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The FALL of CHRIST'S CHURCH has begun, ONE WORLD FAITH is almost here.

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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by AprilSky



So the bible itself was not written until nearly four hundred years after Christ's supposed death and we all know it has had many rewrites since then but still there are people who will try and claim it is absolute truth! As if the ELITE are somehow totally incapable of lying and manipulating the masses, these people behave like they think the bible arrived by facsimile from Heaven.


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Ive seen a bible that was written 100 years ago nothing has changed, and about the bible being written the time it was 400 years after his death, who cares and you need to get off the Elite PTB train because no one knows what it was like 2000 years ago



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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We should all go back to being Pagan..

I hate the christian religion. and that religion die'ing would be a good thing imo



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by AprilSky

Originally posted by JR MacBeth
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Again, I respect the fact that you have invested a lot in this idea, but regardless of where I think the evidence lies when it comes to aliens, I continue to think that if one of my kids in college came to me and told me all about your elaborate Alien Harvest, I would probably ask them to slow down, and really wonder why the elite have invested so much in cultivating this mindset, that leads to all sorts of things.

Including the weaving together of the mysteries of our past, using the esoteric as a jumping off point. Which is basically Da Vinci Code, morphing into something more encompassing. But true? Not necessarily. And considering our master's investment in aliens, and clear "support" dare I say, for the kind of thing you are spreading, I would say that at a minimum, caution is in order.

So, in spite of seeing many problems with your premise, perhaps I should at least ask if there is any "scientific" evidence, of any kind, that even remotely supports the idea that aliens need human rh-negative females, in order to produce an elixir that somehow imparts immortality to these aliens? I'd like to see it, as I'm sure others reading this thread would too.

And while we're at it, maybe we could come up with a reason why it takes so long for such an inefficient "harvest" to begin with?

*snip*



Thank you for your polite reply and I am pleased you at least get what I am saying the basic premise of it.

Basically it goes like this ... I have been haunted by night visions and meetings with these beings for years and so much so I started to just tell it on the internet to-get it out of my head and at first people were really rude about it, as you can imagine and at one point early on, I even said it was made up ... well really it even seemed so to me. I had no proof, had not connected any dots at the time and it was my dream which repeated so in a sense saying it was made up ... seemed true to me and to be honest I still hope it is just my terrible nightmares and there is no truth to it.

However since then I have started to see it everywhere, in the bible, in films, everywhere ... I have decided look even if there is only a .00005 chance I am right. I need to yell it from the roof tops because if I am correct and I kept it to myself and my whole race of people are either purged or harvested and bound well hey... why didn't I just stump up and say something?

So I have on the other thread explained and found as much evidence as I can and presented it as best I can.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

What people make of this info is up to them.


You lose my friend, you think you know the absolute truth but you don't. You have been tricked into believing the gnostic gospel mixed in with pagan lies. I would be concerned with these "entity's" visiting you distorting your mind and deceiving you into believing Jesus is Satan as i saw you mentioned in one of your post's nothing could be further from the truth. The da vinchi code is just a film its not real, although if you promote a lie for long enough it will only be a matter of time before gullible people like you believe it. Out of all your post's i think the only thing you got correct was about the catholic church and the Jesuits

My friend Jesus is the way the truth and the life. If you want the truth believe in him and he will guide you to the light.

Take a step back, get some fresh air, take some time to meet some Christians, they are not evil or bad like you try to make out... Alot of prominent Christians i know are actually strongly opposed to the NWO.

You are mixing truth with fiction and fiction with half truths which makes you seem borderline delusional. I don't know what these demons have been telling you, but you have really been messed up by them. There are no such thing as aliens ether... they are demons.

I am also curious as to why you are using Christ church earthquake to make another anti christian thread almost identical to your other one. Just stop doing this man, you are only going to suffer from it. You have been tricked... stop spreading lies trying to get people to believe your gnostic gospel and the council of nicea that has been dis proven by christian apologists and theologians countless times.

Leave these forums, and seek help from someone in the medical community or atleast a family member you are focusing far to hard and are really getting confused... you can not tell reality apart from fiction.. when this happens you will start to believe every conspricy theory out there and won't be able to tell which ones are true and which ones are not.
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by AprilSky

Many fear this and think it is a terrible thing, actually it is about time because almost all the world believed in almost the exact same religion until about two thousand years ago, that's both East and West. The introduction of Christ and the one true God has lead to mass slaughter, witch hunts etc etc, I for one will not morn it's passing.

Europeans were tricked into accepting the Jewish religion and their God at the fall of the Roman Empire and therefore the acceptance of Jews as God's chosen people. The passages in the new testament that show the Jews were against Jesus, were just put in to make the whole thing more palatable but the reality is, Jesus WAS a Jew, from the line of David and to accept him is to accept the whole bible and Jews as masters! the chosen race ... and all of that stuff.

People claim Jesus was such a wonderful peaceful teacher, somehow they manage to over look a pile of evil passages said by him ...

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; (those who refuse to accept him as lord this is)

Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

But look ...


Constantine called the Council of Nicea—the first general council of the Christian church, 325 A.D.—primarily because he feared that disputes within the church would cause disorder within the empire. The dispute in mind was Arianism, which was the belief that Jesus was a created being. The famous phrase they were disputing was, "There was when He was not." This was in reference to Jesus and was declared heretical by the council and thus resulted in the following words about Christ in the Nicene Creed: "God from true God…from the Father…not made." It was determined by the council that Christ was homoousia, meaning, one substance with the Father.

www.gotquestions.org...


You see from the above, that in 325 A.D not very long after the supposed time of Christ, many in the church itself, did not believe him to be a real being!

How the canon—the Bible as we know it—was formed.


The council that formed an undisputed decision on the canon took place at Carthage in 397, sixty years after Constantine's death. However, long before Constantine, 21 books were acknowledged by all Christians (the 4 Gospels, Acts, 13 Paul, 1 Peter, 1 John, Revelation). There were 10 disputed books (Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2-3 John, Jude, Ps-Barnabas, Hermas, Didache, Gospel of Hebrews) and several that most all considered heretical—Gospels of Peter, Thomas, Matthaias, Acts of Andrew, John, etc.

www.gotquestions.org...



So the bible itself was not written until nearly four hundred years after Christ's supposed death and we all know it has had many rewrites since then but still there are people who will try and claim it is absolute truth! As if the ELITE are somehow totally incapable of lying and manipulating the masses, these people behave like they think the bible arrived by facsimile from Heaven.

Here are examples of the elite trying really hard to show you some truth.


(it has sub text which maybe only able to be seen at U tube?)

But before I waffle on too much, I want to show you the evidence that CHRIST'S CHURCH is indeed being pulled down .... literally.

Many will claim it is just natural events and what I am about to show you is merely a coincidence ...??? I am prepared to believe in coincidence to some extent but this is really pushing it ...

Christchurch in New Zealand has suffered some terrible earthquakes of late and when they begun people on the net claimed it was an attack on Christ's-Church and that it would not stop until the Cathedral, the icon of the city and a world heritage building, lay on the ground in rubble and then they would force the people to accept a multi-denominational church in it's stead.

Well how true this is turning out to be, shortly after this ... because up until then, the almost undamaged Cathedral had stood proud and unmoved by a 7 point quake ... it was then viciously assaulted by a rough earthquake, one that effected only half the city and because of the rouge nature of it, had the impact of a 9 magnitude quake in parts of the city. … and down she came.

The town square rung out in screams of terror as the great building shock and then crashed to the ground. The whole city was in morning, it was almost unbelievable but they promised us they would repair and rebuild it ... it's huge rose window hung in there all proud and giving us some comfort until yet another attack which broke it and it fell out … I have tears in my eyes writing about this because even though I am not a fan of Christ's church, that building was our heart, our icon, the soul of our city and now it's broken!

Here are the before and after photos …

Before ..



After ...



You can see how hard the very well build building tried to stay standing but alias it is now beyond repair. It had, had many millions spend on it before the quakes to earthquake proof it so such a tragedy would never befall it but all to no avail.

Even before the doom bells had even rung out on the Cathedral, calls started to come in to rebuild it as a multi-denominational Church, to fit in with the New World

Really!!! you want to take down Christ's Church in a city called Christ-Church and rebuild it with a multi-denominational Church!!!

I kid you not ... the paper is always fill with ignorant people calling for this and I'm not sure that they won't get their own way???

www.stuff.co.nz...

There is even talk that it will have to be rebuild on at different location and if this happens, you can be sure it will not be Christ's-Church any longer.

But here's the kicker … the exact same thing has happened in Australia, in a land not known for seismic activity ...


In December 1989, Newcastle NSW experienced the first earthquake to affect significantly an urban area in Australia, resulting in the death of 13 people and extensive damage to masonry buildings.

The most important building to be severely damaged was Christ Church Cathedral which dominates the skyline of the city.

Australia lies completely within a continental plate and has not been considered as a "seismic" zone.

www.cintec.net...
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Image Cathedral ...



Is that even believable?

And how about this ..



This is a huge stupid illuminati type torch, they insulted our Cathedral with a few years back and this is how they had been promoting our city … giving pride to this silly torch, NOT the Cathedral. You note they photograph the Cathedral in such a way as to show it being totally dominated and over shadowed by this torch!

So it appears the Fall of Christ has begun and the ELITE want to mark the occasion with the fall of his Church literally … in a place of his name.

There is heaps of suspicious stuff that happened during all of this, that make it highly likely that these quakes were not natural in nature but rather elite orchestrated. Members of FEMA and high officials just happened to leave town one hour before the Cathedral fall down.

Yeah right ... like it is normal for those type of officials to be in Christchurch a sleepy hollow at the bottom of the world. The navy just happened to be doing exercises that begun that very same morning ... on the same thing … need I go on … you have all heard this sort of thing before ...

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I am curious to what your position is on (Hati) and the large earth quake there? Was this a sign from God reassuring Christians of the present time "End of Days" or maybe this was a man made earthquake.

Jewish people were God's Chosen in fact ancient writings in Egypt have recently proved the entry of the Jewish people and there exit. The writings are found in an old temple in the the Valley of The Kings and the settlement is covered back up after digging so Israel will not lay claim to the land. "That is what the Show said" The historical dates have been miss interpreted but the dates and writings in the tomb validate Biblical Time Line of the Exodus and Moses.

The New Testament Episel were written near the time of Christ Jesus by Holy Apostels who did great works in the name of Jesus but the bible was compiled many years later, bringing together the writings by the Apostles. I do believe many of the originals writings have been left out, but I think "The Good Lord" has reveled them to us, though they are not included in the New Testament. That is not to the message is different but maybe to direct.

Jesus Christ never claimed to teach anything on his behalf but was very adamant about reveling "His Teaching were not of his own but Him who sent him" that would be God The Farther.

God sent down his Holy Spirit to Jesus and made his abode / to possess him and they became one in the flesh. I am quite sure Jesus had a direct pipeline to God The Farther and could hear his voice clearly even if only he could here it.

A lot of the Jewish people did not believe Jesus there for they did not believe God any longer.

I believe Christianity is the only Religion where one has to have Faith in Gods Word to be true. Else if Jesus Christ was not raised from the dead by "God The Farther"and "by power" then there whole faith is in vain. So many other Religion imitate / follow the teachings of some profit of the past "depends on the religion".

Jesus says very clearly that Vengeance is mine, thus those who know him should leave it for him to justify and deal it out.

Jesus also gave one command and that was to Love one another. To rebuke your claim about early Christianity clearly they / the church were not acting with God but on there own. I am sure there are exceptions.

Religion can be taught and many are taught from a very early age but they never come to an understanding of God The Farther and Jesus Christ. Some never come in to God's Salvation because they do not have Communion with the Holy Spirit.

It is the Faith of Christians in Jesus which make them righteousness in Gods Eye because they believe He sent Jesus and that Jesus died for there Sins and was raised by power on the third day. They go to church for encouragement and to Glorifiy God with praise but the Salvation that comes from God to Them is through the Holy Spirit "The Promise" and they do not need to go to church to confirm there belief or faith. It is by the Holy Spirit they are taught "Jesus said when he comes he will show you all things" that is when the promise comes.

I am saddened you have so much anger in you towards God and are confused about God Will and the Churches will.

Personally I believe that all Christians have Jesus Christ at the head of there church regardless of domination and it seems that all are lacking in one thing or another. I believe Paul said to one man that he hoped he could come so they could make up for what is lacking in there faith.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:25 AM
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I dont know why your quoting the bible, specifically jesus. You must be having difficulty understanding these verses otherwise you wouldnt have quoted them, you seem to be a little confused with regard to the quran as well, islam does not accept jesus as the messiah at all
but merely a prophet. Islams messiah is their mahdi.
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:34 AM
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Actually, Islam does accept Jesus as the Messiah, just not as Christians conceive it as being.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by JeshurunAndronicus
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Actually, Islam does accept Jesus as the Messiah, just not as Christians conceive it as being.


No they don't.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Leave these forums, and seek help from someone in the medical community or at least a family member you are focusing far to hard and are really getting confused... you can not tell reality apart from fiction.. when this happens you will start to believe every conspiracy theory out there and won't be able to tell which ones are true and which ones are not.


If I am bonkers then so is every Christian on this board it blows my mind that you people can believe such utter rubbish.

Of course Jesus was not real ... he is a fable of the elite!

Have you not heard of people telling storied and manipulating people good greif all the church evil should alert you to the fact the christian church is totally evil and always has been.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by thomas007

I am saddened you have so much anger in you towards God and are confused about God Will and the Churches will.




Oh yes because God as in aliens would just have to good and kind and offering eternal paradise for nothing?

Aren't you forgetting all the murdering done by God or in his name in the old testament?



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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Koran 3:45

Behold! the angels said:
"O Mary! God giveth thee
Glad tidings of a Word
From Him: his name
Will be Christ Jesus,
The son of Mary, held in honour
In this world and the Hereafter
And of (the company of) those
Nearest to God;

Christ means Messiah

Koran 4:171
O People of the Book!
Commit no excesses
In your religion: nor say
Of God aught but the truth.
Christ Jesus the son of Mary
Was (no more than)
An apostle of God,
And His Word,
Which He bestowed on Mary,
And a Spirit proceeding
From Him: so believe
In God and His apostles.
Say not "Trinity": desist:
It will be better for you:
For God is One God:
Glory be to Him:
(Far Exalted is He) above
Having a son, To Him
Belong all things in the heavens
And on earth. And enough
Is God as a Disposer of affairs.

While I don't agree with Islam I don't like people misrepresenting other religions.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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Are you trying to tell us that muslims are waiting for jesus to return and save them as christians do?

I burnt my quran almost six months ago but im pretty sure muslims are awaiting their imam mahdi and the prophet jesus.

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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:47 AM
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I dont know why your quoting the bible, specifically jesus. You must be having difficulty understanding these verses otherwise you wouldnt have quoted them,


Im quoting Jesus to show you that your idea that "Islam is satanic" is invalid because

a) The Koran warns that Satan is the enemy.
b) Jesus said that Satan will not fight himself.

Putting one and one together, its obvious what you are saying about Islam being satanic does not make sense from a biblical point of view (Luke 11:18 and Mark 3:23)




you seem to be a little confused with regard to the qoran as well, islam does not accept jesus as the messiah at all but merely a prophet. Islams messiah is their mahdi.


Wrong. The mahdi is another end times character who is NOT the messiah. Youre the one who is confused.

Islam makes it clear that Jesus is THE islamic messiah. Why do you suppose his title is al-masih ("messiah" in Arabic)

(And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah). -3.45

en.wikipedia.org...



The Qur'an states Jesus the Son of Mary (Arabic: Isa ibn Maryum) was the Messiah or "Prophet" sent to the Jews,[Qur'an 3:45] and Muslims believe Jesus is alive in Heaven and will return to Earth to defeat the Antichrist


Deny this all you want, but the facts are not going to change just because you dont accept it.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:51 AM
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Whiles an entire congregation of people may lead themselves into evil, individually Christianity is not so (or should not be). We all know when people get together they can commit horrific things.

Now about the Old Testament, such evil is the effect of a people's transgression. Would I like to be a part of it? No. But God's ways are past finding out, we cannot judge His actions, for He knows more than we.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:02 AM
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Yes Blah blah usual excuses ..

Make sure you bend right over when they arrive won't you and don't forget to turn traitor on your fellow man in your rush to appease your god ...

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:15 AM
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Make sure you bend right over when they arrive won't you and don't forget to turn traitor on your fellow man in your rush to appease your god ...

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.


*Sigh*
I'll put it this way.
The Creator made us all and gave us free will. Those who use their free will to rebel against Him end up in trouble.
Kinda like how someone running a bulb factory seperates the defective bulbs from the good ones and chucks them in the trash.

Now, I know bulbs are not sentient, so comparing sentient humans with non-sentient bulbs is perhaps not the best example. So I will extend this analogy a little further.

Now imagine, you are running this bulb factory....and hypothetically you give the bulbs free will to choose to work right and still, some do not. So then, do the bulbs that choose to not work right get to complain when you collect them all and throw them in the trash can?



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:20 AM
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Islam is satanic they teach when you die you will go to paradise and have sex with multiple wives in some giant orgy...



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:22 AM
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More nonsense ... anyone who agrees with burning people is just sick.

That's the trouble with you Christians, you wouldn't allow people to do that to any criminal and yet propose God should?

Sickos.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:22 AM
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Scroll up and read my reply to you.
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by AprilSky
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More nonsense ... anyone who agrees with burning people is just sick.

That's the trouble with you Christians, you wouldn't allow people to do that to any criminal and yet propose God should?

Sickos.



Wow... your true colors are really showing now...

Im starting to wonder if you even believe half of those things you posted and are just finding anything you can to discredit Christianity because of your hatred for our faith.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by AprilSky
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More nonsense ... anyone who agrees with burning people is just sick.

That's the trouble with you Christians, you wouldn't allow people to do that to any criminal and yet propose God should?

Sickos.



Wow... your true colors are really showing now...

Im starting to wonder if you even believe half of those things you posted and are just finding anything you can to discredit Christianity because of your hatred for our faith.




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