UFOs or Space Junk Near the Surface of the Moon?

It looks like the objects pop into view above the surface and fall, moving somewhat laterally across. I used a magnifying glass and watched as the object turned a darker grey...very, very interesting whatever it is.

How would you determine the height of the objects above the surface when they first come into view?

Good find OP!

These objects are absolutely massive, whatever they are, which leads me to say -

Definitely NOT manmade!

the moon is a UFO base

reply to post by Pimander

The main reason I suspect we might have something is that if they are droplets, not one is even slightly visible further away from the moons surface. Even a rudimentary knowledge of how a water droplet refracts light would indicate that some droplets from further outside the lunar disk in our view would be visible. The droplets further from the disk would be less visible but some would still visible. There is a chance that none appeared anywhere else on the lens I guess but...

The droplets (if that's what they are) wouldn't necessarily refract light at a greater distance from the Moon's brightness. Particularly if they were condensation. The increase in brightness is explained by proximity to the Moon and their apparent diminution of brightness would then be an outcome of the refraction being overwhelmed by the CCD being saturated with light. The lack of detail in the Lunar surface indicates the CCD is over-saturated (forgive the terminology).

The motion of the droplets would then be open to questions of cause. What could cause their apparent motion? From Arby's posts, this could be explained by capillary action under conditions such as a breeze and humidity.

Perhaps, the uploader could provide location details so we can understand the weather conditions on the evening. If he already has, I apologise for not paying more attention to the posts.

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Pimander

 

The main reason I suspect we might have something is that if they are droplets, not one is even slightly visible further away from the moons surface. Even a rudimentary knowledge of how a water droplet refracts light would indicate that some droplets from further outside the lunar disk in our view would be visible. The droplets further from the disk would be less visible but some would still visible. There is a chance that none appeared anywhere else on the lens I guess but...

The droplets (if that's what they are) wouldn't necessarily refract light at a greater distance from the Moon's brightness. Particularly if they were condensation. The increase in brightness is explained by proximity to the Moon and their apparent diminution of brightness would then be an outcome of the refraction being overwhelmed by the CCD being saturated with light. The lack of detail in the Lunar surface indicates the CCD is over-saturated (forgive the terminology).

The motion of the droplets would then be open to questions of cause. What could cause their apparent motion? From Arby's posts, this could be explained by capillary action under conditions such as a breeze and humidity.

Perhaps, the uploader could provide location details so we can understand the weather conditions on the evening. If he already has, I apologise for not paying more attention to the posts.

The "droplets" come into view because of close proximity to the surface. check
They drift from right to left at an angle (what, 30 deg. or so?) check
Because of a breeze blowing on the lens?

Is that your argument?

Damn, this video seemed so convincing in the beginning. I'm open for UFO's nowadays in general, but I think Arbitrageur is on the right track.

Ignore the righthand video and focus to the one on the left side. When an anomaly appears, move your mouse cursor over it. It stays stationary, they all do, you can even pinpoint their locations from the lens.

the video in right is "object tracked", and therefore not a good reference.

Looks like they come over the horizon of the moon, came out of the darkness and disappeared into the light, maybe closer to the surface? maybe they landed and THAT'S why they disappeared? also, do space rocks come in pairs of 2? are they all shaped the same also? and do they also always fly symmetrically and disappear virtually along the same line of longitude? (if the moon had long/lat)

very interesting.. someone, somewhere, knows something that no one else knows. I can feel it


oh, and those "water droplets".. are definitely water droplets lol not ufo's

reply to post by Pilot

Because of a breeze blowing on the lens?

Is that your argument?

For now, yes.

Feel free to rebut as the idea of UFOs is more appealing.

reply to post by Kandinsky


I can't. I don't have a clue what it is.
Droplets on the lens seems a little far-fetched because of the movement of the objects.

Originally posted by Pilot
reply to post by Kandinsky

 

I can't. I don't have a clue what it is.

Droplets on the lens seems a little far-fetched because of the movement of the objects.

sorry, they are in fact stationary. As I mentioned few minutes ago, the right side video is object tracked.

Originally posted by ADEzor

Originally posted by Pilot
reply to post by Kandinsky

 

I can't. I don't have a clue what it is.

Droplets on the lens seems a little far-fetched because of the movement of the objects.

sorry, they are in fact stationary. As I mentioned few minutes ago, the right side video is object tracked.

Would you mind explaining "object tracked".

If I hold my cursor over a YouTube video, it plays merrily along, how did you make anything stop with a cursor??
Let me see if I understand you correctly: The "droplets" are stationary and the appearance of movement is just the moon? drifing along till it illumines the droplets on the lens and sort of swallows them? Yeah?

reply to post by ADEzor
Unless it's my awful resolution and monitor, the objects in either view don't appear stationary.

We agree that Arby's explanation is the more probable; Can you add anything more to make it conclusive?

reply to post by Cross8712


I'm glad someone else has piped up about their observations.. It's not something I'd ordinarily mention, but seeing as this thread and the video talks about exactly hat I have seen on numerous occasions, it seemed like a prime time to mention it.

I wonder if we'll all be out there in our gardens the next time the moon is visible.

I've recently obtained a full spectrum camera (need a tripod though) and I think it would be interesting to see what I can capture with it. Probably not a lot seeing as i don't have a scope or anything but it'll be worth a try..

Bit too cloudy this evening here...

Originally posted by Pilot

Originally posted by ADEzor

Originally posted by Pilot
reply to post by Kandinsky

 

I can't. I don't have a clue what it is.

Droplets on the lens seems a little far-fetched because of the movement of the objects.

sorry, they are in fact stationary. As I mentioned few minutes ago, the right side video is object tracked.

Would you mind explaining "object tracked". I don't understand your point. A thorough explanation is necessary for those of us not familiar with telescopes & video.

I don't know if this video embedding works... here's a direct link though www.youtube.com...

In this particular video, the camera follows/crops the edges of the video so that the moon stays stationary. object tracking is a pretty standard tool for editing, and it's often useful for making videos clearer, in this case though, it ruins it.

I almost started to believe in UFO's due to this video, but I guess I still have to keep searching and have an open mind, but this video doesn't convince me one bit.

The scale of these objects are insane if you take the scale into account. I have quite a nice setup telescope i have observed the moon loads and never seen anything like that surely if its on an orbit around the moon it should circle back around unless it picked up speed and slingshot off in another direction. Im going to be out even more to see if i can find anything. Will post straight here if i do see anything.

reply to post by ADEzor


Sorry ADEzor, I edited my last post to you. Thanks for the vid explaining object tracking.

Also, I should add, that i don't think the person who made the original video tried to make a hoax or anything. He just wanted to make the anomalies clearer.

I really want to see an eloquent video about UFO's.

Originally posted by yakuzakid
These objects are absolutely massive, whatever they are, which leads me to say -

Definitely NOT manmade!

Yes, they would be absolutely massive, which leads me to believe they are actually very close to the camera, and not the moon, which would support the water droplet scenario. Not to say it's correct, but seems the most likely explanation.

reply to post by Pilot


no problem. If i had time i would try to make and upload a video of what i meant by my earlier post. I'd advice just to ignore the edited(cropped to make the moon "stay still", also known as object/camera tracking) & zoomed video on the right and for everyone to just examine the original video at the left.

Whenever there's an anomaly you can, for example, put a piece of tape to mark it's location as the moon slowly moves around in the video. You will see that all the anomalies are static compared to the "screen".

Originally posted by OMsk3ptic

Originally posted by yakuzakid
These objects are absolutely massive, whatever they are, which leads me to say -

Definitely NOT manmade!

Yes, they would be absolutely massive, which leads me to believe they are actually very close to the camera, and not the moon, which would support the water droplet scenario. Not to say it's correct, but seems the most likely explanation.

i did some quick (and most likely inaccurate) math and compared the moon 3,476 kilometer diameter to the dot number 5.

The anomalies are about 20 kilometers wide... that would mean a convoy of 285 Boeing 747's or 52 Empire state buidings on top of each other.