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Norway: Blast near prime minister's office in Oslo

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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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I wonder if the doomsday seed vault has anything to do with this.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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the chat protokolls of the killer are somewhere in the internet-but i dont get it-we will get the exact reason for that

but so far- no islam no hitler no church

other reasons

looks like so far the reason was

goverment offices journalism lobby



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:13 AM
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lol -


How you can you maintain such tosh during such a tragic time?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:16 AM
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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This is Google's cache of www.facebook.com... It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 22 Jul 2011 23:29:39 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime

next try-did that work??? right click download

the facebook page of the killer



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by Cythraul
I watched the BBC news report on this just now. The words and phrases that they kept landing on give their game away:

- "right wing"
- "guns"
- "fundamentalist Christian"

Having learnt how to decipher the NWO agenda over the last few years, and how the media plays games in aid of that agenda, my interpretation is this:

Whether planted or groomed, this native norseman was doing the State's bidding. Firstly, the NWO want to take guns out of the hands of ordinary Norwegians (and all people eventually) and put them into the hands of Norwegian police. This is what the BBC are talking about already - the need to arm the Norwegian police better. This is to further the police state and further enslave the public. Secondly, the NWO want to demonise ALL people who hold 'right-wing' views (in practice, anything that opposes their Marxist, totalitarian ideal), as we are the biggest ideological danger to our governments. Thirdly, this man is claimed to be a 'Fundamentalist Christian' - this actually serves two purposes - to show that Christians can be as violent and Fundamentalist as Muslims, thus exonerating Islam briefly, and also to demonise Christianity. We can see the Western world promoting atheism and demoting Christianity because, quite simply, we can not have a new world order with an old religion. Atheism is the new religion (of the consumer slave).

Basically, I believe it was essentially an inside job which kills three birds (and 91 poor Norwegians) with one stone. But we'll see how the story pans out...



You talk like "atheism" is evil... You now sound like a Christian extremist forcing your views onto others by demonising people who do not share your belief.

Hypprocrocy.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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Just read on Twitter that according to testimonies there was a 2nd gunman. The police are now looking for a 2nd gunman.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by Cythraul
-the need to arm the Norwegian police better. This is to further the police state and further enslave the public.



Yes, because if all the citizens have guns that makes everyone safer...

I don't understand your link between the police having guns and the public being enslaved, but then I a dumb member of the the new consumer religion (Atheism... Honestly the most stupid comment I've read on here)




Secondly, the NWO want to demonise ALL people who hold 'right-wing' views (in practice, anything that opposes their Marxist, totalitarian ideal), as we are the biggest ideological danger to our governments.



Nope... how are you the biggest danger?
You are exactly what the government want..... Social hierarchy... patriotism.

Rejecting social progress, liberalism...

If anything the Left is a bigger danger.





Thirdly, this man is claimed to be a 'Fundamentalist Christian' - this actually serves two purposes - to show that Christians can be as violent and Fundamentalist as Muslims, thus exonerating Islam briefly, and also to demonise Christianity.




Or maybe, as many people already know and realise.... ANY extremism is bad.
Christians are also capable of these kind of acts of terror.....


And anyway, the media campaign has been blaming Muslims for everything since 9/11.... in fact, ALL the talk as this event was unfolding, was of Muslim extremists and whether it was retaliation for the Cartoons that were reposted in a Norwegian paper, whether it was because of Norway's involvement in any of the middle eastern conflicts.

So don't give me that rubbish.

And they're saying that this CHRISTIAN Fundie guy is a member of an Anti-Muslim group.... so they're STILL mentioning Muslims even though they are not involved.

Somehow, in the subconscious of the masses.... there will be a message of "well he was Anti-Muslim, The Muslims just pushed him too far"

Your views are actually the opposite of reality.




We can see the Western world promoting atheism and demoting Christianity because, quite simply, we can not have a new world order with an old religion. Atheism is the new religion (of the consumer slave).
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Yes.... of course.

Nobody "Promotes" Atheism.... people are just beginning to think for themselves and are shedding the shackles of religion.

No longer will people be killed or ostracised by their communities for not believing.... so there is no longer fear of admitting that you don't believe in the fairy tales.

I don't see any promotion of Atheism by the western world....


NWO.... Blah blah......


If anyone is a slave, It's the religious morons.... mentally enslaved by invisible rulers who watch their every move and judge them all the time.

When you all grow up and move on, maybe humanity can live in peace at last?
edit on 23/7/11 by blupblup because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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I can't believe or accept that this is done by a single man.

2 shooters.

How many gun dealers?

How many people egged them on(this is a must)?

Who egged them on?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:28 AM
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Bad people can't be recognised on sight, and humans are always gonna
lose their way in their belief-systems.
Nobody can justify killing another because of a difference of opinions.
Granted, if that opinion endangers a majority, then action must be taken
to protect that majority, but killing that person isn't a way forward.

Shooting defenceless young people because a difference of opinion makes
no sense.
Blowing up a building to prove a point doesn't work either.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:33 AM
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Bad people can't be recognised on sight,


That's a lie if any.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:33 AM
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next try
www.nwgg.de...











posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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Kinda strange them saying he is a right-winger as he has killed only white people!!

Very strange indeed unless he thought those white kids were Muslims!!

Anyway, so no Mulims involved in this act of terrorism.... for a change!!



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:44 AM
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I'm reading that he had contacts with Pamela Geller(good friend of Geert Wilders).

Anyone still doubting why this guy pulled this # ?

He was told to.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by Zamini
I'm reading that he had contacts with Pamela Geller(good friend of Geert Wilders).

Anyone still doubting why this guy pulled this # ?

He was told to.


This shooting would not help the anti-Islamists at all, so I doubt it. On the other hand, it shows the dangers of political and religious extremism quite well. Extremism that is present in every major religion.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:50 AM
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This is an eye witness report in Swedish, about a Norwegian woman living close to Utöya who helped a lot of kids up from the water. She says that "Many, many drowned".
www.aftonbladet.se...



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:51 AM
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Maybe because he disaprove with the friendly approach some parties in the country have to the "foreign world". If he feels they are acting in a way that compromise what he think Norway should be, maybe he feels hes actions is justified (saving hes country?).......Isent that what happened in Oklahoma too?


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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
If it had been a Muslim would it have been a NWO plot?

In my opinion, yes! In fact, when this first happened and the rumours were that it was Muslim terrorists, my first thought was "false flag".

I like Islam least of all the major religions, but I mistrust governments more.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:54 AM
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That's a lie if any.


No... it's a point of view.
Defining 'bad' is something that is perceived as a negative, not a feature on
a person's face.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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91 dead as of now..

My heart and thoughts go out to my fellow Scandinavians who have lost someone they love during this tragedy.

This is not just a Norwegian tragedy, all the countries in Scandinavia has been moved.. I would not have seen this coming, even by a long shot.. They interrupted Tour De France yesterday during the transmission and brought the "news".

Still once again.. An absolute tragedy, I feel with anyone who has lost or been hurt during this meaningless act of violence.



The AUF leader Eskil Pedersen is on TV right now and he's saying that they will not budge or be threatened to silence.


Peace & love

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