Of The 22 World Conflicts Around The World, 21 are Muslim

reply to post by Schkeptick


Wow, did you just lump Christianity in with Hitler??? BTW, the crusades were carried on by the Catholic Church. Protestantism began, primarilly, through VICTIMS of the Catholic Church's tyranny of the day. BUT just to set the things straight:

(1) Muslims sided WITH the Nazis during WW2!

(2) Muslims STILL identify with the Nazis in that they OVERWHELMINGLY desire the elimination of all Jews!

Thanks for bringing absurdity to new levels on ATS...

reply to post by Durchlaucht


Yeah...victims should always be included in the list provocators...

reply to post by kindred


Thanks Kindred!

The reason this post has been so sustained is a microcosm of the history of religious zeolotism. Each side believes they have the high moral ground. Each side believes they are the more valid religion.

Only when men abandon religion and are guided by their own conscience and moral compass will we see an end to the Muslim, Christian rivaly.

Unfortunately that will be after armageddon and the meek will inherit the earth.

Originally posted by blockhead
I am surprised nobody has brought up the fact that the crusades were started to RECLAIM the lands from the muslims. After 450 years of brutal horrific jihad campaigns in the area, an equally brutal and horrific reaction took place. Now jihad is happening again except on a world wide scale vs a geographical "region".

It is true that for much of the last 1,300 years, Islam has been dominant while the West has not, a concept most people, unless they are student of Christian vs. Islamic history will find hard to believe.

For Instance, three quarters of the old Christian world are now Muslim countries. The Muslims besieged Vienna twice and occupied the Balkans for hundreds of years. Even in 1800, the UK & USA were paying protection money to Muslim Barbary pirates to stop them seizing ships and enslaving the crews.

It is only in the last 200 years that the West has been dominant. Why? It had the population explosion and the industrial revolution first.

But now the Arab Muslims are no longer under colonial rule, have had their own population explosion and have oil money.

They are now back to doing what they have always done. Spreading Islam.

Muhammad said

I was ordered to fight all men until they say the words "There is no god but Allah".

In the past they spread Islam by the sword.

Today the spread Islam by immigration and violence.

Hi guys,

I think they should shot the hell up. They just blowned VG in norway. - Ref: nyhederne.tv2.dk...:bombe-ryster-det-centrale-oslo.html?forside

Not long ago those people where burning our damn Danish flag and damn 1 out of 10 is accepting it: www.b.dk...

They are even burning YOUR flag: nyhederne-dyn.tv2.dk...:tegninger-uro-og-flagafbr%C3%A6nding.html - Why should they have a voice? - I say enslave them they are anyway already enslaved they cannot talk only bomb...

So I say to hell with it. Going bananas over a damn cartoon of the muhammed? - Who cares about muhammed anyway!!!

Thanks

reply to post by ollncasino


Best post ever here at ATS.

Reply to below post:

I think you are wrong. We are entitled to have our oppinions and you to yours. They are bringing there war to us in the north. They forget that we are wikings and allied with the greatest nation of them all USA. And we will sooner or later destroy them to take there oil, water or whatever the excuse will be. And I am starting to like that thought.

Thanks,

This is a hate mongering thread if I ever saw one.
Just because a country has Muslims, doesnt mean the muslism are the source of those countries. Most of those countries have Christianity listed first.
We have muslims in the US, but it doesnt mean that the US is a Muslim led country.

I smell a big, fat ugly troll.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
Just because a country has Muslims, doesnt mean the muslism are the source of those countries.

Muslim Population Percentages

• Below 2%

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

• 2 to 5%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

• 5 to 10%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.

• 10 to 20%

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.

• 20 to 40%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.

• 40 to 60%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare.

• 60 to 80%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon against infidels.

• Above 80%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim

• 100%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word. Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

reply to post by ollncasino


You my man is saying the stuff in a very very nice way. It is the truth and nothing but the truth. This has nothing to do with rasisicm or anything just the so simple and genial truth.

Thanks

reply to post by RealAmericanPatriot


German Authorities close Mosque which Promoted Holy War against the West

Christoph Ahlhaus, Hamburg’s secretary of the interior, announced Monday:

“Today we closed the Taiba mosque because young men were being turned into religious fanatics there. Behind the scenes, a supposed cultural organization shamelessly used the freedoms of our democratic rule of law to promote holy war. Hamburg cannot become a cradle for Islamists capable of violence.”

As long ago as January 1999, the Naqshbandi Sufi leader Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani declared in a State Department Open Forum that Islamic supremacists controlled most mosques in America.

Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky confirmed in 2005, that 80% of the mosques in the USA “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.”

frontpagemag.com...

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by CountDrac

 

Doesn't say much about the Abrahamic religions does it?
Which coincidentally is including the Christians and the Jews
The remainder of the worlds conflicts most likely involve them some how.

Religion messed us up more than any single thing that might befall humanity.
I mean besides greed and land grabs.

Hi, although I get your point, it suggests that because a country is predominantly or 'officially' aligned with this religion or that, then religion was the reason for war/death. This is usually posturing with religion on the flag but means nothing as to the real reason for the aggression. But.... if you want to follow that approach then Atheism (official non religion of Communism) has just as much to answer for doesn't it?

Ban religion, end war. Simple solution for simple people, living by fairy tales written before man understood what kept the moon in the air.

Lock down the borders and do some SERIOUS house cleaning , the ones that cannot get along ship them back . No ifs ands or buts . The free ride is over . If they do the crime , send them back to do the time . Segregating the bad seeds from the rest is not racism .

Where I live the Muslims in the city wanted to have their own private walled section of the city , ( segregation ) their idea . The rest of the population said no , being an open society .

Question then , could they not have all gotten together and went back to where they came from to do the segregation they so wanted ? YES Did they ? NO
So then who was really being racist ?

No different with the radical French in Quebec Canada , they wanted their own status as a country with tons of hand outs after they separated .

I do not work in a fancy high paying job and we have a over 20 yr old from Ghana that works on our crew . he complains he is so hard done by here . All I can think is , how hard would it really be back in Ghana for you picking cocoa beans there compared to here in Canada ? Quit your crying and suck it up princess , the rest of us from other countries can do the same job your expected to do . Because if you don't like it then go back .

Here is the crap that starts it all , forum.calgarypuck.com...

Originally posted by something wicked

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by CountDrac

 

Doesn't say much about the Abrahamic religions does it?
Which coincidentally is including the Christians and the Jews
The remainder of the worlds conflicts most likely involve them some how.

Religion messed us up more than any single thing that might befall humanity.
I mean besides greed and land grabs.

Hi, although I get your point, it suggests that because a country is predominantly or 'officially' aligned with this religion or that, then religion was the reason for war/death. This is usually posturing with religion on the flag but means nothing as to the real reason for the aggression. But.... if you want to follow that approach then Atheism (official non religion of Communism) has just as much to answer for doesn't it?

I am getting everything and with you up until Atheism is the official non religion of Communism. I don't think that's true. It is an assumption. Communism to me means everybody shares everything. End of description.

Originally posted by RoguePhilosopher
Mad
Useless
Sadistic
Loopy
Inbred
Moronic
Scum

Help save the planet. Exterminate all M's.

And someone gave that a star?

count is counting... but i guess it doesn't count oh well..

Originally posted by Raelsatu
Very interesting. I'll wait for the Islam apologist to swoop in and tell us that Muslims are the most peaceful of religious people, and that it's the minorities of aforementioned countries that are instigating the conflicts....

Seriously though

Why would there need to be an "Islam apologist"? This could be interpreted as the world simply hating Muslims. If

I were to say 80% of the people in Arkansas who are arrested are in wheelchairs, would you assume that people in wheelchairs are more criminally-minded or would you wonder if they simply dislike handicapped people?

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
reply to post by CountDrac

 

They engage in Jihad in an effort to spread Islam.

Jihad is a process not a response.

The sooner people realize that the Jihad is real, the better. We can no longer afford to retreat from this civilizational threat to ALL non-muslims across the globe. The Jihad for Planet Earth must stop.

Who is they?

Religion has been used for aggressive purposes since the begining of time.

With such a sweeping and non-specific "they" being employed, could not the frequency in which US politicians invoke "God" and Christianity lead the rest of the world to view our military conquests as crusades?

"They" ?

9/11 Hate-Crime Victim Seeks To Save His Attacker

Just 10 days after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Rais Bhuiyan was working at a gas station in Dallas when he was shot in the face by a man named Mark Stroman.

Stroman was on a shooting spree, targeting people who appeared to be Muslim or of Middle Eastern descent. Stroman is due to be executed July 20; Bhuiyan, the only survivor of the attacks, is fighting to save his life.

....

"According to my faith in Islam, there is no hate, no killing. It doesn't allow anything like that," says Bhuiyan. "Yes, Mark Stroman did a horrible thing, and he brought a lot of pain and disaster, sufferings in my life. But in return I never hated him."

Bhuiyan has created a website called World Without Hate to educate others about hate crimes as a means of preventing them. He's also working with Amnesty International and Stroman's defense attorney, who has filed several appeals on Stroman's death sentence.

"I strongly believe executing him is not a solution. We will just simply lose a human life without dealing with the root cause, which is hate crime," Bhuiyan says. "In Islam it says that saving one human life is the same as saving the entire mankind. Since I forgave him, all those principles encouraged me to go even further, and stop his execution and save another human life."

www.npr.org...

As is proved hourly here on ATS, hate and intolerance has no specific religion, but those that espouse it often use religious rhetoric to justify their speech and actions.

Same as it ever was.

What I don't get is how people can say 9/11 was an inside job, and then just shift all the blame to Muslims. i would be infuriated if was being accused of crimes and they believe they should fight back. And they do unlike cowardly Americans who just sit and claim the gov is corrupt and NWO this and Illuminati that. But they don't have the courage to do anything about it.

Originally posted by LordD
What I don't get is how people can say 9/11 was an inside job, and then just shift all the blame to Muslims. i would be infuriated if was being accused of crimes and they believe they should fight back. And they do unlike cowardly Americans who just sit and claim the gov is corrupt and NWO this and Illuminati that. But they don't have the courage to do anything about it.

Call them "arm-chair revolutionaries" or "cyber revolutionaries" or just good 'ol BS artists.

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