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Norway: Blast near prime minister's office in Oslo

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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Viking9019
www.dailymail.co.uk...

Is that a freemason outfit hes wearing?



Yes thats right, he was a Freemason, or Frimurer as we call it here in Norway... member of : Johannes- Lodge Søilene. Based in Oslo with 800 members..
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Hehe most of people here are hypocrites. A hatred toward Muslims is so huge. It's okay to bomb their children by NATO attacks, yeah let them pulverize to dust!
Statistics from interpol says that only 1% of terrorist attacks in europe are islamist extremists:
www.europol.europa.eu...
See the bottom of article.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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I'm glad I was one of the folks who didn't hop the "It was the CIA" or the "Muslims again" train. This is why you shouldn't jump to accusations, you only come out looking like a jackass in the end.

I do love how Fox News made accusations the attacks were most likely Middle Eastern related. Turns out it was a right wing Christian. So where's that thread about how Islam is big, bad, and evil?

Go fu*k yourselves, Fox and morons.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by SeventhSeal
I'm glad I was one of the folks who didn't hop the "It was the CIA" or the "Muslims again" train. This is why you shouldn't jump to accusations, you only come out looking like a jackass in the end.

I do love how Fox News made accusations the attacks were most likely Middle Eastern related. Turns out it was a right wing Christian. So where's that thread about how Islam is big, bad, and evil?

Go fu*k yourselves, Fox and morons.



I totally agree with you.. They try to spread that f"#%¤" propaganda all over the place.. WOLF, WOLF !



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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Heartfelt condolences to the innocent victims of terror in Norway and everywhere else in the world.


For what it's worth:

Supposed full Facebook page of suspect:
motivist.com...

Supposed writings of suspect:
motivist.com...


(The linked site looks like it amalgamates new and tries to employ some sort truth measurement)



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by piotrburz

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Originally posted by piotrburz
The norwegian commies get what they deserved.
12 years old children brainwashed to worship socialist ideas on this island.
It's a shame he didn't kill prime minister.
Norway is such a totalitarian country i hope they will awake. They can only afford their socialist utopia because they have lot of oil. When the oil deposit will be depleted, they will have great problems.
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Wow, unbelievable. You really are a piece of work arn't you. These "commies" you speak of were young innocent humans with their whole lives ahead of them


Yea whole life. They were brainwashed like in 1984.
Socialist doesn't deserve to live. They love to interrupt in other lives, telling you how to live. They have taken many liberties from people. Hell, norwegian children are no more under the care of parents. Read some stories, about parents whom kids were taken by social service workers., because they were "sad" in school. Parents even kidnap their kids from those "social facilities" and escape from norway.

Like a Oliver Wendell Holmes said[great person btw]
"Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man's nose begins"

After seeing your awkward response, I did some quick research on Norway.

You are correct.

Even though this is the wrong time to bring the issue up, you did point out another irony within this story. Norway is a Nordic Unitary Constitutional Monarchy, which has a ruling leader who imposes a very liberal manifesto.

That explains why they used the phrase 'Right-Wing Extremist' when describing this killer.

Second, no child ever deserves to die. Although you were correct about their government, please show some empathy when it comes to children and death.

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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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I've been watching CNN for 20 minutes and they've barely touched on the Norway situation. Maybe for like 5 seconds.

They just finished a 5 minute story on THIS:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f59e6f943d84.jpg[/atsimg]

And now they are talking about THIS:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/36b6d53a5a0e.jpg[/atsimg]

What is wrong with our country? Priorities are all messed up



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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How i can feel grief for them. How people can engage 12 years old kids in dirty politics. Because that's wasn't their own choice, at least for many of those kids.
Milions of people die in Africa, because of stupid protectionism of EU politics. These people deserve my grief, not some rich brainwashed people who loves power and ability to direct people's fate.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by piotrburz
How i can feel grief for them. How people can engage 12 years old kids in dirty politics. Because that's wasn't their own choice, at least for many of those kids.
Milions of people die in Africa, because of stupid protectionism of EU politics. These people deserve my grief, not some rich brainwashed people who loves power and ability to direct people's fate.

That is why this story is not being covered with 24/7 news reports. Until there is something more substantial to report, all the news media outlets are stuck on, "Right-Wing Extremist". They do not have anything else to report.

MSNBC, CNN, and Fox do have online coverage, but the live news is only talking about the event for five seconds.

Norway is slanting their news for some reason.

Its sick.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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I don't think Norway is using this to impose a political agenda at all. I do however think this was a punishment aimed at Norways recent activity. Breaking ranks with the Libyan NATO operation, Freezing funds to be used in the Greece bailout, Divestment from Israeli businesses and exclusion of Israeli banks in Norways huge pension funds and the kicker, Norways planned recognition of a Palestinian state. Those are all good reasons for some wanting to hurt Norway - big time!

I still keep coming back to the comments from the Prime Minister "No one will bomb us to silence, no one will shoot us to silence."

I get the distinct impression that comment is directed at others outside of Norway, rather than inwardly at it's people. I just get the impression he knows, or strongly suspects, this was not the work of some lone patsy gunman, but of an outside entity or state.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:36 AM
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This is just one insane sociopath desensitized by violent video games and violent TV. It doesn't effect most people this way. But if you lose your mind, then it will. Christian beliefs can't help insanity either, no belief system can.
I feel very sorry for all those people families now, as they will be devastated by this act of senseless violence resulting in their loved ones dying so suddenly.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy
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I don't think Norway is using this to impose a political agenda at all. I do however think this was a punishment aimed at Norways recent activity. Breaking ranks with the Libyan NATO operation, Freezing funds to be used in the Greece bailout, Divestment from Israeli businesses and exclusion of Israeli banks in Norways huge pension funds and the kicker, Norways planned recognition of a Palestinian state. Those are all good reasons for some wanting to hurt Norway - big time!

I still keep coming back to the comments from the Prime Minister "No one will bomb us to silence, no one will shoot us to silence."

I get the distinct impression that comment is directed at others outside of Norway, rather than inwardly at it's people. I just get the impression he knows, or strongly suspects, this was not the work of some lone patsy gunman, but of an outside entity or state.

Good point.

We will have to wait and see.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Just one thing i noticed a minute ago, which i find esoterically curious...

9/11 and 7/22 both sum up to 11 (9+1+1 and 7+2+2)

What's up with this 11


The other was on day 11 and other on year -11
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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on a norway forum the killer writes comments
www.document.no...



In fall 2009 Behring Breivik says that he has been working on a book titled 2083 for three years. It already runs into 1400 pages! He offers to send it to the blogger Fjordman.


as far as i can see is that the media try all not to tell the true (very much here in germany)

the media dont like this kind of killer-because the media take a part of the blame-i think



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
This is just one insane sociopath desensitized by violent video games and violent TV. It doesn't effect most people this way. But if you lose your mind, then it will. Christian beliefs can't help insanity either, no belief system can.
I feel very sorry for all those people families now, as they will be devastated by this act of senseless violence resulting in their loved ones dying so suddenly.


It's so simplistic to blame entertainment for this crime. I doubt he was encouraged or influenced by games (I know, he was a Call of Duty fan, that MUST'VE triggered him, right? Lulz) or movies.

The guy was influenced by political nonsense along with corrupt religious ideologies. The guy was an Islamophobe.

Hell, surprised he wasn't a Glenn Beck fan.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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I am just saying it's one variable of many, obviously he doesn't like the political system in Norway, as that Blog from one survivor stated, he was targeting young future politicians of a certain political party. This is what happens when intense anger mixes with insanity and psychopathy.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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Most of killed kids were immigrants. So yes he probably hated immigration politics of Norway.
In next 30 years Europe will be "immigrant state", there will be revolt, murders and oppression.
www.youtube.com...
That's what he might feared.

I don't have anything against immigrants, as long as they respect laws and traditions of country within they live.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by LLTKing



If he was a neo Nazi one would think he would have agreed with them.


It has emerged that the man at the centre of the attack is also a member of a Swedish Nazi forum which encourages attacks on government buildings.

The revelations were revealed by Swedish newspaper Expo who claim Anders Breivik is part of 'Nordisk' which has 22,000 members and focuses on political terrorism.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...


www.dailymail.co.uk...
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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Most of your post was just waffle.... I want YOUR response and your thoughts, not all your waffle.

Thanks.



Originally posted by Cythraul
Ok, here we go again blup blup. Still showing yourself incapable of civilized, respectful debate. That's a shame - you could have made your points in a more honourable manner.




I'm not a Samurai dude, I'm just a person... and a person who gets to the point and shoots from the hip.
I don't hide my argument and I don't bulk it up with absolute bollocks..

If you don't like it, don't reply to me and try not to talk ****...... if you talk crap and spout propaganda and nonsense, then people like me will call you out (as you have seen)







I value traditional values - you don't. That's fine, but don't insult me for having a different belief..



Explain what your traditional values are?

Go on...


I'm not insulting you for having a different belief or opinion.... I'm having a discussion with you to try and get inside your mind and see where you're coming from.








Do you really not see the governments and mainstream media of the western world demonising patriots AT EVERY TURN?!?! I'm amazed that someone can be so blind to the agenda when it's so clear..




Well again, warped view of reality.

I see on the "liberal, left leaning Muslim Appeasing" news channels.... people linking Islamic Terrorists to EVERY single event like this.... turns out that it wasn't this time.... but there IS STILL a way to get the word Muslim or Islam in there.

This guy was Anti-Muslim..... so as I said, That's what drove him to the edge obviously, still the Muslims fault.

You see what you want to see man...





The next stage in the Globalist agenda is to enslave through consumerism and a total abandonment of old/ancient values. .




Yep.... And then one religion? And then one sex.... and then we all get chipped and get carted off to camps and get our heads shaved and all that right?

Whatever...






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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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Breivik is a former member of a populist party, a freemason and a blogger who attacked multi-culturalism and Islam. He had also once belonged to the Progress Party, the second largest party in parliament, party officials said.




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