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New Bill in House - Ask Citizens to volunterily contribute to pay national debt

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posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 05:35 AM
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Now Congress wants you to be a patriotic citizen and volunteer to pay down the debt. H.R. 2411, entitled “Reduce America’s Debt Now Act of 2011” and introduced on July 6, would “provide for an employee election on Form W-4 to have amounts deducted and withheld from wages to be used to reduce the public debt.” The legislation was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means.

Inforwars.com source

So...who here would willingly pay extra tax to pay off the national debt?

Honestly, I find the whole idea laughable. The sheer arrogance of the government..
'Ah..yeah..we blew A *LOT* of money on useless things...
Ineffective government agencies..
hmmm...this could turn into a very long list, so will stop now.


An Australian myself, but can imagine the labor party asking for such a thing (A few short years ago we had a surplus, now billions of dollars of debt).
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posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 05:41 AM
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Ha Ha Ha....that is rich. Yeah don't hold your breath while waiting for my contribution.

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posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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Maybe the CIA should dip into their coc aine profits a little.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 05:47 AM
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They can count me out. I didn't make the debt. Give me one good reason why I should help them.

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posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 05:52 AM
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What!

Ask nicely first..
then take it anyway later.

Don't think your money in the bank is safe either.
Pull out all your cash every payday.

Your money is safer in your mattress with the bed-bugs than with a banker.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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While I wouldn't want to participate in this, I have to admit it IS a good idea.

It's a voluntary program that will not affect you at all unless you decide to participate, so if someone wants to kick in a few bucks a week that's their choice.

However, there is one tiny part of me a little paranoid that this might be the first step in making this a mandatory payment...



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 05:57 AM
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A mandatory payment? Never.
Many, many people would be pissed beyond belief and I could see that creating a giant s**tstorm.
People are stressed out about their money enough as it is, they don't need the government rubbing salt in their wounds even more.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 05:59 AM
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I expect every government loving liberal to step up and contribute; if they refuse then they need to admit that they only want to spend other people's money.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:00 AM
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The MILLIONAIRES can sit there and pay the debt. Not like they have much use for their money anyways. Other than drugs and million dollar cars.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:00 AM
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Thats hilarious.

"Dear Citizen,

We've mismanaged the funds we extract at gun point and built a debt so large that it is impossible to pay back. Therefore, please provide a voluntary donation to allow us to service the interest for a little longer. Your betters need extra time to get their real assets in safe place.

Yours Sincerely, Uncle Sam. "

Whats even funnier is that some will pay up. ROFL.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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Did the person who thought up this plan even crunch the numbers?

The current debt per taxpayer in the US is $129,649 www.usdebtclock.org...

So now we have established that this won't work financially, lets examine the principle behind it.

I am currently being forced to pay for reckless spending, debt, war, a welfare state and corporatism through my mandatory taxes. But no, that isn't enough. I need to be patriotic and help with the problem.

I swear to Christ that we are being turning into mindless drones. Idiocracy anyone?



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Wow, they just never stop trying to SCREW the citizens of this country, eh?

Grossly mismanage our money and now ask for MORE of our HARD-EARNED money? YEA RIGHT!!!

Surely the money contributed will go directly into some scumbags pocket for certain.

No way scammers.



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posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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There already is mandatory payments.
This sum is removed before you collect your pay. Additional funds are also removed any time you use that money.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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ANY politican that votes for this should be given
an immediate, full range drug test....they would have to be
on crack or something to even think that this is a good idea.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:11 AM
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end the wars
problem solved



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:15 AM
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Great idea.
It's a "put you money where your mouth is" law.

For all those people that state that there has to be a rise in taxes, this is perfect! Now they actually will be able to pay more.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:16 AM
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well if you really desire freedom...

I hear border protection is a joke....

Imagine the world headlines when convoys of Americans are driving through the mexican border and asking for political asylum from their oppressive regime?



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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Well, I have to wonder what we as citizens would get out of this. If I needed to take a loan from a bank for $129,000.00 to pay off a debt, the bank would make interest on said loan until it was payed off. They would have the rights to any/all property of mine if I defaulted on said debt, as well as any monies I make in the present/future until the debt was paid off.

What security would the government offer the people that help to pay off their debt? Would they have a greater say in the way the governments run. Would there opinion/voice matter more than the others that didn't help out? Maybe when they vote it counts as 5 votes instead of 1?


I wouldn't mind helping to pay off the debt, if I got a return on my investment. Problem is, they are not offering anything up to make this deal. And as we all know, they don't have a good credit rating, so, what would be the point??

If they did, there would be a lot of people that would help out. I think it would be cool to have a piece of paper that says I own a piece of the U.S.A. They could probably make a killing selling a certificate of ownership for $5.
Somthing for the final space shuttle launch that is meaningful and sell that for $5-10 bucks.


Sorry, this post is going all over the place. But, I guess my point is that they are not thinking out of the box. There are plenty of legal ways that they could get the people to help out. But they are asking all wrong. And all it does is PI$$ us off more.

"we want your help, but we aren't gonna even make the gesture of asking you nicely. And you definately aren't getting anything in return."


Just some ramblings.....



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 07:04 AM
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Ok.....if I was an American citizen and I was asked to volunteer to pay towards the national debt I would DEMAND a full and thorough audit of the Federal Reserve Bank, the White House, Pentagon and the industrial military machine. ALL of it !!!!!

First stop...Michelle Obozo go get a real job and stop spending USD$500,000 of the tax payers money for holidays in Spain.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 08:15 AM
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I think it is a great idea.
What better way to help your country?
I might even give a few dollars every week or so toward it and I am broke.

A friend and I were discussing this yesterday...if everyone gave a dollar, so many of the worlds problems can be solved.

If just a little bit was offered from everyone we would have no problems in the world, but we have so many hoarders and skinflints who will not offer a cup of water to someone dying of thirst because one day they might need that cup of water.

If we rounded up all these greedy, selfish nere-do-wells and shot them, I think everything would be ok then.



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