UK Gets First "Sharia Controlled Zone".

reply to post by listerofsmeg

if it were to happen then violent and racist crimes would likely skyrocket.

And that's why I'm happy with the direction the world is moving. Honestly, I do not trust the West without alcohol. Too much of a colonialist mindset. Go China!

Joined just for this story!

If stuff like this does not get sorted out very soon then people like me will be very busy in A and E units across the land.

We are busy enough with brainless morons on a weekend...

This country just gets dumber and dumber and more animalistic by the day

reply to post by Zamini

It's already destroying so many lives while keeping another so many intoxicated, but lets do everything but question it.

Certainly not in this thread as that's not what it's about.
Don't know how we managed to derail it so much?

Start a thread about alcohol - it's pro's and cons etc, it's prohibition, associated health risks etc and I'd gladly contribute but I think I've helped take this thread far enough off course.

reply to post by Freeborn

Don' knowt how we managed to derail it so much?

OP derailed it sufficiently by using sketchy sources.

Start a thread about alcohol - it's pro's and cons etc, it's prohibition, associated health risks etc and I'd gladly contribute but I think I've helped take this thread far enough off course.

Yes, no thank you. You're a big boy, you can research for yourself. And if your memory allows you, think back

reply to post by Zamini


i can't really say there is a country or government i feel good about.
they all have self interest in mind.
go human rights.

If anybody wants Sharia law enforced anywhere in Britain it will have to be after my dead body has been disposed of. I will fight the Muslims AND the government to to stop this happening.

reply to post by listerofsmeg

i can't really say there is a country or government i feel good about.
they all have self interest in mind.

Neither can I, however, I understand that eventually the people will take over. So lets get all these totalitarian regimes over with is my line of thought. Since people choose to feel. Just takes a while, because people have to experience that they are all HUMAN, regardless of skin color etc. This might happen when I'm not around anymore in a couple hundred years, but I'm at peace with that.

go human rights.

Go human rights.

reply to post by yellowbeard


You should band together with the Muslims.

You have the government creating these troubles for you while they have their extremists creating the horrible image of them. This is the last thing your government or their extremists would want. This is how you will fight those people(extremists and traitors in government) ruining nations effectively; by getting along with your fellow humans.

Originally posted by yellowbeard
If anybody wants Sharia law enforced anywhere in Britain it will have to be after my dead body has been disposed of. I will fight the Muslims AND the government to to stop this happening.

Ouuu, you talk a good game.

Truth is Brits are no more courageous than the Yank sheeple. They've all turned into wimps when it comes to "hitting the streets", and that is where battles with tyrants are fought.

reply to post by Zamini


yes but we mustnt allow religous beleifs to hinder human right.
booze, sex and drugs should stay until the scientists say otherwise, not a holy book.

it takes nothing for a good man to do good things and a bad man to do bad things.
it takes religion for a good man to do bad things.

reply to post by listerofsmeg


I'm not talking in favor of holy books or scientists, I'm here on behalf of life.

Once again, your civilization would CRUMBLE without ethanol. Now you can have all the discussions you want with me, disagree as fiercely as you want to, it does not change that FACT. And not being able to function without an intoxicating substance is known as ADDICTION.

reply to post by Zamini


so you beleive that everyone who enjoys a drink is an addict.
im all for a drink on th weekend with mates and pull some birds but you wont find me or anyone i know getting hammered in a work place.
your view seems to be one of assumption and ignorance.
there is a lot of binge drinking in uk but there are bigger threats out there. it is a human right to get wasted and love it.
ps scientists are the ones you should favour because the dont assume to know it all, the search for the answers.

Originally posted by romanmel


Ouuu, you talk a good game.

Truth is Brits are no more courageous than the Yank sheeple. They've all turned into wimps when it comes to "hitting the streets", and that is where battles with tyrants are fought.

You think ? As a former motorcycle club member (1%er) I can assure you I'm capable of more than talking the game

I took part in the poll tax "protests" and have served time for my beliefs, How about you ?

Some of us have lived outside of the internet world.

Originally posted by Samuelis
all those replies to me...

1st: its not my website, I was showing how your making yourselves look.

From my prospective they look like a bunch of concerned citizens with a few exceptions.

Originally posted by Samuelis
2nd: This isn't freedom of speech, its ignorance. ATS has a duty to monitor it's users. What is ATS's slogan again?

I belive being able to say what ever you want is freedom of speech. Ignorance is denying that freedom. As for the slogan its deny ignorance, not suprising you had to ask.

Originally posted by Samuelis
3rd: If i was to highlight all of the racial attacks in this thread i would go through a pack of highlighters.

And to be fair if I was to highlight every time you faslely accused someone of being racist in this thread I would probably go threw two packs.

Originally posted by Samuelis
4th: words like "idiot Muslims" and go home to your own country are such huge generalizations. and can only be categorized as racism.

Yes the way you are using them now is, however put back in to their original context no longer racism neat how that works out.

Originally posted by Samuelis

5th: Why did the OP listen to them? pansy much? I wouldn't put my beer down if a meteor hit me.

Well when you face off 8 people to keep you unopened beer you let us know. ps pic's or it didnt happen.

Originally posted by Samuelis
6th: Drinking in public places has been illegal in most western countries for years now. Maybe there is a reason why they didnt want you drinking near their house? but no, we will attack them instead?

First of all learn to read op's post. Second it has not been illegal in most western countries it is however illegal to have the label (sets a bad example for the kiddies) showing or to be drunk in public (also sets a bad example for the kiddies) but not to drink.

Originally posted by Samuelis
7th: There is a very intense smear of the Muslim culture taking place, and this is a direct result of that. And buying into the hype will only show how easily manipulated you are.

This sounds like a quote out of a propaganda hand book? Any one buying into your propaganda would have to be easy to manipulate. This thread has little to do with culture it has to do with a group trying to force their beliefs on others as law In a country that has its own laws.

Originally posted by Samuelis
8th: Maybe they would go home if it permitted, do you think they like living with you?

I am american so this q dosnt really matter to me. But If you read you history then yes they have had their eye this region in the past and dont see why they would still not be interested, It is after all a nice looking place. Its ovbious they dont like living with people who dont have to follow their relgious laws but I dont see them leaving and if history shows anything its that they will eventually take the land if you let them just like anyother people.

Originally posted by Samuelis

9th: We all came from the same place..

Are you serious? Would you care to elaberate? You seem to be claiming to know things that the brightest scientists dont. And that no religion has proof of.

Originally posted by Samuelis
10th: Why are we so passionate about a few extremists that say they will impose a no drinking law? And why would we take this seriously? People hear the word extremist and forget to actually understand what the word extremist implies.

Well that would be because if you give a extremist or fundementlist an inch they will take a mile (or a commercial airliner) just like any other group come on a fifth grader could tell you that.

Originally posted by Samuelis
So grow up and stop being racist bigot's and discuss this with a little more tact and thought.

I wish you would heed you own advice here.

Originally posted by Samuelis
and show some respect to the people who gave their lives so you could have this freedom.

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I agree respect should be given to thoes that gave their lifes for freedom and by sugesting these fine people let someone come in and take away those freedoms you sir are showing those brave men and or women no respect at all( hope you relize that). In closing seeing how they did not have a emote with a smilie taking a dump on a picture of your post this one will have to do ..

reply to post by listerofsmeg

so you beleive that everyone who enjoys a drink is an addict.

No I don't, that's what you want to read because you WANT to disagree with me. Go sort yourself out please.

The FACT remains, that if that ethanol was not there, society would crumble. People need to get away...from themselves. So horrible.

reply to post by Zamini


Chocolate is addictive, music is addictive, coffee is addictive, sugar is addictive, sex is addictive, PC games are addictive... Addiction is not bad, especialy psychological, not physical addiction. Addiction to something which damages you is bad. Alcohol in moderate amounts (drinking a few beers of wine once a week) is not harmful, it is actually healthy.

Only alcohol abuse is bad. So fight alcohol abuse, not beer and wine, because that would damage even the moderate drinkers. Prohibition is not the solution, that was proven in practice. The same with marijuana, the damages, direct and indirect, caused by cannabis prohibition far surpass any damages legal cannabis would do.

Lets not try to outlaw personal freedoms unless its certain the pros will far outweight the cons of such legislation. Which is not the case with light drug prohibition at all.

seriously, to hell with this crap! its our country, call me racist if you want, but they seem to be the racist ones, if you live here in the UK, abide by our laws and customs or go back to where you came from and practise your beliefs there. I cannot believe you had to put down your beer just cause of them, THATS racism against a host population. Racism in all its forms is disgraecful

reply to post by Zamini


People have been drinking alcohol for thousands of years, I don't think your moral crusade will have much effect on peoples consumption of alcohol. Anyway this is not the point of the thread.

Unfortunately Im not sure what the point of the thread is, as the title is very miss leading. There are no "sharia controlled zones" in the UK. If there a young men bullying another under the guise of religious morality then of course that is wrong and should be dealt with by the laws of the land, not an invented law imposed by religious gangsters.

I see a lot of shouting from people but not much action. When I say action I dont mean violence, but contacting MP's , contacting the police to express concerns, contacting the people at the mosques to express your grievance.

This thread is based on a personal account and a dodgy tabloid sensationalist article, yet is being seen as the take over of England by sharia law, which is complete bollocks.

Sounds to me like a few hundred brits should emerge in the area about every other weekend for pub crawls in the area...carry your beers around and be a proud western citizen...let the monkeys learn a message...adapt or leave...there will be no changing of laws there
Oh, and make sure its 1/1 male/female ratio so they understand..women are equal

Originally posted by romanmel

Originally posted by yellowbeard
If anybody wants Sharia law enforced anywhere in Britain it will have to be after my dead body has been disposed of. I will fight the Muslims AND the government to to stop this happening.

Ouuu, you talk a good game.

Truth is Brits are no more courageous than the Yank sheeple. They've all turned into wimps when it comes to "hitting the streets", and that is where battles with tyrants are fought.

Whatever side of the fence you sit on in this doesn't really matter. Fact is Sharia controlled areas aren't going to happen, because rightly or wrongly we know where they all live in their self imposed ghettos and they will end up run into the sea.