Pentagon Deploying 20,000 Troops In U.S.

reply to post by jaycen420


do I need congressional authorisation to do so??

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Waht they want to do is decide, in advance of anythign disastrous happening, how many of the existing service people can be used, and for what roles, and how they would have to be authorised to do so.

And they think that they can see how 400,000 of them can be used.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with "posting" 400,000 personnel into the USA!

And your position in The Pentagon is? And you know this because?
And you served in the military? Or your National Gaurd?

Oh, nevermind...

Originally posted by jaycen420
they say its for civil unrest, so maybe they know that the American population is at the ends of their rope?

or for the chaos that ensues during a mass biological weapon attack that becomes a Zombie Apocalypse....

not being funny here...

This is why you have Rifles. You keep the government in check , the government doesnt keep you in check ... they are forgetting this .... ( this is within means , dont get crazy about what i just said)

If they start supressing the people .... supress them with bullets , 6 mm preffered , personal amor penetration.


6mm is just rounded up from 5.6.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by jaycen420

 

do I need congressional authorisation to do so??

Only from the top levels my friend

Originally posted by prevenge

Originally posted by jaycen420
they say its for civil unrest, so maybe they know that the American population is at the ends of their rope?

or for the chaos that ensues during a mass biological weapon attack that becomes a Zombie Apocalypse....

not being funny here...

have ya seen my avatar...i dont joke when it comes to the Zombie Apocalypse.
Well i bet that just killed this thread

reply to post by tonyinawareness


As I said before, Nuclear, Chemical and Biological incidents will fall under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government. Any and all other disasters are the perview of the state and only the state. The FEderal Government, namely FEMA, has no authority unless A. The State requests FEMA activation and response and B. The President declared a federal disaster to authorize a FEMA response.

Just because a State requess doesnt mean FEMA assistance will be granted. FEMA cannot, and neither can the federal government for that matter, respond to a state incident without being requested.

No any one state will be ready to deal with a nuke / chemical / bio atack.

If that ever occured I dont think the deployment of 20k federal troops is going to be at the forefront of those who are directly affected.

I really don't think it is a fair fight even with an armed public since they've got tanks and fighter jets.

What I really, really hate is us having to even go down this road of THINKING that we'd have to defend ourselves against our children- because THAT is who the military is, and hopefully THAT will be our biggest defense.

However, we know that humans will do things they know they shouldn't do if authority tells them to- so that's who we've got to keep straight - the authority.

Originally posted by roche
when US defaults on its debt next week, there are going to be chaos everywhere.
20,000 troops may not be enough.

edit on 24-7-2011 by roche because: (no reason given)

Why would the Fseeral debt have anything at all to do with States and 20k troops for a nuke/chem/bio attack?

reply to post by jaycen420


If this is true, then it has begun. If so, Fema camps are in the horizon.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Points taken.....

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
So you folks all want your military to sit around with its finger up its jacksie if there's ever a national disaster, and not be used to help where it can??

No sir we want them to do what everyone else will do get home take care of their familys ( because thats more important ) and meet up with us for the bbq and aid work because its the people's job a job they cant do while on duty. Then we can stand as brothers to fix any prob. that needs to be fixed,The way it should be.

The military should be able to return home in any such case to take care of their own they wont be doing it as soldiers but as citizens with the rest of us. I dont want them to try to control people just like I am sure they dont want people to come in and try to control their familys.

They are fighting for our freedom not to control us so they have no place in stoping a show of freedom such as civil unrest or protests or anyother display. To tell you the truth I dont know what makes them think that the soldiers wont say we are american first then we are military ( witch I hope they would as I have a lot of faith in them and their desire for the true defence of freedom).

So as you can guess I personally find the thought of them trying to police us really disturbing as I hope they do and decide that if such a time came they would go home and take care of their familys instead. Thats what I would be doing.

Seems that in the past 6 months here on ATS, the more vehemently and passionately the dis-info agents and sock puppets decry and attempt to debunk a thread, the more on my radar that issue becomes.
The subject matter of the OP in this thread is now foremost on my radar.
ETA: I find it especially important when their frothy passion to debunk causes them to completely forget how to spell to the point of near unreadability!

Originally posted by MasterGemini
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

I do not ever want military EVER walking around on the streets.

FYI I live in Tucson and there have been A-10's overrunning the skies practically nonstop since the Libya non-war (LOL explain how thats not a war please Xcathdra pro-government goomba)

I dont want military walking around my streets either. However, in the event of a nuke / chemical / biological attack where are we going to pull resources from? You cant exactly yank 20k law enforcement personell, since you would essentially be stripping all lw enforcement.

As I stated before Nuke / Chemical / Bio attacks are not state jurisdiction anyways, its Federal. You guys miss the level of damage / infection these incidents can cause. New York city has around 40k police officers. If a nuk / Bio / chem attack occurs there do you really think 40k NYPD officers are going to be exempted from being infected or killed?

This is preparedness, which by the way is what a LOT of people do on this sight for when "TSHTF". I find it humerous its ok for you guys to prep, yet when the government does its taken as a threat to the people...

As far as the paranoid A-10 comment -

Davis-Monthan Airforce base is located within 5 miles of Tuscon. They are home of the 335th fighter wing of the 12th ariforce..

Want to take a guess what the predominant makeup is of the 335th fighterwing?

A-10 Thunderbolt II aircraft.

So we have A-10s flying near tuscon, with an airforce base within 5 miles of tuscon, which houses the 335th fighter wing of the 12th airforce made up of a-10's.

Yup... something to be paranoid about.

As far aswhat constitutes a war in Libya, ask Congress not me. Congress is not required to use the term war when authorizing the use of military force. Peolpe would know this if they actually would read the constitution and understand how it works.

Originally posted by BarmyBilly
reply to post by Nobama

 

A few shots are enough to disperse a crowd of thousands, regardless if half of you are armed, a few handguns is no match for a professionally trained army.

Ummm. My English friend...

Remember, say about, 200 years ago?

Things have progressed a bit further than pistols bro.

20k? No prob.

I just hope they're all foreign! I love blue!

It appears that 20000 troops will not subdue millions of angry mobs, IMO. They must be just starting figures. A million troops will be needed, to say the least, to subdue this huge angry nation. They are getting ready to spread the icing on this cake, which has been baking for a long time.

Climate change? Nope.

reply to post by MasterGemini


What are you talking about?

We had to deploy troops, in addition to National Guard and police, into New Orleans in 2005. That is fact.

We has to do the same during the LA Riots back in the 1990s.

The National Guard and the police can only handle so many people, especially in situations where a city of hundreds of thousands or millions is involved.

In addition, active duty forces have unique capabilties in regards to medevac, airlift, NBC decontamination, etc. that can be used to aid and assist National Guard and police.

Originally posted by dgtempe
It appears that 20000 troops will not subdue millions of angry mobs, IMO. They must be just starting figures. A million troops will be needed, to say the least, to subdue this huge angry nation. They are getting ready to spread the icing on this cake, which has been baking for a long time.

Climate change? Nope.

Ah yes more paranoia and fearmongering.

Where do you guys get this from? The article talks about the training and placement of 20k troops in the event of the nuclear chemical or biological attack. How do you go from that to your paranoid delusions?

Originally posted by Elostone
Seem that in the past 6 months here on ATS, the more vehemently and passionately the dis-info agents and sock puppets decry and attempt to debunk a thread, the more on my radar that issue becomes.
The subject matter of the OP in this thread is now foremost on my radar.

ETA: I find it especially important when their frothy passion to debunk causes them to completely forget how to spell to the point of near unreadability!

LOL you noticed the misspelling too, Yea there are always people out there trying to discredit whatever they can. Especially if its close to the truth. Kinda makes ya wonder huh?

Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Waht they want to do is decide, in advance of anythign disastrous happening, how many of the existing service people can be used, and for what roles, and how they would have to be authorised to do so.

And they think that they can see how 400,000 of them can be used.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with "posting" 400,000 personnel into the USA!

And your position in The Pentagon is? And you know this because?
And you served in the military? Or your National Gaurd?

Because I read the article - perhaps you should too??

Oh, nevermind...

Indeed...