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Originally posted by shansen
Even being a thoroughly reader of ATS, this is my first post here.
Reading this thread I can't stop myself to underline a pretty disturbing thing: human species is not better now than it was almost a thousand years ago; we are still prepared to kill each other in the name of religion and we are SO convinced that our beliefs are the righteous ones and others' are just a bunch of crap!
Is it so important the fact that Jesus Christ walked on water by himself or not? Or that the Islam God is called Allah and the Christian God is called, well, God? We are so ready to burn the others just because they read a different book? Common, this is stupid...
Islam kills people but also Christians kills people, is that simple, and this is a truth not from few years ago but from the day when the religions were born. We are so damn ready to look at the neighbors without looking in the mirror first, and this is the real danger, for all of us.
Falls of Christ's Church? You can't be serious, dude... the real Church - whatever that one is - lies in the mind and heart of the believers, not in a building or physical symbols and if we're cannot accept the fact that different peoples have different beliefs, we're ALL screwed by a long shot.
God - and by that I mean GOD, the unique one - is powerful enough to know what we keep in our heart and I'm sure He does not agree with the fact that we became more and more intolerant to other people just because they call Him Jehovah, Buddha or Allah.
It is not the religion who make people good or bad, the society we live in does this.
I'm living in a country which is one of the most free country from the religion point of view; we have all churches here. The Christians have Muslim friends, the Muslims have Hindu friends, we salute each other, we talk to each other, NEVER been a religious controversy here, NEVER. There wasn't any "ritual" or "honor" killing here, NEVER. There wasn't any Muslim cursed or attacked by Christians, NEVER. There are halal stores and Christians buy stuff from there; our kids are playing together, no matter their religion. In the offices we have Muslim people and when they have to pray, everyone respects that.
In few words, nobody is trying to enforce his beliefs to anybody; we respect each other, and I think this is the way it should be.
We should stop listen so much to the media and governments and try to listen to our true heart instead.
Falls of Christ's Church? No, dude, the real danger is the fall of humanity, the fall of reason, the fall of common sense over a bunch of symbols and books.
My 2 cents...edit on 11-7-2011 by shansen because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by KeeperOfGenisis
Originally posted by shansen
Even being a thoroughly reader of ATS, this is my first post here.
Reading this thread I can't stop myself to underline a pretty disturbing thing: human species is not better now than it was almost a thousand years ago; we are still prepared to kill each other in the name of religion and we are SO convinced that our beliefs are the righteous ones and others' are just a bunch of crap!
Is it so important the fact that Jesus Christ walked on water by himself or not? Or that the Islam God is called Allah and the Christian God is called, well, God? We are so ready to burn the others just because they read a different book? Common, this is stupid...
Islam kills people but also Christians kills people, is that simple, and this is a truth not from few years ago but from the day when the religions were born. We are so damn ready to look at the neighbors without looking in the mirror first, and this is the real danger, for all of us.
Falls of Christ's Church? You can't be serious, dude... the real Church - whatever that one is - lies in the mind and heart of the believers, not in a building or physical symbols and if we're cannot accept the fact that different peoples have different beliefs, we're ALL screwed by a long shot.
God - and by that I mean GOD, the unique one - is powerful enough to know what we keep in our heart and I'm sure He does not agree with the fact that we became more and more intolerant to other people just because they call Him Jehovah, Buddha or Allah.
It is not the religion who make people good or bad, the society we live in does this.
I'm living in a country which is one of the most free country from the religion point of view; we have all churches here. The Christians have Muslim friends, the Muslims have Hindu friends, we salute each other, we talk to each other, NEVER been a religious controversy here, NEVER. There wasn't any "ritual" or "honor" killing here, NEVER. There wasn't any Muslim cursed or attacked by Christians, NEVER. There are halal stores and Christians buy stuff from there; our kids are playing together, no matter their religion. In the offices we have Muslim people and when they have to pray, everyone respects that.
In few words, nobody is trying to enforce his beliefs to anybody; we respect each other, and I think this is the way it should be.
We should stop listen so much to the media and governments and try to listen to our true heart instead.
Falls of Christ's Church? No, dude, the real danger is the fall of humanity, the fall of reason, the fall of common sense over a bunch of symbols and books.
My 2 cents...edit on 11-7-2011 by shansen because: (no reason given)
Welcome mate and brilliantly said
Originally posted by tichan55
Video: Richard Dawkins "Islam Is One Of The Great Evils In The World"
FaithFreedom.org 11 July 2011
By Jonathan Harrell
Richard Dawkins is one of the most prominent author and rational thinker.
Richard makes point like no other, he is also the founder of RDF and Out Campaign. Richard has left many Muslims to convert and leave their Islamic faith.
Dawkins has participated in many debates. He also mention Faith Freedom International in one of his best books "God Delusion.”
His Take On Islam
Islam deserves criticism on account of the logical consequences of its dogma, namely, that the murder of fellow human beings is to be rewarded with sensual pleasure in a hedonistic ‘Paradise’- a concept born in the fantasies of an Arab rebel some fourteen centuries ago. The religion of Mohammed is a dangerous system when the teachings and example of the ‘prophet’ are believed and followed.
Originally posted by conspir007
Ok first off, all of you have great comments....here is the thing though, I truly do believe that we are in fact headed for a ONE WORLD FAITH. Here is why I believe in it. Its almost, or its just as similar as to how the higher powers want to have a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. I mean it is true, all these religions and ideas just cause pain, suffering, genocides, murder, I mean to the higher powers, it is going to be a whole lot easier for them to control, if they can just have a ONE WORLD FAITH, or for short OWF. Just as it will be easier for them to rule, if they can have a OWG or ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. I mean the religion would honestly be, Jewish I think. Just for the matter that this person know as "Christ" was a Jew, so it would only make sense to make the religion for the entire world "Jew" right? I'd think so. All in all, I don't think this idea is to far off. If anything having a OWF would definitely involve some population control, I mean telling people to believe in one thing and that you can't have the freedom to have your own beliefs? There is gonna be some blood shed. But isn't that what the governments would want too? I mean we are starting to become to much for this planet if you think about it, so having a OWF would definitely work in the governments best interest...now for us, I foresee a revolt. Who is with me? Haha I am off on Tues, and Wed I can only revolt on those days.
Revealed: The secret report that shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU
The paper is aged and fragile, the typewritten letters slowly fading. But US Military Intelligence report EW-Pa 128 is as chilling now as the day it was written in November 1944.
The document, also known as the Red House Report, is a detailed account of a secret meeting at the Maison Rouge Hotel in Strasbourg on August 10, 1944. There, Nazi officials ordered an elite group of German industrialists to plan for Germany's post-war recovery, prepare for the Nazis' return to power and work for a 'strong German empire'. In other words: the Fourth Reich.
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by sdebunker
The EU was built on the Nazi formation of it. And the fourth reicht is the platform. Its not socialism, or at least its a corruption of what truly is social democracy, which is freedom and equality.
www.dailymail.co.uk...
Revealed: The secret report that shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU
The paper is aged and fragile, the typewritten letters slowly fading. But US Military Intelligence report EW-Pa 128 is as chilling now as the day it was written in November 1944.
The document, also known as the Red House Report, is a detailed account of a secret meeting at the Maison Rouge Hotel in Strasbourg on August 10, 1944. There, Nazi officials ordered an elite group of German industrialists to plan for Germany's post-war recovery, prepare for the Nazis' return to power and work for a 'strong German empire'. In other words: the Fourth Reich.
www.suite101.com...
Did the Nazis Create the European Union?
Scandal in Europe over NATO Officers Wearing Nazi Symbols in
In addition is it any coincidence that the Pope is an ex Nazi, Prince Charles, Prince Bernhard of Holland, NASA, the Cia, The Rockefellers famous connections, the Bush family, the Trilaterial commision, the Bidlenberg Group, the Muslim Brotherhood, the list goes on, and on, and on...............
So the Nazi's are planning to bring in another religion. NOT ON MY WATCH!