the beginnings of the Revolution of 1776.

The so-called modern "Tea Party" is made up of nothing more than a group of "extortionist's" and terrorist's who are hell bent on destroying the worlds economy and the social fabric of the United States of America. If you do not agree with this statement then you are also part of the problem.

A quote from Charles Kruthammar:

"The Tea Party, given the reality, trying to force the issue- turn a blocking minority into a governing authority- is not just counter-constitutional in sprit but self destructive in practice."