Pentagon Deploying 20,000 Troops In U.S.

reply to post by jaycen420


Posting a video without placing it into context creates a visual to people who are not familiar with the story.

Intentioanlly laeving out / omitting information paints a picture...

Often times, and incorrect picture.. just like this thread...

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by jaycen420

 

Posting a video without placing it into context creates a visual to people who are not familiar with the story.

Intentioanlly laeving out / omitting information paints a picture...

Often times, and incorrect picture.. just like this thread...

edit on 24-7-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

Im still not sure what i "Intentionaly" left out?
I see you as just another Troll...so Troll on....

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Isn't this what the National Guard is supposed to be for?

State guard units can be used, provided the state authorizes them to assist in anohter state. If a Chemical / Biological or Nuclear incident occurs, its entirely posible any state guard units would be affected.. Keep in mind that in addition to the initial point of exposure, you also have to deal with winds, water as well as any people who might be infected that make it outside of any cordon set up.

In an incident that deals with those 3 types of incidents I can see some type of martial law being declared in order to prevent a typhoid mary situation.

The horrifying part, after the detonation / exposure, is not the people who are dead. The nightmare scenario are going to be the people who are exposed and potentially contagious.

In addition to an incdident of this type affecting state guard units, its also going to affect and and all law enforcement present, from local to state to federal.

What then?

Originally posted by VenomVile.6
reply to post by autopat51

 

At the Ontario Airport. Thats in Ontario California, San Barnardino county...
I seen 4 near a hanger...

i used to park at the TA truckstop, everytime my idiot dispatchers sent me to the LA area...right by the airport...never seen them in there before

Originally posted by jaycen420
Im still not sure what i "Intentionaly" left out?
I see you as just another Troll...so Troll on....

Shall we start with the title of your thread? 20k troops arent being deployed anywhere in the US

From there we can move on to the article you linked, which contains yet another misleading title that infers the use of troops to put down uprisings and declaring martial law, which is not even close to what this is designed to do.

Instead of disclosing that information in your post, you ignored it and went along with it. The intent of your post was to draw a picture of something that is not accurate or remotely close t being true.

Its called a lie of omission... Its up there without outright lying... When the info is not accurate, and you know this and ignore it, your just as much to blame as the people who intentionally mislead in the OP.

I am not trolling you.. What I am doing to you, is what you are trying to do to the government - Holding you accountible for your post and the inferences you make from it.

Ill stop trolling when you place the info into context and quit fearmongering.

The motto of this website is to deny ignorance, not embrace, and certainly not help sell it.

reply to post by Xcathdra

Well until u come up with a source saying that they are not employing troops here i will stick to what this thread is about. You just come here and claim that its wrong?? wheres the proof?? At least i have something backing up what my thread is about.

What Xcathdra? You don't think there is a reason to be VERY concerned about what is coming to our country? What some of us have been seeing get setup for many years because they know they have screwed us and they know that we'll just take it till we are hungry. Think they are about to let people be hungry? The people they robbed from? "Just stay quiet and take it folks. And don't you talk back or give no sas now.. Or we'll have to hurt ya!"

Originally posted by jaycen420
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

Well until u come up with a source saying that they are not employing troops here i will stick to what this thread is about. You just come here and claim that its wrong?? wheres the proof?? At least i have something backing up what my thread is about.

Thank you for proving my point.. Instead of correcting the mis information in your op, you are just going to stand by it. I posted the origional article btw, which pretty much disporves your post and your source, since its taken out of ceontext.

Feel free to read the origoional article that doesnt fear monger, then compar it to your source. then get back to me.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by jaycen420
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

Well until u come up with a source saying that they are not employing troops here i will stick to what this thread is about. You just come here and claim that its wrong?? wheres the proof?? At least i have something backing up what my thread is about.

Thank you for proving my point.. Instead of correcting the mis information in your op, you are just going to stand by it. I posted the origional article btw, which pretty much disporves your post and your source, since its taken out of ceontext.

Feel free to read the origoional article that doesnt fear monger, then compar it to your source. then get back to me.

Your article was from 2008 it is 2011 now,
you dont think things have changed since then?
and the article said the troops were being deployed.
LOL the washington post?? now there is a reliable source.
Of course they wouldnt tell the whole story.

I hope this crap ain't going to go down.

Originally posted by Apollumi
What Xcathdra? You don't think there is a reason to be VERY concerned about what is coming to our country? What some of us have been seeing get setup for many years because they know they have screwed us and they know that we'll just take it till we are hungry. Think they are about to let people be hungry? The people they robbed from? "Just stay quiet and take it folks. And don't you talk back or give no sas now.. Or we'll have to hurt ya!"

Of course if a nuclear / chemical or biological attack occured / threat received I would be very concerned. However what you and some others ignore is if an attack does occur, nothing in the affected region will be able to be used because they are well, contaminated or dead.

Its going to require resources from outside the area / region.

Any type of incident is going to fall under the jurisdiction of the state. The ONLY exception to that is in the vent of chemical biological or nuclear, which will remain the jurisdiction of the FEDS because of the amount of resources required, the sieze of the affected area, and the political / military ramifications that go beyond the border of the state.

Having troops trained and ready to assist is a whole lot better than using 20k troops who have had absolutely no training in this area. Its one thing to be military and in a foreign country during a time of war to dealing with people during a crisis while operating under a hybrid federal and state mandate.

The manner this is being sold by some is a joke. The troops will receive training and will eb ready to be deployed if needed. The insinuation in the OP is that we will have 20k troops on the sidewalk by weeks end is a joke.

If we want to go down that road we can by virtue of the number of active duty and reserve troops currently based inside the US. Are they a threat to civil law? do we hvae them threatening to invoke martial law?

Yeah... going back to omission, misinterpretation and leaving out basic info to place this into context.

Fearmongering and nothing more.

Do some research.... My article is from 2008, which your OP article references in passing while trying to imply its occuring now in 2011, which its not. The insinuation of your article is this has been in the works and is now being delpooyed is not true.

And yes, things to chage - however Posses Commitatus is still in place, there is no nucealr / checmical / biological attack on going...

at 1:15 the man says: "Policing your own people?? Sounds like you're in Afghanistan or something". Thats like saying: "The police just shot him?? We're not in the hood".

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reply to post by jaycen420


Deploying the military within the army just hasten's their rejection of the government and fills the ranks of the rebels.

If they want to sign their own death certificate, they have all the right in the world.

reply to post by ProphecyPhD


And those who fall victem to RT TV deserve a swift kick in the butt in hopes it will shake their head free...

What was discussed is in the vent of a nuclaer chemical or biological incident. What on Gods green earth makes you think a city, county or state will have adequate resources to deal with something of that magnitude?

Why do you and other assume that using Federal Resources will be the end of this Republic?

Why are you guys so paranoid?

reply to post by Xcathdra


Because this is ATS - this is where the paranoid congregate!!

reply to post by jaycen420


20,000 troops is nothing really... That wouldn't even tame one city.

Originally posted by autopat51
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

everything you say is very true
but what would they be looking for?

Information - if the cell phone and other networks are down then information for making decisions becomes much harder to get.

Basic questions like how many peoeple are there at various points? where are people travelling to? What bridges and roads are still working? I'm sure you can think of more.

TPTB in an emergency might not make the best decisions - but you can bet that if they don't know anything then they will make worse ones! Hence information gathering, analysis and dissemination becomes a massive priority in an emergency.

And it won't happen if you haven't prepared for it beforehand.

the A-10 is optimised for low level flying, at low speed, with a long loiter time and considerable range, and to operate from poorly prepared strips. It is equipped with low light and other targeting systems that will enable pilots to gather info in bad weather or at night.

Also I think it is still operated by a lot of ANG units, so is available at state level as well as federal.

I can think of a/c that would be better too - lots of small high-wing civil a/c like Cessna 152/172 might be better in many cases - but I'm not sure if hte military operates any of those any more.

all in all, it seems to my untrained eye that it would be a good a/c to use for this role.

Well they better get more people cuz 20k isnt going to cut it lol

Originally posted by intelinside451
reply to post by jaycen420

 

20,000 troops is nothing really... That wouldn't even tame one city.

According to wiki there are already 1.1 million US service-men and women deployed in the USA - with 941,000 of them in the contiguous 48 states. US military deployments as at 31 Dec 2009

It seems pretty weird that 20k of them are considered such a threat by the CT's!!

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but everyone chose this one get over it